From: Darren Hart <dvhart-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
To: Thomas Gleixner <tglx-hfZtesqFncYOwBW4kG4KsQ@public.gmane.org>
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Subject: Re: Next round: revised futex(2) man page for review
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 05:45:15 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150818124515.GA13787@vmdeb7> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.11.1508200031220.3873@nanos>
On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 12:40:46AM +0200, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> On Wed, 5 Aug 2015, Darren Hart wrote:
> > On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 02:07:15PM +0200, Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) wrote:
> > > .\" FIXME XXX ===== Start of adapted Hart/Guniguntala text =====
> > > .\" The following text is drawn from the Hart/Guniguntala paper
> > > .\" (listed in SEE ALSO), but I have reworded some pieces
> > > .\" significantly. Please check it.
> > >
> > > The PI futex operations described below differ from the other
> > > futex operations in that they impose policy on the use of the
> > > value of the futex word:
> > >
> > > * If the lock is not acquired, the futex word's value shall be
> > > 0.
> > >
> > > * If the lock is acquired, the futex word's value shall be the
> > > thread ID (TID; see gettid(2)) of the owning thread.
> > >
> > > * If the lock is owned and there are threads contending for the
> > > lock, then the FUTEX_WAITERS bit shall be set in the futex
> > > word's value; in other words, this value is:
> > >
> > > FUTEX_WAITERS | TID
> > >
> > >
> > > Note that a PI futex word never just has the value FUTEX_WAITERS,
> > > which is a permissible state for non-PI futexes.
> >
> > The second clause is inappropriate. I don't know if that was yours or
> > mine, but non-PI futexes do not have a kernel defined value policy, so
> > ==FUTEX_WAITERS cannot be a "permissible state" as any value is
> > permissible for non-PI futexes, and none have a kernel defined state.
>
> Depends. If the regular futex is configured as robust, then we have a
> kernel defined value policy as well.
Indeed, thanks for catching that.
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Darren Hart
Intel Open Source Technology Center
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From: Darren Hart <dvhart@infradead.org>
To: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Cc: "Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)" <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>,
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Subject: Re: Next round: revised futex(2) man page for review
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 05:45:15 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150818124515.GA13787@vmdeb7> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.11.1508200031220.3873@nanos>
On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 12:40:46AM +0200, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> On Wed, 5 Aug 2015, Darren Hart wrote:
> > On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 02:07:15PM +0200, Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) wrote:
> > > .\" FIXME XXX ===== Start of adapted Hart/Guniguntala text =====
> > > .\" The following text is drawn from the Hart/Guniguntala paper
> > > .\" (listed in SEE ALSO), but I have reworded some pieces
> > > .\" significantly. Please check it.
> > >
> > > The PI futex operations described below differ from the other
> > > futex operations in that they impose policy on the use of the
> > > value of the futex word:
> > >
> > > * If the lock is not acquired, the futex word's value shall be
> > > 0.
> > >
> > > * If the lock is acquired, the futex word's value shall be the
> > > thread ID (TID; see gettid(2)) of the owning thread.
> > >
> > > * If the lock is owned and there are threads contending for the
> > > lock, then the FUTEX_WAITERS bit shall be set in the futex
> > > word's value; in other words, this value is:
> > >
> > > FUTEX_WAITERS | TID
> > >
> > >
> > > Note that a PI futex word never just has the value FUTEX_WAITERS,
> > > which is a permissible state for non-PI futexes.
> >
> > The second clause is inappropriate. I don't know if that was yours or
> > mine, but non-PI futexes do not have a kernel defined value policy, so
> > ==FUTEX_WAITERS cannot be a "permissible state" as any value is
> > permissible for non-PI futexes, and none have a kernel defined state.
>
> Depends. If the regular futex is configured as robust, then we have a
> kernel defined value policy as well.
Indeed, thanks for catching that.
--
Darren Hart
Intel Open Source Technology Center
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2015-07-27 12:07 Next round: revised futex(2) man page for review Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2015-07-27 12:07 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
[not found] ` <55B61EF3.7080302-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-28 20:23 ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-07-28 20:23 ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-07-28 20:45 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-07-28 20:45 ` Peter Zijlstra
[not found] ` <20150728204508.GG19282-ndre7Fmf5hadTX5a5knrm8zTDFooKrT+cvkQGrU6aU0@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-28 21:03 ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-07-28 21:03 ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-08-08 6:56 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2015-08-08 6:56 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2015-07-29 2:09 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2015-07-29 2:09 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2015-07-29 4:11 ` Darren Hart
2015-07-29 4:11 ` Darren Hart
2015-07-29 4:21 ` Darren Hart
2015-07-29 4:21 ` Darren Hart
2015-07-29 12:00 ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-07-29 12:00 ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-07-30 8:19 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2015-07-30 8:19 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2015-08-08 6:53 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2015-08-08 6:53 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
[not found] ` <55C5A787.9010806-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-19 23:17 ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-08-19 23:17 ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-08-26 6:29 ` Darren Hart
2015-08-26 6:29 ` Darren Hart
2015-10-07 8:30 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2015-10-07 8:30 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
[not found] ` <5614D836.7070506-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-08 14:36 ` Darren Hart
2015-10-08 14:36 ` Darren Hart
2015-08-05 22:21 ` Darren Hart
2015-08-08 6:57 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2015-08-08 6:57 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
[not found] ` <55C5A85F.3020202-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-24 21:47 ` Darren Hart
2015-08-24 21:47 ` Darren Hart
2015-08-19 22:40 ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-08-19 22:40 ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-08-18 12:45 ` Darren Hart [this message]
2015-08-18 12:45 ` Darren Hart
2015-10-07 9:34 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2015-10-07 9:34 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
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2015-10-08 14:46 ` Darren Hart
2015-10-08 14:46 ` Darren Hart
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2015-07-27 14:44 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
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