From: Tejun Heo <tj-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
To: Jan Kara <jack-AlSwsSmVLrQ@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Jens Axboe <axboe-tSWWG44O7X1aa/9Udqfwiw@public.gmane.org>,
Tahsin Erdogan <tahsin-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
cgroups-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
Theodore Ts'o <tytso-3s7WtUTddSA@public.gmane.org>,
Nauman Rafique <nauman-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
Jan Kara <jack-IBi9RG/b67k@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH block/for-4.5-fixes] writeback: keep superblock pinned during cgroup writeback association switches
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2016 16:07:44 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160217210744.GA6479@mtj.duckdns.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160217205721.GE14140-+0h/O2h83AeN3ZZ/Hiejyg@public.gmane.org>
Hello, Jan.
On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 09:57:21PM +0100, Jan Kara wrote:
> Well, but this has the side-effect that trying to umount a filesystem while
> migrations are happening will result in EBUSY error. Without obvious reason
> why that happens. As an admin I would be rather upset when umount sometimes
> returns EBUSY without apparent reason and you have to basically implement a
> loop around umount to make it reliable. So a nack from me for this patch.
I see. Can you please point me to the s_active check during umount?
I first tried s_umount but couldn't transfer its ownership to the
worker so ended up doing s_active. I looked at how s_active is used
and couldn't find where it'd block umount. may_umount() checks
mnt_count, not s_active, so it looked like holding s_active may delay
destruction of the superblock but not prevent umount.
> Traditionally, we have used sb->s_count and sb->s_umount semaphore to pin
> superblock while writeback code was working on it. That makes umount block
> until we can safely unmount the filesystem and thus doesn't result in these
> spurious EBUSY errors. But from a quick look this can be problematic for the
> cgroup setting.
>
> Alternatively, you could either cancel all the switching work when
> unmounting filesystem or maybe just handle I_WB_SWITCH similarly to I_SYNC
> - don't grab inode reference when switching is going on, just make
> I_WB_SWITCH pin the inode and wait in evict() for it to be clear (similarly
> as we call inode_wait_for_writeback() there).
Yeah, this is an alternative but likely more involved.
Thanks.
--
tejun
WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
To: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
Cc: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>, Tahsin Erdogan <tahsin@google.com>,
cgroups@vger.kernel.org, "Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>,
Nauman Rafique <nauman@google.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Jan Kara <jack@suse.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH block/for-4.5-fixes] writeback: keep superblock pinned during cgroup writeback association switches
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2016 16:07:44 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160217210744.GA6479@mtj.duckdns.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160217205721.GE14140@quack.suse.cz>
Hello, Jan.
On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 09:57:21PM +0100, Jan Kara wrote:
> Well, but this has the side-effect that trying to umount a filesystem while
> migrations are happening will result in EBUSY error. Without obvious reason
> why that happens. As an admin I would be rather upset when umount sometimes
> returns EBUSY without apparent reason and you have to basically implement a
> loop around umount to make it reliable. So a nack from me for this patch.
I see. Can you please point me to the s_active check during umount?
I first tried s_umount but couldn't transfer its ownership to the
worker so ended up doing s_active. I looked at how s_active is used
and couldn't find where it'd block umount. may_umount() checks
mnt_count, not s_active, so it looked like holding s_active may delay
destruction of the superblock but not prevent umount.
> Traditionally, we have used sb->s_count and sb->s_umount semaphore to pin
> superblock while writeback code was working on it. That makes umount block
> until we can safely unmount the filesystem and thus doesn't result in these
> spurious EBUSY errors. But from a quick look this can be problematic for the
> cgroup setting.
>
> Alternatively, you could either cancel all the switching work when
> unmounting filesystem or maybe just handle I_WB_SWITCH similarly to I_SYNC
> - don't grab inode reference when switching is going on, just make
> I_WB_SWITCH pin the inode and wait in evict() for it to be clear (similarly
> as we call inode_wait_for_writeback() there).
Yeah, this is an alternative but likely more involved.
Thanks.
--
tejun
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-02-17 21:07 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-02-12 19:32 [BUG] cgroup writeback crash Tahsin Erdogan
[not found] ` <CAAeU0aNCq7LGODvVGRU-oU_o-6enii5ey0p1c26D1ZzYwkDc5A-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-15 21:00 ` Tejun Heo
[not found] ` <20160215210047.GN3965-piEFEHQLUPpN0TnZuCh8vA@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-16 7:56 ` Tahsin Erdogan
[not found] ` <CAAeU0aNAd1Ra6LXmWwq8row4MD_BpVHiSXOwHx07m86UWREvHw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-16 18:24 ` [PATCH block/for-4.5-fixes] writeback: keep superblock pinned during cgroup writeback association switches Tejun Heo
2016-02-16 18:24 ` Tejun Heo
[not found] ` <20160216182457.GO3741-qYNAdHglDFBN0TnZuCh8vA@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-16 18:34 ` Jens Axboe
2016-02-16 18:34 ` Jens Axboe
2016-02-17 20:57 ` Jan Kara
2016-02-17 20:57 ` Jan Kara
[not found] ` <20160217205721.GE14140-+0h/O2h83AeN3ZZ/Hiejyg@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-17 21:07 ` Tejun Heo [this message]
2016-02-17 21:07 ` Tejun Heo
2016-02-17 22:30 ` Jan Kara
2016-02-17 22:41 ` Tahsin Erdogan
[not found] ` <CAAeU0aOvSwPbLPU0=20D1RExNj8VsbB38hUnyso2L8xNSQC0XA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-17 23:02 ` Tejun Heo
2016-02-17 23:02 ` Tejun Heo
2016-02-18 9:55 ` Jan Kara
[not found] ` <20160218095538.GA4338-+0h/O2h83AeN3ZZ/Hiejyg@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-18 13:00 ` Tejun Heo
2016-02-18 13:00 ` Tejun Heo
2016-02-18 13:20 ` Jan Kara
2016-02-19 20:18 ` Al Viro
2016-02-19 20:51 ` Tejun Heo
[not found] ` <20160219205147.GN13177-qYNAdHglDFBN0TnZuCh8vA@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-19 21:58 ` Al Viro
2016-02-19 21:58 ` Al Viro
[not found] ` <20160219215811.GA17997-3bDd1+5oDREiFSDQTTA3OLVCufUGDwFn@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-19 22:15 ` Tejun Heo
2016-02-19 22:15 ` Tejun Heo
2016-02-19 22:26 ` Al Viro
[not found] ` <20160219222609.GC17997-3bDd1+5oDREiFSDQTTA3OLVCufUGDwFn@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-28 21:53 ` Tejun Heo
2016-02-28 21:53 ` Tejun Heo
[not found] ` <20160217230231.GC6479-qYNAdHglDFBN0TnZuCh8vA@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-29 20:47 ` [PATCH block/for-linus] writeback: flush inode cgroup wb switches instead of pinning super_block Tejun Heo
2016-02-29 20:47 ` Tejun Heo
[not found] ` <20160229204724.GV3965-piEFEHQLUPpN0TnZuCh8vA@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-29 20:54 ` Al Viro
2016-02-29 20:54 ` Al Viro
[not found] ` <20160229205428.GB17997-3bDd1+5oDREiFSDQTTA3OLVCufUGDwFn@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-29 20:58 ` Tejun Heo
2016-02-29 20:58 ` Tejun Heo
[not found] ` <20160229205837.GX3965-piEFEHQLUPpN0TnZuCh8vA@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-29 21:06 ` Al Viro
2016-02-29 21:06 ` Al Viro
[not found] ` <20160229210614.GC17997-3bDd1+5oDREiFSDQTTA3OLVCufUGDwFn@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-29 21:08 ` Tejun Heo
2016-02-29 21:08 ` Tejun Heo
[not found] ` <20160229210800.GY3965-piEFEHQLUPpN0TnZuCh8vA@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-29 21:21 ` Jan Kara
2016-02-29 21:21 ` Jan Kara
2016-02-29 23:28 ` [PATCH v2 " Tejun Heo
2016-02-29 23:28 ` Tejun Heo
2016-03-01 9:20 ` Jan Kara
2016-03-01 17:46 ` Jens Axboe
[not found] ` <56D5D592.2020800-tSWWG44O7X1aa/9Udqfwiw@public.gmane.org>
2016-03-01 17:50 ` Tejun Heo
2016-03-01 17:50 ` Tejun Heo
[not found] ` <CAOS58YO5vTBnM561np7gpXKGQELrT169bYqmcfvAvsquBJK5yw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-03-02 10:29 ` Jan Kara
2016-03-02 10:29 ` Jan Kara
2016-03-01 13:39 ` [PATCH " Tahsin Erdogan
2016-02-18 10:12 ` [PATCH block/for-4.5-fixes] writeback: keep superblock pinned during cgroup writeback association switches Nikolay Borisov
2016-02-18 10:12 ` Nikolay Borisov
2016-02-18 12:57 ` Tejun Heo
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