Re: Interacting with coherent memory on external devices

["Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>]

On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 09:12:38AM -0500, Christoph Lameter wrote:
> On Wed, 22 Apr 2015, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> 
> > Agreed, the use case that Jerome is thinking of differs from yours.
> > You would not (and should not) tolerate things like page faults because
> > it would destroy your worst-case response times.  I believe that Jerome
> > is more interested in throughput with minimal change to existing code.
> 
> As far as I know Jerome is talkeing about HPC loads and high performance
> GPU processing. This is the same use case.

The difference is sensitivity to latency.  You have latency-sensitive
HPC workloads, and Jerome is talking about HPC workloads that need
high throughput, but are insensitive to latency.

> > Let's suppose that you and Jerome were using GPGPU hardware that had
> > 32,768 hardware threads.  You would want very close to 100% of the full
> > throughput out of the hardware with pretty much zero unnecessary latency.
> > In contrast, Jerome might be OK with (say) 20,000 threads worth of
> > throughput with the occasional latency hiccup.
> >
> > And yes, support for both use cases is needed.
> 
> What you are proposing for High Performacne Computing is reducing the
> performance these guys trying to get. You cannot sell someone a Volkswagen
> if he needs the Ferrari.

You do need the low-latency Ferrari.  But others are best served by a
high-throughput freight train.

							Thanx, Paul

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