From: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>
Cc: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>, Neil Brown <neilb@suse.de>,
Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>,
Sage Weil <sage@inktank.com>, Mark Fasheh <mfasheh@suse.com>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: Use GFP_KERNEL allocation for the page cache in page_cache_read
Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2015 08:43:54 +1100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150326214354.GG28129@dastard> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150326095302.GA15257@dhcp22.suse.cz>
On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 10:53:02AM +0100, Michal Hocko wrote:
> On Fri 20-03-15 14:48:20, Dave Chinner wrote:
> > On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 01:44:41PM +0100, Michal Hocko wrote:
> [...]
> > > Or did I miss your point? Are you concerned about some fs overloading
> > > filemap_fault and do some locking before delegating to filemap_fault?
> >
> > The latter:
> >
> > https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/dgc/linux-xfs.git/commit/?h=xfs-mmap-lock&id=de0e8c20ba3a65b0f15040aabbefdc1999876e6b
>
> Hmm. I am completely unfamiliar with the xfs code but my reading of
> 964aa8d9e4d3..723cac484733 is that the newly introduced lock should be
> OK from the reclaim recursion POV. It protects against truncate and
> punch hole, right? Or are there any internal paths which I am missing
> and would cause problems if we do GFP_FS with XFS_MMAPLOCK_SHARED held?
It might be OK, but you're only looking at the example I gave you,
not the fundamental issue it demonstrates. That is: filesystems may
have *internal dependencies that are unknown to the page cache or mm
subsystem*. Hence the page cache or mm allocations cannot
arbitrarily ignore allocation constraints the filesystem assigns to
mapping operations....
Cheers,
Dave.
--
Dave Chinner
david@fromorbit.com
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From: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>
Cc: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>, Neil Brown <neilb@suse.de>,
Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>,
Sage Weil <sage@inktank.com>, Mark Fasheh <mfasheh@suse.com>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: Use GFP_KERNEL allocation for the page cache in page_cache_read
Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2015 08:43:54 +1100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150326214354.GG28129@dastard> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150326095302.GA15257@dhcp22.suse.cz>
On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 10:53:02AM +0100, Michal Hocko wrote:
> On Fri 20-03-15 14:48:20, Dave Chinner wrote:
> > On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 01:44:41PM +0100, Michal Hocko wrote:
> [...]
> > > Or did I miss your point? Are you concerned about some fs overloading
> > > filemap_fault and do some locking before delegating to filemap_fault?
> >
> > The latter:
> >
> > https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/dgc/linux-xfs.git/commit/?h=xfs-mmap-lock&id=de0e8c20ba3a65b0f15040aabbefdc1999876e6b
>
> Hmm. I am completely unfamiliar with the xfs code but my reading of
> 964aa8d9e4d3..723cac484733 is that the newly introduced lock should be
> OK from the reclaim recursion POV. It protects against truncate and
> punch hole, right? Or are there any internal paths which I am missing
> and would cause problems if we do GFP_FS with XFS_MMAPLOCK_SHARED held?
It might be OK, but you're only looking at the example I gave you,
not the fundamental issue it demonstrates. That is: filesystems may
have *internal dependencies that are unknown to the page cache or mm
subsystem*. Hence the page cache or mm allocations cannot
arbitrarily ignore allocation constraints the filesystem assigns to
mapping operations....
Cheers,
Dave.
--
Dave Chinner
david@fromorbit.com
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-03-26 21:44 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-03-18 14:09 [PATCH] mm: Use GFP_KERNEL allocation for the page cache in page_cache_read Michal Hocko
2015-03-18 14:09 ` Michal Hocko
2015-03-18 14:32 ` Rik van Riel
2015-03-18 14:32 ` Rik van Riel
2015-03-18 14:37 ` Michal Hocko
2015-03-18 14:37 ` Michal Hocko
2015-03-18 14:38 ` Mel Gorman
2015-03-18 14:38 ` Mel Gorman
2015-03-18 14:43 ` Michal Hocko
2015-03-18 14:43 ` Michal Hocko
2015-03-18 14:44 ` Rik van Riel
2015-03-18 14:44 ` Rik van Riel
2015-03-18 14:55 ` Michal Hocko
2015-03-18 14:55 ` Michal Hocko
2015-03-19 7:14 ` Dave Chinner
2015-03-19 7:14 ` Dave Chinner
2015-03-19 11:11 ` [PATCH] mm: Use GFP_KERNEL allocation for the page cache inpage_cache_read Tetsuo Handa
2015-03-19 11:11 ` Tetsuo Handa
2015-03-19 12:44 ` [PATCH] mm: Use GFP_KERNEL allocation for the page cache in page_cache_read Michal Hocko
2015-03-19 12:44 ` Michal Hocko
2015-03-20 3:48 ` Dave Chinner
2015-03-20 3:48 ` Dave Chinner
2015-03-20 13:14 ` Michal Hocko
2015-03-20 13:14 ` Michal Hocko
2015-03-20 22:51 ` Dave Chinner
2015-03-20 22:51 ` Dave Chinner
2015-03-23 13:02 ` Michal Hocko
2015-03-23 13:02 ` Michal Hocko
2015-03-26 9:53 ` Michal Hocko
2015-03-26 9:53 ` Michal Hocko
2015-03-26 21:43 ` Dave Chinner [this message]
2015-03-26 21:43 ` Dave Chinner
2015-03-30 8:22 ` Michal Hocko
2015-03-30 8:22 ` Michal Hocko
2015-03-31 21:46 ` Dave Chinner
2015-03-31 21:46 ` Dave Chinner
2015-04-07 12:16 ` Michal Hocko
2015-04-07 12:16 ` Michal Hocko
2015-03-18 15:45 ` Michal Hocko
2015-03-18 15:45 ` Michal Hocko
2015-03-18 21:38 ` NeilBrown
2015-03-19 13:55 ` Michal Hocko
2015-03-19 13:55 ` Michal Hocko
2015-03-19 14:27 ` Michal Hocko
2015-03-19 14:27 ` Michal Hocko
2015-03-20 3:57 ` Dave Chinner
2015-03-20 3:57 ` Dave Chinner
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