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From: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
To: Ross Zwisler <ross.zwisler@linux.intel.com>
Cc: Eryu Guan <eguan@redhat.com>, Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	fstests@vger.kernel.org, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	"Darrick J. Wong" <darrick.wong@oracle.com>,
	linux-nvdimm@lists.01.org, linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org,
	Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [fstests PATCH v2] xfs: add regression test for DAX mount option usage
Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2017 08:26:33 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170916222633.GA17782@dastard> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170915224227.GA9020@linux.intel.com>

On Fri, Sep 15, 2017 at 04:42:27PM -0600, Ross Zwisler wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 02:57:41PM +0800, Eryu Guan wrote:
> > Hi Ross,
> > 
> > On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 02:01:03PM -0600, Ross Zwisler wrote:
> > > This adds a regression test for the following kernel patch:
> > > 
> > >   xfs: always use DAX if mount option is used
> > > 
> > > This test will also pass with kernel v4.14-rc1 and beyond because the XFS
> > > DAX I/O mount option has been disabled (but not removed), so the
> > > "chattr -x" to turn off DAX doesn't actually do anything.
> > > 
> > > Signed-off-by: Ross Zwisler <ross.zwisler@linux.intel.com>
> > > Suggested-by: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
> > > ---
> > > 
> > > Changes since v1:
> > >  - Use perf instead of tracepoints to detect whether DAX is used. (Dan)
> > 
> > Thanks for the test! But I agreed with Dave here, it doesn't seem like a
> > good idea to depend on the kernel tracepoints in a test, but I can't
> > think of a better solution either, so I didn't get to this patch
> > earlier..
> > 
> > Before XFS disabled the ability to switch on & off per-inode DAX flag,
> > the x flag was only shown after an explicit 'chattr +x', even if XFS was
> > mounted with dax option, e.g.

Of course. lsattr reports the *on-disk inode flag state*. It does
not report whether the file is using that feature or not, just
whether the flag is set on disk.

Remember, lsattr does not report a "sum of all config states for a
feature".  It reports on disk state and on disk state only. It
follows the same semantics as other flags that have equivalent mount
options like dirsync, sync, noatime, etc.

> > # mkfs -t xfs -f /dev/ram0
> > # mount -o dax /dev/ram0 /mnt/xfs
> > # echo "test" > /mnt/xfs/testfile
> > # xfs_io -c "lsattr" /mnt/xfs/testfile
> > ---------------- /mnt/xfs/testfile
> > # xfs_io -c "chattr +x" /mnt/xfs/testfile
> > # xfs_io -c "lsattr" /mnt/xfs/testfile
> > ---------------x /mnt/xfs/testfile
> 
> XFS actually still works this way, you just don't get dax now when you chattr
> +x. :-/  But the inode flag is actually still there, gets updated by chattr
> and can be listed with lsattr.
> 
> Actually, that feels like a really bad situation to be in - Christoph & Dave,
> should we do more to remove the flag as long as it's not working?  i.e. remove
> it from the lsattr output and make "chattr +x" fail with -EINVAL or similar?

How about we concentrate on fixing the problem that led us to
disable it temporarily in XFS? Then it can be re-enabled and
problems like this go away...

Cheers,

Dave.
-- 
Dave Chinner
david@fromorbit.com

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From: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
To: Ross Zwisler <ross.zwisler@linux.intel.com>
Cc: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>, Eryu Guan <eguan@redhat.com>,
	linux-nvdimm@lists.01.org,
	"Darrick J.  Wong" <darrick.wong@oracle.com>,
	fstests@vger.kernel.org, linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
Subject: Re: [fstests PATCH v2] xfs: add regression test for DAX mount option usage
Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2017 08:26:33 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170916222633.GA17782@dastard> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170915224227.GA9020@linux.intel.com>

On Fri, Sep 15, 2017 at 04:42:27PM -0600, Ross Zwisler wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 02:57:41PM +0800, Eryu Guan wrote:
> > Hi Ross,
> > 
> > On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 02:01:03PM -0600, Ross Zwisler wrote:
> > > This adds a regression test for the following kernel patch:
> > > 
> > >   xfs: always use DAX if mount option is used
> > > 
> > > This test will also pass with kernel v4.14-rc1 and beyond because the XFS
> > > DAX I/O mount option has been disabled (but not removed), so the
> > > "chattr -x" to turn off DAX doesn't actually do anything.
> > > 
> > > Signed-off-by: Ross Zwisler <ross.zwisler@linux.intel.com>
> > > Suggested-by: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
> > > ---
> > > 
> > > Changes since v1:
> > >  - Use perf instead of tracepoints to detect whether DAX is used. (Dan)
> > 
> > Thanks for the test! But I agreed with Dave here, it doesn't seem like a
> > good idea to depend on the kernel tracepoints in a test, but I can't
> > think of a better solution either, so I didn't get to this patch
> > earlier..
> > 
> > Before XFS disabled the ability to switch on & off per-inode DAX flag,
> > the x flag was only shown after an explicit 'chattr +x', even if XFS was
> > mounted with dax option, e.g.

Of course. lsattr reports the *on-disk inode flag state*. It does
not report whether the file is using that feature or not, just
whether the flag is set on disk.

Remember, lsattr does not report a "sum of all config states for a
feature".  It reports on disk state and on disk state only. It
follows the same semantics as other flags that have equivalent mount
options like dirsync, sync, noatime, etc.

> > # mkfs -t xfs -f /dev/ram0
> > # mount -o dax /dev/ram0 /mnt/xfs
> > # echo "test" > /mnt/xfs/testfile
> > # xfs_io -c "lsattr" /mnt/xfs/testfile
> > ---------------- /mnt/xfs/testfile
> > # xfs_io -c "chattr +x" /mnt/xfs/testfile
> > # xfs_io -c "lsattr" /mnt/xfs/testfile
> > ---------------x /mnt/xfs/testfile
> 
> XFS actually still works this way, you just don't get dax now when you chattr
> +x. :-/  But the inode flag is actually still there, gets updated by chattr
> and can be listed with lsattr.
> 
> Actually, that feels like a really bad situation to be in - Christoph & Dave,
> should we do more to remove the flag as long as it's not working?  i.e. remove
> it from the lsattr output and make "chattr +x" fail with -EINVAL or similar?

How about we concentrate on fixing the problem that led us to
disable it temporarily in XFS? Then it can be re-enabled and
problems like this go away...

Cheers,

Dave.
-- 
Dave Chinner
david@fromorbit.com
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  reply	other threads:[~2017-09-16 22:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-09-07 21:08 [PATCH 0/2] xfs: some DAX fixes Ross Zwisler
2017-09-07 21:08 ` Ross Zwisler
2017-09-07 21:08 ` [PATCH 1/2] xfs: always use DAX if mount option is used Ross Zwisler
2017-09-07 21:08   ` Ross Zwisler
2017-09-08  7:20   ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-09-08  7:20     ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-09-08 15:28     ` Ross Zwisler
2017-09-08 15:28       ` Ross Zwisler
2017-09-08 21:21       ` [PATCH] xfs: add regression test for DAX mount option usage Ross Zwisler
2017-09-08 21:21         ` Ross Zwisler
2017-09-11 15:16         ` Ross Zwisler
2017-09-11 15:16           ` Ross Zwisler
2017-09-11 15:37           ` Dan Williams
2017-09-11 15:37             ` Dan Williams
2017-09-11 20:01             ` [fstests PATCH v2] " Ross Zwisler
2017-09-11 20:01               ` Ross Zwisler
2017-09-14  6:57               ` Eryu Guan
2017-09-14  6:57                 ` Eryu Guan
2017-09-15 22:42                 ` Ross Zwisler
2017-09-15 22:42                   ` Ross Zwisler
2017-09-16 22:26                   ` Dave Chinner [this message]
2017-09-16 22:26                     ` Dave Chinner
2017-09-12  6:44         ` [PATCH] " Dave Chinner
2017-09-12  6:44           ` Dave Chinner
2017-09-12 15:38           ` Ross Zwisler
2017-09-12 15:38             ` Ross Zwisler
2017-09-12 23:47             ` Dave Chinner
2017-09-12 23:47               ` Dave Chinner
2017-09-13 14:42               ` Ross Zwisler
2017-09-13 14:42                 ` Ross Zwisler
2017-09-13 22:01                 ` Dave Chinner
2017-09-13 22:01                   ` Dave Chinner
2017-09-13 22:23                   ` Dan Williams
2017-09-13 22:23                     ` Dan Williams
2017-09-13 23:34                     ` Dave Chinner
2017-09-13 23:34                       ` Dave Chinner
2017-09-14  0:28                       ` Dan Williams
2017-09-14  0:28                         ` Dan Williams
2017-09-14  0:40                         ` Dave Chinner
2017-09-14  0:40                           ` Dave Chinner
2017-09-14  1:24                           ` Dan Williams
2017-09-14  1:24                             ` Dan Williams
2017-09-14 12:19                             ` Jeff Moyer
2017-09-14 12:19                               ` Jeff Moyer
2017-09-14 13:16                               ` Johannes Thumshirn
2017-09-14 13:16                                 ` Johannes Thumshirn
2017-09-14 14:10                                 ` Dan Williams
2017-09-14 14:10                                   ` Dan Williams
2017-09-15  9:18                                   ` Johannes Thumshirn
2017-09-15  9:18                                     ` Johannes Thumshirn
2017-09-15 17:39                                     ` Dan Williams
2017-09-15 17:39                                       ` Dan Williams
2017-09-18  7:47                                       ` Johannes Thumshirn
2017-09-18  7:47                                         ` Johannes Thumshirn
2017-09-07 21:08 ` [PATCH 2/2] xfs: validate bdev support for DAX inode flag Ross Zwisler
2017-09-07 21:08   ` Ross Zwisler
2017-09-08  7:21   ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-09-08  7:21     ` Christoph Hellwig

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