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From: Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky.work@gmail.com>
To: Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>
Cc: Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky.work@gmail.com>,
	Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky@gmail.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Joonsoo Kim <js1304@gmail.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH v3 2/5] mm/zsmalloc: remove shrinker compaction callbacks
Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2016 10:05:42 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160315010542.GB2126@swordfish> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160315005249.GB19514@bbox>

On (03/15/16 09:52), Minchan Kim wrote:
[..]
> > > I suggested to remove shrinker compaction but while I review your
> > > first patch in this thread, I thought we need upper-bound to
> > > compact zspage so background work can bail out for latency easily.
> > > IOW, the work could give up the job. In such case, we might need
> > > fall-back scheme to continue the job. And I think that could be
> > > a shrinker.
> > > 
> > > What do you think?
> > 
> > wouldn't this unnecessarily complicate the whole thing? we would
> > have
> >  a) a compaction that can be triggered by used space
> 
> Maybe, user space? :)

haha, yes!  sorry, I do quite a lot of typos.

> >  b) a compaction from zs_free() that can bail out
> >  c) a compaction triggered by the shrinker.
> > 
> > all 3 three can run simultaneously.
> 
> Yeb.
> 
> > 
> > 
> > _if_ we can keep every class below its watermark, we can reduce the
> > need of "c)".
> 
> But the problem is timing. We cannot guarantee when background
> compaction triggers while shrinker is interop with VM so we should
> do the job instantly for the system.

we can have pool's compaction-kthread that we will wake_up()
every time we need a compaction, with no dependency on workqueue
or shrinker.

	-ss

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From: Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky.work@gmail.com>
To: Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>
Cc: Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky.work@gmail.com>,
	Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky@gmail.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Joonsoo Kim <js1304@gmail.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH v3 2/5] mm/zsmalloc: remove shrinker compaction callbacks
Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2016 10:05:42 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160315010542.GB2126@swordfish> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160315005249.GB19514@bbox>

On (03/15/16 09:52), Minchan Kim wrote:
[..]
> > > I suggested to remove shrinker compaction but while I review your
> > > first patch in this thread, I thought we need upper-bound to
> > > compact zspage so background work can bail out for latency easily.
> > > IOW, the work could give up the job. In such case, we might need
> > > fall-back scheme to continue the job. And I think that could be
> > > a shrinker.
> > > 
> > > What do you think?
> > 
> > wouldn't this unnecessarily complicate the whole thing? we would
> > have
> >  a) a compaction that can be triggered by used space
> 
> Maybe, user space? :)

haha, yes!  sorry, I do quite a lot of typos.

> >  b) a compaction from zs_free() that can bail out
> >  c) a compaction triggered by the shrinker.
> > 
> > all 3 three can run simultaneously.
> 
> Yeb.
> 
> > 
> > 
> > _if_ we can keep every class below its watermark, we can reduce the
> > need of "c)".
> 
> But the problem is timing. We cannot guarantee when background
> compaction triggers while shrinker is interop with VM so we should
> do the job instantly for the system.

we can have pool's compaction-kthread that we will wake_up()
every time we need a compaction, with no dependency on workqueue
or shrinker.

	-ss

  reply	other threads:[~2016-03-15  1:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-03-03 14:45 [RFC][PATCH v3 0/5] mm/zsmalloc: rework compaction and increase density Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-03 14:45 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-03 14:45 ` [RFC][PATCH v3 1/5] mm/zsmalloc: introduce class auto-compaction Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-03 14:45   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-14  6:17   ` Minchan Kim
2016-03-14  6:17     ` Minchan Kim
2016-03-14  7:41     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-14  7:41       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-14  8:20       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-14  8:20         ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-15  0:46       ` Minchan Kim
2016-03-15  0:46         ` Minchan Kim
2016-03-15  1:33         ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-15  1:33           ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-15  6:17           ` Minchan Kim
2016-03-15  6:17             ` Minchan Kim
2016-03-17  1:29             ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-17  1:29               ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-18  1:17               ` Minchan Kim
2016-03-18  1:17                 ` Minchan Kim
2016-03-18  2:00                 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-18  2:00                   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-18  4:03                   ` Minchan Kim
2016-03-18  4:03                     ` Minchan Kim
2016-03-18  4:10                     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-18  4:10                       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-03 14:46 ` [RFC][PATCH v3 2/5] mm/zsmalloc: remove shrinker compaction callbacks Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-03 14:46   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-14  6:32   ` Minchan Kim
2016-03-14  6:32     ` Minchan Kim
2016-03-14  7:45     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-14  7:45       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-15  0:52       ` Minchan Kim
2016-03-15  0:52         ` Minchan Kim
2016-03-15  1:05         ` Sergey Senozhatsky [this message]
2016-03-15  1:05           ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-15  2:19           ` Minchan Kim
2016-03-15  2:19             ` Minchan Kim
2016-03-03 14:46 ` [RFC][PATCH v3 3/5] mm/zsmalloc: introduce zs_huge_object() Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-03 14:46   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-14  6:53   ` Minchan Kim
2016-03-14  6:53     ` Minchan Kim
2016-03-14  8:08     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-14  8:08       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-15  0:54       ` Minchan Kim
2016-03-15  0:54         ` Minchan Kim
2016-03-03 14:46 ` [RFC][PATCH v3 4/5] zram: use zs_huge_object() Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-03 14:46   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-03 14:46 ` [RFC][PATCH v3 5/5] mm/zsmalloc: reduce the number of huge classes Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-03 14:46   ` Sergey Senozhatsky

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