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From: Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@linaro.org>
To: rob.herring@linaro.org, Stephen Boyd <sboyd@codeaurora.org>
Cc: Rafael Wysocki <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
	arnd.bergmann@linaro.org, nm@ti.com, broonie@kernel.org,
	mike.turquette@linaro.org, linaro-kernel@lists.linaro.org,
	linux-pm@vger.kernel.org, grant.likely@linaro.org,
	olof@lixom.net, Sudeep.Holla@arm.com, devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
	viswanath.puttagunta@linaro.org, l.stach@pengutronix.de,
	thomas.petazzoni@free-electrons.com,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, ta.omasab@gmail.com,
	kesavan.abhilash@gmail.com, khilman@linaro.org,
	santosh.shilimkar@oracle.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH V4 1/3] OPP: Redefine bindings to overcome shortcomings
Date: Mon, 25 May 2015 17:29:13 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150525115913.GC23464@linux> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150521043310.GD22904@linux>

On 21-05-15, 10:03, Viresh Kumar wrote:
> On 20-05-15, 12:39, Stephen Boyd wrote:
> > On 05/19/15 19:07, Viresh Kumar wrote:
> > > On 19-05-15, 17:51, Stephen Boyd wrote:
> > >
> > >> Also I wonder if all properties should be optional? I don't have this
> > >> scenario today, but perhaps the frequencies could be encoded in fuses,
> > >> but the voltages wouldn't be and so we might want to read out the
> > >> frequencies for a fixed set of voltages. Of course, if there's nothing
> > >> in the OPP node at all, it's not very useful, so perhaps some statement
> > >> that at least one of the frequency/voltage/amperage properties should be
> > >> present.
> > > I am not sure. What we are trying to do (fill partially in DT and
> > > partially in platform), is a trick and not the right use of bindings.
> > >
> > > Ideally whatever is passed in DT should be complete by itself and
> > > doesn't require platform to tweak it (which it can't). For example,
> > > the cpufreq-dt driver will try to initialize OPPs from the DT directly
> > > and wouldn't know about the platform tweaks. That can work eventually
> > > as platform will add OPPs for the same bindings before cpufreq driver
> > > will try to do, but that's a trick.
> > >
> > > And then its all about frequency in the first place, and so marking
> > > that optional looks wrong. Probably not the right use of these
> > > bindings.
> > 
> > Ok then I won't be using these bindings on any of the new platforms I
> > have where half the data is in one place, and half in another. But for
> > some of Krait based platforms I have they should be useable.
> 
> You are not the only one, I have seen other requests (even for the
> existing bindings) to fill stuff partially in DT as they want freq to
> come from bootloader.
> 
> @Rob: What do you suggest for such platforms? Let them keep (ab)using
> old or new OPP DT bindings or create another binding to just pass on
> freq table?

Rob: Can you please comment on this one as well ? Thanks.

-- 
viresh

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: viresh.kumar@linaro.org (Viresh Kumar)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH V4 1/3] OPP: Redefine bindings to overcome shortcomings
Date: Mon, 25 May 2015 17:29:13 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150525115913.GC23464@linux> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150521043310.GD22904@linux>

On 21-05-15, 10:03, Viresh Kumar wrote:
> On 20-05-15, 12:39, Stephen Boyd wrote:
> > On 05/19/15 19:07, Viresh Kumar wrote:
> > > On 19-05-15, 17:51, Stephen Boyd wrote:
> > >
> > >> Also I wonder if all properties should be optional? I don't have this
> > >> scenario today, but perhaps the frequencies could be encoded in fuses,
> > >> but the voltages wouldn't be and so we might want to read out the
> > >> frequencies for a fixed set of voltages. Of course, if there's nothing
> > >> in the OPP node at all, it's not very useful, so perhaps some statement
> > >> that at least one of the frequency/voltage/amperage properties should be
> > >> present.
> > > I am not sure. What we are trying to do (fill partially in DT and
> > > partially in platform), is a trick and not the right use of bindings.
> > >
> > > Ideally whatever is passed in DT should be complete by itself and
> > > doesn't require platform to tweak it (which it can't). For example,
> > > the cpufreq-dt driver will try to initialize OPPs from the DT directly
> > > and wouldn't know about the platform tweaks. That can work eventually
> > > as platform will add OPPs for the same bindings before cpufreq driver
> > > will try to do, but that's a trick.
> > >
> > > And then its all about frequency in the first place, and so marking
> > > that optional looks wrong. Probably not the right use of these
> > > bindings.
> > 
> > Ok then I won't be using these bindings on any of the new platforms I
> > have where half the data is in one place, and half in another. But for
> > some of Krait based platforms I have they should be useable.
> 
> You are not the only one, I have seen other requests (even for the
> existing bindings) to fill stuff partially in DT as they want freq to
> come from bootloader.
> 
> @Rob: What do you suggest for such platforms? Let them keep (ab)using
> old or new OPP DT bindings or create another binding to just pass on
> freq table?

Rob: Can you please comment on this one as well ? Thanks.

-- 
viresh

  reply	other threads:[~2015-05-25 11:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 124+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-04-30 12:07 [PATCH V4 0/3] OPP: Introduce OPP (V2) bindings Viresh Kumar
2015-04-30 12:07 ` Viresh Kumar
     [not found] ` <cover.1430394884.git.viresh.kumar-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2015-04-30 12:07   ` [PATCH V4 1/3] OPP: Redefine bindings to overcome shortcomings Viresh Kumar
2015-04-30 12:07     ` Viresh Kumar
     [not found]     ` <d225e73f183e01fa0b71e4b9248b6a19a3f7d697.1430394884.git.viresh.kumar-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-04 12:12       ` Mark Brown
2015-05-04 12:12         ` Mark Brown
2015-05-05 10:48         ` Viresh Kumar
2015-05-05 10:48           ` Viresh Kumar
2015-05-05 10:57           ` Mark Brown
2015-05-05 10:57             ` Mark Brown
     [not found]             ` <20150505105714.GA22845-GFdadSzt00ze9xe1eoZjHA@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-05 11:43               ` Viresh Kumar
2015-05-05 11:43                 ` Viresh Kumar
2015-05-05 17:12                 ` Mark Brown
2015-05-05 17:12                   ` Mark Brown
2015-05-06  6:53                   ` Viresh Kumar
2015-05-06  6:53                     ` Viresh Kumar
2015-05-07  5:52                     ` Stephen Boyd
2015-05-07  5:52                       ` Stephen Boyd
2015-05-07 11:02                       ` Mark Brown
2015-05-07 11:02                         ` Mark Brown
2015-05-07 21:18                         ` Stephen Boyd
2015-05-07 21:18                           ` Stephen Boyd
2015-05-07 22:18                           ` Mark Brown
2015-05-07 22:18                             ` Mark Brown
     [not found]                             ` <20150507221842.GW22845-GFdadSzt00ze9xe1eoZjHA@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-08  6:47                               ` Viresh Kumar
2015-05-08  6:47                                 ` Viresh Kumar
2015-05-08 10:58                                 ` Mark Brown
2015-05-08 10:58                                   ` Mark Brown
2015-05-08 11:01                                   ` Viresh Kumar
2015-05-08 11:01                                     ` Viresh Kumar
2015-05-11  1:07                                 ` Nishanth Menon
2015-05-11  1:07                                   ` Nishanth Menon
2015-05-12  5:20                                   ` Viresh Kumar
2015-05-12  5:20                                     ` Viresh Kumar
2015-05-12 19:01                                     ` Michael Turquette
2015-05-12 19:01                                       ` Michael Turquette
2015-05-12 19:14                                       ` Nishanth Menon
2015-05-12 19:14                                         ` Nishanth Menon
2015-05-12 19:41                                         ` Mark Brown
2015-05-12 19:41                                           ` Mark Brown
2015-05-12 19:57                                           ` Nishanth Menon
2015-05-12 19:57                                             ` Nishanth Menon
2015-05-13 11:54                                             ` Mark Brown
2015-05-13 11:54                                               ` Mark Brown
     [not found]                                               ` <20150513115422.GQ3066-GFdadSzt00ze9xe1eoZjHA@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-13 14:24                                                 ` Nishanth Menon
2015-05-13 14:24                                                   ` Nishanth Menon
2015-05-13 15:07                                                   ` Mark Brown
2015-05-13 15:07                                                     ` Mark Brown
2015-05-13 15:43                                                     ` Nishanth Menon
2015-05-13 15:43                                                       ` Nishanth Menon
2015-05-07 12:13                       ` Viresh Kumar
2015-05-07 12:13                         ` Viresh Kumar
2015-05-07 21:30                         ` Stephen Boyd
2015-05-07 21:30                           ` Stephen Boyd
2015-05-08  6:49                           ` Viresh Kumar
2015-05-08  6:49                             ` Viresh Kumar
2015-05-11  1:02       ` Nishanth Menon
2015-05-11  1:02         ` Nishanth Menon
2015-05-12  5:16         ` Viresh Kumar
2015-05-12  5:16           ` Viresh Kumar
2015-05-12 16:04           ` Nishanth Menon
2015-05-12 16:04             ` Nishanth Menon
2015-05-13  5:05             ` Viresh Kumar
2015-05-13  5:05               ` Viresh Kumar
2015-05-13 15:00               ` Nishanth Menon
2015-05-13 15:00                 ` Nishanth Menon
2015-05-13 15:16                 ` Mark Brown
2015-05-13 15:16                   ` Mark Brown
2015-05-13 16:14                   ` Nishanth Menon
2015-05-13 16:14                     ` Nishanth Menon
2015-05-13 16:21                     ` Mark Brown
2015-05-13 16:21                       ` Mark Brown
2015-05-13 16:34                       ` Nishanth Menon
2015-05-13 16:34                         ` Nishanth Menon
2015-05-12 16:19     ` Felipe Balbi
2015-05-12 16:19       ` Felipe Balbi
2015-05-13  4:45       ` Viresh Kumar
2015-05-13  4:45         ` Viresh Kumar
2015-05-12 21:42     ` Michael Turquette
2015-05-12 21:42       ` Michael Turquette
2015-05-13  8:55       ` Viresh Kumar
2015-05-13  8:55         ` Viresh Kumar
2015-05-13 11:03         ` Mark Brown
2015-05-13 11:03           ` Mark Brown
2015-05-14  0:32           ` Michael Turquette
2015-05-14  0:32             ` Michael Turquette
     [not found]             ` <CAKohpokeKtcJdrBcPZBBPR2zfJgpvuM_=wRaX5q1Uto2qx1oHQ@mail.gmail.com>
2015-05-15 14:15               ` Viresh Kumar
2015-05-15 14:15                 ` Viresh Kumar
2015-05-15 15:43                 ` Nishanth Menon
2015-05-15 15:43                   ` Nishanth Menon
2015-05-15 17:27             ` Rob Herring
2015-05-15 17:27               ` Rob Herring
2015-05-21  6:02         ` Nishanth Menon
2015-05-21  6:02           ` Nishanth Menon
2015-05-22 14:04           ` Viresh Kumar
2015-05-22 14:04             ` Viresh Kumar
2015-05-22 16:04             ` Rob Herring
2015-05-22 16:04               ` Rob Herring
2015-05-22 17:42               ` Nishanth Menon
2015-05-22 17:42                 ` Nishanth Menon
2015-05-26  5:25                 ` Viresh Kumar
2015-05-26  5:25                   ` Viresh Kumar
2015-05-20  0:51     ` Stephen Boyd
2015-05-20  0:51       ` Stephen Boyd
2015-05-20  2:07       ` Viresh Kumar
2015-05-20  2:07         ` Viresh Kumar
2015-05-20 19:39         ` Stephen Boyd
2015-05-20 19:39           ` Stephen Boyd
2015-05-21  4:33           ` Viresh Kumar
2015-05-21  4:33             ` Viresh Kumar
2015-05-25 11:59             ` Viresh Kumar [this message]
2015-05-25 11:59               ` Viresh Kumar
2015-04-30 12:08 ` [PATCH V4 2/3] OPP: Allow multiple OPP tables to be passed via DT Viresh Kumar
2015-04-30 12:08   ` Viresh Kumar
2015-05-12 16:09   ` Nishanth Menon
2015-05-12 16:09     ` Nishanth Menon
2015-05-13  4:41     ` Viresh Kumar
2015-05-13  4:41       ` Viresh Kumar
2015-05-20  0:52   ` Stephen Boyd
2015-05-20  0:52     ` Stephen Boyd
2015-04-30 12:08 ` [PATCH V4 3/3] OPP: Add 'opp-next' in operating-points-v2 bindings Viresh Kumar
2015-04-30 12:08   ` Viresh Kumar
2015-05-12 21:47   ` Michael Turquette
2015-05-12 21:47     ` Michael Turquette

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