From: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
To: Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>, Jerome Glisse <j.glisse@gmail.com>
Cc: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
jglisse@redhat.com, mgorman@suse.de, aarcange@redhat.com,
airlied@redhat.com, benh@kernel.crashing.org,
aneesh.kumar@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
Cameron Buschardt <cabuschardt@nvidia.com>,
Mark Hairgrove <mhairgrove@nvidia.com>,
Geoffrey Gerfin <ggerfin@nvidia.com>,
John McKenna <jmckenna@nvidia.com>,
akpm@linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: Interacting with coherent memory on external devices
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2015 12:04:04 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <553917F4.4080300@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.11.1504211942040.6294@gentwo.org>
On 04/21/2015 08:50 PM, Christoph Lameter wrote:
> On Tue, 21 Apr 2015, Jerome Glisse wrote:
>> So big use case here, let say you have an application that rely on a
>> scientific library that do matrix computation. Your application simply
>> use malloc and give pointer to this scientific library. Now let say
>> the good folks working on this scientific library wants to leverage
>> the GPU, they could do it by allocating GPU memory through GPU specific
>> API and copy data in and out. For matrix that can be easy enough, but
>> still inefficient. What you really want is the GPU directly accessing
>> this malloced chunk of memory, eventualy migrating it to device memory
>> while performing the computation and migrating it back to system memory
>> once done. Which means that you do not want some kind of filesystem or
>> anything like that.
>
> With a filesystem the migration can be controlled by the application.
Which is absolutely the wrong thing to do when using the "GPU"
(or whatever co-processor it is) transparently from libraries,
without the applications having to know about it.
Your use case is legitimate, but so is this other case.
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From: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
To: Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>, Jerome Glisse <j.glisse@gmail.com>
Cc: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
jglisse@redhat.com, mgorman@suse.de, aarcange@redhat.com,
airlied@redhat.com, benh@kernel.crashing.org,
aneesh.kumar@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
Cameron Buschardt <cabuschardt@nvidia.com>,
Mark Hairgrove <mhairgrove@nvidia.com>,
Geoffrey Gerfin <ggerfin@nvidia.com>,
John McKenna <jmckenna@nvidia.com>,
akpm@linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: Interacting with coherent memory on external devices
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2015 12:04:04 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <553917F4.4080300@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.11.1504211942040.6294@gentwo.org>
On 04/21/2015 08:50 PM, Christoph Lameter wrote:
> On Tue, 21 Apr 2015, Jerome Glisse wrote:
>> So big use case here, let say you have an application that rely on a
>> scientific library that do matrix computation. Your application simply
>> use malloc and give pointer to this scientific library. Now let say
>> the good folks working on this scientific library wants to leverage
>> the GPU, they could do it by allocating GPU memory through GPU specific
>> API and copy data in and out. For matrix that can be easy enough, but
>> still inefficient. What you really want is the GPU directly accessing
>> this malloced chunk of memory, eventualy migrating it to device memory
>> while performing the computation and migrating it back to system memory
>> once done. Which means that you do not want some kind of filesystem or
>> anything like that.
>
> With a filesystem the migration can be controlled by the application.
Which is absolutely the wrong thing to do when using the "GPU"
(or whatever co-processor it is) transparently from libraries,
without the applications having to know about it.
Your use case is legitimate, but so is this other case.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-04-23 16:04 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 193+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-04-21 21:44 Interacting with coherent memory on external devices Paul E. McKenney
2015-04-21 21:44 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-04-21 23:46 ` Jerome Glisse
2015-04-21 23:46 ` Jerome Glisse
2015-04-22 0:36 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-04-22 0:36 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-04-22 12:42 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-04-22 12:42 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-04-21 23:49 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-04-21 23:49 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-04-22 0:05 ` Jerome Glisse
2015-04-22 0:05 ` Jerome Glisse
2015-04-22 0:50 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-04-22 0:50 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-04-22 1:01 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-04-22 1:01 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-04-22 13:35 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-04-22 13:35 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-04-22 13:18 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-04-22 13:18 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-04-22 16:16 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-04-22 16:16 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-04-22 17:07 ` Jerome Glisse
2015-04-22 17:07 ` Jerome Glisse
2015-04-22 18:17 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-04-22 18:17 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-04-22 18:52 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-04-22 18:52 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-04-23 14:12 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-04-23 14:12 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-04-23 19:24 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-04-23 19:24 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-04-24 14:01 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-04-24 14:01 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-04-24 14:13 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-04-24 14:13 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-04-24 15:53 ` Rik van Riel
2015-04-24 15:53 ` Rik van Riel
2015-04-23 2:36 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-04-23 2:36 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-04-23 14:10 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-04-23 14:10 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-04-23 15:42 ` Jerome Glisse
2015-04-23 15:42 ` Jerome Glisse
2015-04-24 14:04 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-04-24 14:04 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-04-23 22:29 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-04-23 22:29 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-04-23 2:30 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-04-23 2:30 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-04-23 14:25 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-04-23 14:25 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-04-23 15:25 ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2015-04-23 19:33 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-04-23 19:33 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-04-24 14:12 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-04-24 14:12 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-04-24 14:57 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-04-24 14:57 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-04-24 15:09 ` Jerome Glisse
2015-04-24 15:09 ` Jerome Glisse
2015-04-25 11:20 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-04-25 11:20 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-04-24 15:52 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-04-24 15:52 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-04-23 22:37 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-04-23 22:37 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-04-24 14:09 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-04-24 14:09 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-04-23 16:04 ` Rik van Riel [this message]
2015-04-23 16:04 ` Rik van Riel
2015-04-22 0:42 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-04-22 0:42 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-04-22 0:57 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-04-22 0:57 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-04-22 1:04 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-04-22 1:04 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-04-22 15:25 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-04-22 15:25 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-04-22 16:31 ` Jerome Glisse
2015-04-22 16:31 ` Jerome Glisse
2015-04-22 17:14 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-04-22 17:14 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-04-22 19:07 ` Jerome Glisse
2015-04-22 19:07 ` Jerome Glisse
2015-04-23 2:34 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-04-23 2:34 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-04-23 14:38 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-04-23 14:38 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-04-23 16:11 ` Jerome Glisse
2015-04-23 16:11 ` Jerome Glisse
2015-04-24 14:29 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-04-24 14:29 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-04-24 15:08 ` Jerome Glisse
2015-04-24 15:08 ` Jerome Glisse
2015-04-24 16:03 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-04-24 16:03 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-04-24 16:43 ` Jerome Glisse
2015-04-24 16:43 ` Jerome Glisse
2015-04-24 16:58 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-04-24 16:58 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-04-24 17:19 ` Jerome Glisse
2015-04-24 17:19 ` Jerome Glisse
2015-04-24 18:56 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-04-24 18:56 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-04-24 19:29 ` Jerome Glisse
2015-04-24 19:29 ` Jerome Glisse
2015-04-24 20:00 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-04-24 20:00 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-04-24 20:32 ` Jerome Glisse
2015-04-24 20:32 ` Jerome Glisse
2015-04-25 11:46 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-04-25 11:46 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-04-27 15:08 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-04-27 15:08 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-04-27 15:47 ` Jerome Glisse
2015-04-27 15:47 ` Jerome Glisse
2015-04-27 16:17 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-04-27 16:17 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-04-27 16:29 ` Rik van Riel
2015-04-27 16:29 ` Rik van Riel
2015-04-27 16:48 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-04-27 16:48 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-04-27 23:54 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-04-27 23:54 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-05-13 14:10 ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-05-13 14:10 ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-05-13 23:38 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-05-13 23:38 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-05-14 7:39 ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-05-14 7:39 ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-05-14 7:51 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-05-14 7:51 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-05-28 18:18 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-05-28 18:18 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-04-27 16:43 ` Jerome Glisse
2015-04-27 16:43 ` Jerome Glisse
2015-04-27 16:51 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-04-27 16:51 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-04-27 17:21 ` Jerome Glisse
2015-04-27 17:21 ` Jerome Glisse
2015-04-27 19:26 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-04-27 19:26 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-04-27 19:35 ` Rik van Riel
2015-04-27 19:35 ` Rik van Riel
2015-04-27 20:52 ` Jerome Glisse
2015-04-27 20:52 ` Jerome Glisse
2015-04-28 14:18 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-04-28 14:18 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-04-28 17:20 ` Jerome Glisse
2015-04-28 17:20 ` Jerome Glisse
2015-04-27 16:15 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-04-27 16:15 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-04-27 16:31 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-04-27 16:31 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-04-24 23:45 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-04-24 23:45 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-04-23 18:52 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-04-23 18:52 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-04-24 14:30 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-04-24 14:30 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-04-24 14:54 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-04-24 14:54 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-04-24 15:49 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-04-24 15:49 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-04-24 16:06 ` Rik van Riel
2015-04-24 16:06 ` Rik van Riel
2015-04-25 11:49 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-04-25 11:49 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-04-24 16:00 ` Jerome Glisse
2015-04-24 16:00 ` Jerome Glisse
2015-04-24 16:08 ` Rik van Riel
2015-04-24 16:08 ` Rik van Riel
2015-04-23 17:28 ` Rik van Riel
2015-04-23 17:28 ` Rik van Riel
2015-04-23 2:27 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-04-23 2:27 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-04-23 14:20 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-04-23 14:20 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-04-23 16:22 ` Jerome Glisse
2015-04-23 16:22 ` Jerome Glisse
2015-04-24 18:41 ` Oded Gabbay
2015-04-24 18:41 ` Oded Gabbay
2015-04-23 19:00 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-04-23 19:00 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-04-22 15:20 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-04-22 15:20 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-04-25 2:32 ` Rik van Riel
2015-04-25 2:32 ` Rik van Riel
2015-04-25 3:32 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-04-25 3:32 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-04-25 11:55 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-04-25 11:55 ` Paul E. McKenney
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