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From: "Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)" <mtk.manpages-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
To: Thomas Gleixner <tglx-hfZtesqFncYOwBW4kG4KsQ@public.gmane.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
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	Rusty Russell <rusty-8n+1lVoiYb80n/F98K4Iww@public.gmane.org>,
	Heinrich Schuchardt <xypron.glpk-Mmb7MZpHnFY@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: Next round: revised futex(2) man page for review
Date: Sat, 08 Aug 2015 08:56:02 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <55C5A802.7050602@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.11.1507282303290.3825@nanos>

On 07/28/2015 11:03 PM, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Jul 2015, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> 
>> On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 10:23:51PM +0200, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
>>
>>>>        FUTEX_WAKE (since Linux 2.6.0)
>>>>               This  operation  wakes at most val of the waiters that are
>>>>               waiting (e.g., inside FUTEX_WAIT) on the futex word at the
>>>>               address  uaddr.  Most commonly, val is specified as either
>>>>               1 (wake up a single waiter) or INT_MAX (wake up all  wait‐
>>>>               ers).   No  guarantee  is provided about which waiters are
>>>>               awoken (e.g., a waiter with a higher  scheduling  priority
>>>>               is  not  guaranteed to be awoken in preference to a waiter
>>>>               with a lower priority).
>>>
>>> That's only correct up to Linux 2.6.21.
>>>
>>> Since 2.6.22 we have a priority ordered wakeup. For SCHED_OTHER
>>> threads this takes the nice level into account. Threads with the same
>>> priority are woken in FIFO order.
>>
>> Maybe don't mention the effects of SCHED_OTHER, order by nice value is
>> 'wrong'.
> 
> Indeed.
>  
>> Also, this code seems to use plist, which means it won't do the right
>> thing for SCHED_DEADLINE either.
>>
>> Do we want to go fix that?
> 
> I think so.

So, no change to this piece of text then?

Cheers,

Michael


-- 
Michael Kerrisk
Linux man-pages maintainer; http://www.kernel.org/doc/man-pages/
Linux/UNIX System Programming Training: http://man7.org/training/

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From: "Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)" <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>
To: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: mtk.manpages@gmail.com, Darren Hart <dvhart@infradead.org>,
	Torvald Riegel <triegel@redhat.com>,
	"Carlos O'Donell" <carlos@redhat.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, Jakub Jelinek <jakub@redhat.com>,
	linux-man <linux-man@vger.kernel.org>,
	lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Davidlohr Bueso <dave@stgolabs.net>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Linux API <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>,
	Roland McGrath <roland@hack.frob.com>,
	Anton Blanchard <anton@samba.org>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	bill o gallmeister <bgallmeister@gmail.com>,
	Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>,
	Daniel Wagner <wagi@monom.org>, Rich Felker <dalias@libc.org>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
	bert hubert <bert.hubert@netherlabs.nl>,
	Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
	Heinrich Schuchardt <xypron.glpk@gmx.de>
Subject: Re: Next round: revised futex(2) man page for review
Date: Sat, 08 Aug 2015 08:56:02 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <55C5A802.7050602@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.11.1507282303290.3825@nanos>

On 07/28/2015 11:03 PM, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Jul 2015, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> 
>> On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 10:23:51PM +0200, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
>>
>>>>        FUTEX_WAKE (since Linux 2.6.0)
>>>>               This  operation  wakes at most val of the waiters that are
>>>>               waiting (e.g., inside FUTEX_WAIT) on the futex word at the
>>>>               address  uaddr.  Most commonly, val is specified as either
>>>>               1 (wake up a single waiter) or INT_MAX (wake up all  wait‐
>>>>               ers).   No  guarantee  is provided about which waiters are
>>>>               awoken (e.g., a waiter with a higher  scheduling  priority
>>>>               is  not  guaranteed to be awoken in preference to a waiter
>>>>               with a lower priority).
>>>
>>> That's only correct up to Linux 2.6.21.
>>>
>>> Since 2.6.22 we have a priority ordered wakeup. For SCHED_OTHER
>>> threads this takes the nice level into account. Threads with the same
>>> priority are woken in FIFO order.
>>
>> Maybe don't mention the effects of SCHED_OTHER, order by nice value is
>> 'wrong'.
> 
> Indeed.
>  
>> Also, this code seems to use plist, which means it won't do the right
>> thing for SCHED_DEADLINE either.
>>
>> Do we want to go fix that?
> 
> I think so.

So, no change to this piece of text then?

Cheers,

Michael


-- 
Michael Kerrisk
Linux man-pages maintainer; http://www.kernel.org/doc/man-pages/
Linux/UNIX System Programming Training: http://man7.org/training/

  reply	other threads:[~2015-08-08  6:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-07-27 12:07 Next round: revised futex(2) man page for review Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2015-07-27 12:07 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
     [not found] ` <55B61EF3.7080302-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-28 20:23   ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-07-28 20:23     ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-07-28 20:45     ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-07-28 20:45       ` Peter Zijlstra
     [not found]       ` <20150728204508.GG19282-ndre7Fmf5hadTX5a5knrm8zTDFooKrT+cvkQGrU6aU0@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-28 21:03         ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-07-28 21:03           ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-08-08  6:56           ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) [this message]
2015-08-08  6:56             ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2015-07-29  2:09         ` Davidlohr Bueso
2015-07-29  2:09           ` Davidlohr Bueso
2015-07-29  4:11     ` Darren Hart
2015-07-29  4:11       ` Darren Hart
2015-07-29  4:21       ` Darren Hart
2015-07-29  4:21         ` Darren Hart
2015-07-29 12:00         ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-07-29 12:00           ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-07-30  8:19         ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2015-07-30  8:19           ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2015-08-08  6:53     ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2015-08-08  6:53       ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
     [not found]       ` <55C5A787.9010806-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-19 23:17         ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-08-19 23:17           ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-08-26  6:29           ` Darren Hart
2015-08-26  6:29             ` Darren Hart
2015-10-07  8:30           ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2015-10-07  8:30             ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
     [not found]             ` <5614D836.7070506-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-08 14:36               ` Darren Hart
2015-10-08 14:36                 ` Darren Hart
2015-08-05 22:21 ` Darren Hart
2015-08-08  6:57   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2015-08-08  6:57     ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
     [not found]     ` <55C5A85F.3020202-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-24 21:47       ` Darren Hart
2015-08-24 21:47         ` Darren Hart
2015-08-19 22:40   ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-08-19 22:40     ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-08-18 12:45     ` Darren Hart
2015-08-18 12:45       ` Darren Hart
2015-10-07  9:34     ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2015-10-07  9:34       ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
     [not found]       ` <5614E71B.3040500-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-08 14:46         ` Darren Hart
2015-10-08 14:46           ` Darren Hart
     [not found] <trinity-f9a7a25f-09e9-4409-b656-0e035dfca0b5-1438006633780@msvc-mesg-gmx010>
2015-07-27 14:44 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2015-07-27 14:44   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)

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