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From: Andrew Morton <akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
To: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
	<bigeasy-hfZtesqFncYOwBW4kG4KsQ@public.gmane.org>
Cc: cgroups-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-mm-Bw31MaZKKs3YtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org,
	"Johannes Weiner"
	<hannes-druUgvl0LCNAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>,
	"Michal Hocko" <mhocko-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
	"Michal Koutný" <mkoutny-IBi9RG/b67k@public.gmane.org>,
	"Peter Zijlstra" <peterz-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>,
	"Thomas Gleixner" <tglx-hfZtesqFncYOwBW4kG4KsQ@public.gmane.org>,
	"Vladimir Davydov"
	<vdavydov.dev-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	"Waiman Long" <longman-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/4] mm/memcg: Address PREEMPT_RT problems instead of disabling it.
Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2022 15:21:46 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220125152146.d7e25afe3b8a6807df6fee3f@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220125164337.2071854-1-bigeasy-hfZtesqFncYOwBW4kG4KsQ@public.gmane.org>

On Tue, 25 Jan 2022 17:43:33 +0100 Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy-hfZtesqFncYOwBW4kG4KsQ@public.gmane.org> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> this series is a follow up to the initial RFC
>     https://lore.kernel.org/all/20211222114111.2206248-1-bigeasy-hfZtesqFncYOwBW4kG4KsQ@public.gmane.org
> 
> and aims to enable MEMCG for PREEMPT_RT instead of disabling it.
> 
> where it has been suggested that I should try again with memcg instead
> of simply disabling it.
> 
> Changes since the RFC:
> - cgroup.event_control / memory.soft_limit_in_bytes is disabled on
>   PREEMPT_RT. It is a deprecated v1 feature. Fixing the signal path is
>   not worth it.
> 
> - The updates to per-CPU counters are usually synchronised by disabling
>   interrupts. There are a few spots where assumption about disabled
>   interrupts are not true on PREEMPT_RT and therefore preemption is
>   disabled. This is okay since the counter are never written from
>   in_irq() context.
> 
> Patch #2 deals with the counters.
> 
> Patch #3 is a follow up to
>    https://lkml.kernel.org/r/20211214144412.447035-1-longman-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org
> 
> Patch #4 restricts the task_obj usage to !PREEMPTION kernels. Based on
> the numbers in 
>    https://lore.kernel.org/all/YdX+INO9gQje6d0S-hfZtesqFncYOwBW4kG4KsQ@public.gmane.org

This isn't a terribly useful [0/n], sorry.  It would be better to have
something self-contained which doesn't require that the reader chase
down increasingly old links and figure out what changed during
successive iterations.

> I tested them on CONFIG_PREEMPT_NONE + CONFIG_PREEMPT_RT with the
> tools/testing/selftests/cgroup/* tests. It looked good except for the
> following (which was also there before the patches):
> - test_kmem sometimes complained about:
>  not ok 2 test_kmem_memcg_deletion

Is this a new issue?

Does this happen with these patches when CONFIG_PREEMPT_RT=n?

> - test_memcontrol complained always about
>  not ok 3 test_memcg_min
>  not ok 4 test_memcg_low
>  and did not finish.

Similarly, is this caused by these patches?  Is it only triggered under
preempt_rt?

> - lockdep complains were triggered by test_core and test_freezer (both
>   had to run):

Ditto.



WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>
Cc: cgroups@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	"Johannes Weiner" <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	"Michal Hocko" <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	"Michal Koutný" <mkoutny@suse.com>,
	"Peter Zijlstra" <peterz@infradead.org>,
	"Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"Vladimir Davydov" <vdavydov.dev@gmail.com>,
	"Waiman Long" <longman@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/4] mm/memcg: Address PREEMPT_RT problems instead of disabling it.
Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2022 15:21:46 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220125152146.d7e25afe3b8a6807df6fee3f@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220125164337.2071854-1-bigeasy@linutronix.de>

On Tue, 25 Jan 2022 17:43:33 +0100 Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> this series is a follow up to the initial RFC
>     https://lore.kernel.org/all/20211222114111.2206248-1-bigeasy@linutronix.de
> 
> and aims to enable MEMCG for PREEMPT_RT instead of disabling it.
> 
> where it has been suggested that I should try again with memcg instead
> of simply disabling it.
> 
> Changes since the RFC:
> - cgroup.event_control / memory.soft_limit_in_bytes is disabled on
>   PREEMPT_RT. It is a deprecated v1 feature. Fixing the signal path is
>   not worth it.
> 
> - The updates to per-CPU counters are usually synchronised by disabling
>   interrupts. There are a few spots where assumption about disabled
>   interrupts are not true on PREEMPT_RT and therefore preemption is
>   disabled. This is okay since the counter are never written from
>   in_irq() context.
> 
> Patch #2 deals with the counters.
> 
> Patch #3 is a follow up to
>    https://lkml.kernel.org/r/20211214144412.447035-1-longman@redhat.com
> 
> Patch #4 restricts the task_obj usage to !PREEMPTION kernels. Based on
> the numbers in 
>    https://lore.kernel.org/all/YdX+INO9gQje6d0S@linutronix.de

This isn't a terribly useful [0/n], sorry.  It would be better to have
something self-contained which doesn't require that the reader chase
down increasingly old links and figure out what changed during
successive iterations.

> I tested them on CONFIG_PREEMPT_NONE + CONFIG_PREEMPT_RT with the
> tools/testing/selftests/cgroup/* tests. It looked good except for the
> following (which was also there before the patches):
> - test_kmem sometimes complained about:
>  not ok 2 test_kmem_memcg_deletion

Is this a new issue?

Does this happen with these patches when CONFIG_PREEMPT_RT=n?

> - test_memcontrol complained always about
>  not ok 3 test_memcg_min
>  not ok 4 test_memcg_low
>  and did not finish.

Similarly, is this caused by these patches?  Is it only triggered under
preempt_rt?

> - lockdep complains were triggered by test_core and test_freezer (both
>   had to run):

Ditto.




  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-01-25 23:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-01-25 16:43 [PATCH 0/4] mm/memcg: Address PREEMPT_RT problems instead of disabling it Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-01-25 16:43 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
     [not found] ` <20220125164337.2071854-1-bigeasy-hfZtesqFncYOwBW4kG4KsQ@public.gmane.org>
2022-01-25 16:43   ` [PATCH 1/4] mm/memcg: Disable threshold event handlers on PREEMPT_RT Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-01-25 16:43     ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
     [not found]     ` <20220125164337.2071854-2-bigeasy-hfZtesqFncYOwBW4kG4KsQ@public.gmane.org>
2022-01-26 14:40       ` Michal Hocko
2022-01-26 14:40         ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]         ` <YfFddqkAhd1YKqX9-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2022-01-26 14:45           ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-01-26 14:45             ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
     [not found]             ` <YfFegDwQSm9v2Qcu-hfZtesqFncYOwBW4kG4KsQ@public.gmane.org>
2022-01-26 15:04               ` Michal Koutný
2022-01-26 15:04                 ` Michal Koutný
     [not found]                 ` <20220126150455.GC2516-9OudH3eul5jcvrawFnH+a6VXKuFTiq87@public.gmane.org>
2022-01-27 13:36                   ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-01-27 13:36                     ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-01-26 15:21               ` Michal Hocko
2022-01-26 15:21                 ` Michal Hocko
2022-01-25 16:43   ` [PATCH 2/4] mm/memcg: Protect per-CPU counter by disabling preemption on PREEMPT_RT where needed Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-01-25 16:43     ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
     [not found]     ` <20220125164337.2071854-3-bigeasy-hfZtesqFncYOwBW4kG4KsQ@public.gmane.org>
2022-01-26 10:06       ` Vlastimil Babka
2022-01-26 10:06         ` Vlastimil Babka
     [not found]         ` <86eeed07-b7dc-b387-ea4d-1a4a41334fe3-AlSwsSmVLrQ@public.gmane.org>
2022-01-26 11:24           ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-01-26 11:24             ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-01-26 14:56       ` Michal Hocko
2022-01-26 14:56         ` Michal Hocko
2022-01-25 16:43   ` [PATCH 3/4] mm/memcg: Add a local_lock_t for IRQ and TASK object Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-01-25 16:43     ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
     [not found]     ` <20220125164337.2071854-4-bigeasy-hfZtesqFncYOwBW4kG4KsQ@public.gmane.org>
2022-01-26 15:20       ` Michal Hocko
2022-01-26 15:20         ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]         ` <YfFmxH1IXeegNOa9-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2022-01-27 11:53           ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-01-27 11:53             ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
     [not found]             ` <YfKHxKda7bGJmrLJ-hfZtesqFncYOwBW4kG4KsQ@public.gmane.org>
2022-02-01 12:04               ` Michal Hocko
2022-02-01 12:04                 ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]                 ` <YfkhsiWHzsyQSBfl-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2022-02-01 12:11                   ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-02-01 12:11                     ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
     [not found]                     ` <Yfkjjamj09lZn4sA-hfZtesqFncYOwBW4kG4KsQ@public.gmane.org>
2022-02-01 15:29                       ` Michal Hocko
2022-02-01 15:29                         ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]                         ` <YflR3/RuGjYuQZPH-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2022-02-03  9:54                           ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-02-03  9:54                             ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
     [not found]                             ` <YfumP3u1VCjKHE3b-hfZtesqFncYOwBW4kG4KsQ@public.gmane.org>
2022-02-03 10:09                               ` Michal Hocko
2022-02-03 10:09                                 ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]                                 ` <Yfup9THPcSIPDSoH-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2022-02-03 11:09                                   ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-02-03 11:09                                     ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-02-08 17:58                                   ` Shakeel Butt
2022-02-08 17:58                                     ` Shakeel Butt
     [not found]                                     ` <CALvZod7yovQ5OTWr=k_eiEBVb1LTRvPkbsY8joAtyigQnvBUww-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2022-02-09  9:17                                       ` Michal Hocko
2022-02-09  9:17                                         ` Michal Hocko
2022-01-26 16:57       ` Vlastimil Babka
2022-01-26 16:57         ` Vlastimil Babka
     [not found]         ` <7f4928b8-16e2-88b3-2688-1519a19653a9-AlSwsSmVLrQ@public.gmane.org>
2022-01-31 15:06           ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-01-31 15:06             ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
     [not found]             ` <Yff69slA4UTz5Q1Y-hfZtesqFncYOwBW4kG4KsQ@public.gmane.org>
2022-02-03 16:01               ` Vlastimil Babka
2022-02-03 16:01                 ` Vlastimil Babka
     [not found]                 ` <e068646f-c7f2-5876-8577-6ddf93df07d0-AlSwsSmVLrQ@public.gmane.org>
2022-02-08 17:17                   ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-02-08 17:17                     ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
     [not found]                     ` <YgKlr+sHZPayWKUP-hfZtesqFncYOwBW4kG4KsQ@public.gmane.org>
2022-02-08 17:28                       ` Michal Hocko
2022-02-08 17:28                         ` Michal Hocko
2022-02-09  1:48     ` [mm/memcg] 86895e1e85: WARNING:possible_circular_locking_dependency_detected kernel test robot
2022-02-09  1:48       ` kernel test robot
2022-01-25 16:43   ` [PATCH 4/4] mm/memcg: Allow the task_obj optimization only on non-PREEMPTIBLE kernels Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-01-25 16:43     ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-01-25 23:21   ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2022-01-25 23:21     ` [PATCH 0/4] mm/memcg: Address PREEMPT_RT problems instead of disabling it Andrew Morton
     [not found]     ` <20220125152146.d7e25afe3b8a6807df6fee3f-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2022-01-26  7:30       ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-01-26  7:30         ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior

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