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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Parav Pandit <parav@nvidia.com>
Cc: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>,
	"virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org"
	<virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org>,
	"cohuck@redhat.com" <cohuck@redhat.com>,
	"david.edmondson@oracle.com" <david.edmondson@oracle.com>,
	"sburla@marvell.com" <sburla@marvell.com>,
	Yishai Hadas <yishaih@nvidia.com>,
	Maor Gottlieb <maorg@nvidia.com>,
	"virtio-comment@lists.oasis-open.org"
	<virtio-comment@lists.oasis-open.org>,
	Shahaf Shuler <shahafs@nvidia.com>
Subject: Re: [virtio-comment] Re: [PATCH v2 0/2] transport-pci: Introduce legacy registers access using AQ
Date: Tue, 16 May 2023 17:11:38 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230516170940-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <PH0PR12MB54815633F6C88A1EFFB24500DC799@PH0PR12MB5481.namprd12.prod.outlook.com>

On Tue, May 16, 2023 at 07:35:20PM +0000, Parav Pandit wrote:
> 
> > From: virtio-comment@lists.oasis-open.org <virtio-comment@lists.oasis-
> > open.org> On Behalf Of Jason Wang
> > Sent: Monday, May 15, 2023 11:55 PM
> > > I don’t see how this is being any different than register-offset interface.
> 
> > > It bisects more things at hypervisor level that makes things hard to add #12th
> > entry.
> > >
> > >> 1) device features
> > >> 2) driver features
> > >> 3) queue address
> > >> 4) queue size
> > >> 5) queue select
> > >> 6) queue notify
> > >> 7) device status
> > >> 8) ISR status
> > >> 9) config msix
> > >> 10) queue msix
> > >> 11) device configuration space
> > >>
> > >> It focuses on the facilities instead of transport specific details like registers
> > (we
> > >> don't even need legacy registers in this case), I gives more deterministic
> > >> behavior so we don't need to care about the cross registers read/write.
> > >>
> > > 1.x has these registers at raw level and that seems fine.
> > 
> > 
> > Note that 1.x has more, the above is dumped from the section of "Legacy
> > Interfaces: A Note on PCI Device Layout".
> 
> Yeah.
> Current two commands proposal has one box to transport legacy registers that follows the legacy semantics.
> Above commands in future with legacy commands of this work will be able to work together in future anyway.

Nah, we don't need a "break randomly unless it's a full moon and you
cross your heart three times" mode. If you are going to implement
support for legacy emulation implement it in a way that either
predictably works or predictably refuses to load.

-- 
MST


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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Parav Pandit <parav@nvidia.com>
Cc: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>,
	"virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org"
	<virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org>,
	"cohuck@redhat.com" <cohuck@redhat.com>,
	"david.edmondson@oracle.com" <david.edmondson@oracle.com>,
	"sburla@marvell.com" <sburla@marvell.com>,
	Yishai Hadas <yishaih@nvidia.com>,
	Maor Gottlieb <maorg@nvidia.com>,
	"virtio-comment@lists.oasis-open.org"
	<virtio-comment@lists.oasis-open.org>,
	Shahaf Shuler <shahafs@nvidia.com>
Subject: [virtio-dev] Re: [virtio-comment] Re: [PATCH v2 0/2] transport-pci: Introduce legacy registers access using AQ
Date: Tue, 16 May 2023 17:11:38 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230516170940-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <PH0PR12MB54815633F6C88A1EFFB24500DC799@PH0PR12MB5481.namprd12.prod.outlook.com>

On Tue, May 16, 2023 at 07:35:20PM +0000, Parav Pandit wrote:
> 
> > From: virtio-comment@lists.oasis-open.org <virtio-comment@lists.oasis-
> > open.org> On Behalf Of Jason Wang
> > Sent: Monday, May 15, 2023 11:55 PM
> > > I don’t see how this is being any different than register-offset interface.
> 
> > > It bisects more things at hypervisor level that makes things hard to add #12th
> > entry.
> > >
> > >> 1) device features
> > >> 2) driver features
> > >> 3) queue address
> > >> 4) queue size
> > >> 5) queue select
> > >> 6) queue notify
> > >> 7) device status
> > >> 8) ISR status
> > >> 9) config msix
> > >> 10) queue msix
> > >> 11) device configuration space
> > >>
> > >> It focuses on the facilities instead of transport specific details like registers
> > (we
> > >> don't even need legacy registers in this case), I gives more deterministic
> > >> behavior so we don't need to care about the cross registers read/write.
> > >>
> > > 1.x has these registers at raw level and that seems fine.
> > 
> > 
> > Note that 1.x has more, the above is dumped from the section of "Legacy
> > Interfaces: A Note on PCI Device Layout".
> 
> Yeah.
> Current two commands proposal has one box to transport legacy registers that follows the legacy semantics.
> Above commands in future with legacy commands of this work will be able to work together in future anyway.

Nah, we don't need a "break randomly unless it's a full moon and you
cross your heart three times" mode. If you are going to implement
support for legacy emulation implement it in a way that either
predictably works or predictably refuses to load.

-- 
MST


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Thread overview: 252+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-05-06  0:01 [virtio-comment] [PATCH v2 0/2] transport-pci: Introduce legacy registers access using AQ Parav Pandit
2023-05-06  0:01 ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-06  0:01 ` [virtio-comment] [PATCH v2 1/2] transport-pci: Introduce legacy registers access commands Parav Pandit
2023-05-06  0:01   ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-17  5:44   ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-17  5:44     ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-17 19:32     ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-17 19:32       ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-18 19:42       ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-18 19:42         ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-18 20:51         ` Parav Pandit
2023-05-18 20:51           ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-19  1:54         ` Jason Wang
2023-05-19  1:54           ` [virtio-dev] " Jason Wang
2023-05-19  2:04           ` Parav Pandit
2023-05-19  2:04             ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-19  6:06         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-19  6:06           ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-19 16:37           ` Parav Pandit
2023-05-19 16:37             ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-21  9:16             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-21  9:16               ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-21 13:21               ` Parav Pandit
2023-05-21 13:21                 ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-21 14:33                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-21 14:33                   ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-21 14:44                   ` Parav Pandit
2023-05-21 14:44                     ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-22 20:07                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-22 20:07                       ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-22 21:05                       ` Parav Pandit
2023-05-22 21:05                         ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-22 21:34                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-22 21:34                           ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-23 17:13                           ` Parav Pandit
2023-05-23 17:13                             ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-23 18:48                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-23 18:48                               ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-23 22:22                               ` Parav Pandit
2023-05-23 22:22                                 ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-24  1:17                                 ` Jason Wang
2023-05-24  1:17                                   ` [virtio-dev] " Jason Wang
2023-05-24 10:07                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-24 10:07                                   ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-24 19:18                                   ` Parav Pandit
2023-05-24 19:18                                     ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-24 20:12                                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-24 20:12                                       ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-24 21:02                                       ` Parav Pandit
2023-05-24 21:02                                         ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-22 21:42                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-22 21:42                           ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-22  0:54                   ` Jason Wang
2023-05-22  0:54                     ` [virtio-dev] " Jason Wang
2023-05-22  2:46                     ` Parav Pandit
2023-05-22  2:46                       ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-22 19:35                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-22 19:35                       ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-06  0:01 ` [virtio-comment] [PATCH v2 2/2] transport-pci: Add legacy register access conformance section Parav Pandit
2023-05-06  0:01   ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-06  2:31 ` [virtio-comment] Re: [PATCH v2 0/2] transport-pci: Introduce legacy registers access using AQ Jason Wang
2023-05-06  2:31   ` [virtio-dev] " Jason Wang
2023-05-07 13:44   ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-07 13:44     ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-08  2:23     ` [virtio-comment] " Jason Wang
2023-05-08  2:23       ` [virtio-dev] " Jason Wang
2023-05-08 17:07       ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-08 17:07         ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-09  3:44         ` [virtio-comment] " Jason Wang
2023-05-09  3:44           ` [virtio-dev] " Jason Wang
2023-05-09  3:56           ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-09  3:56             ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-10  3:51             ` [virtio-comment] " Jason Wang
2023-05-10  3:51               ` [virtio-dev] " Jason Wang
2023-05-10  4:22               ` [virtio-comment] " Jason Wang
2023-05-10  4:22                 ` [virtio-dev] " Jason Wang
2023-05-10 16:07                 ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-10 16:07                   ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-11  7:20                   ` [virtio-comment] " Jason Wang
2023-05-11  7:20                     ` [virtio-dev] " Jason Wang
2023-05-11 11:35                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-11 11:35                       ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-15  5:08                       ` Jason Wang
2023-05-15  5:08                         ` [virtio-dev] " Jason Wang
2023-05-15 15:25                     ` Parav Pandit
2023-05-15 15:25                       ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-10 16:04               ` Parav Pandit
2023-05-10 16:04                 ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-11  7:17                 ` [virtio-comment] " Jason Wang
2023-05-11  7:17                   ` [virtio-dev] " Jason Wang
2023-05-11 14:31                   ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-11 14:31                     ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-15  5:12                     ` [virtio-comment] " Jason Wang
2023-05-15  5:12                       ` [virtio-dev] " Jason Wang
2023-05-15 15:26                       ` Parav Pandit
2023-05-15 15:26                         ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-10  6:04       ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-10  6:04         ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-10  7:01         ` [virtio-comment] " Jason Wang
2023-05-10  7:01           ` [virtio-dev] " Jason Wang
2023-05-10  7:43           ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-10  7:43             ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-10 16:13             ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-10 16:13               ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-11  7:04             ` [virtio-comment] " Jason Wang
2023-05-11  7:04               ` [virtio-dev] " Jason Wang
2023-05-11 12:54               ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-11 12:54                 ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-11 13:02                 ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-11 13:02                   ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-15  7:30                   ` [virtio-comment] " Jason Wang
2023-05-15  7:30                     ` [virtio-dev] " Jason Wang
2023-05-15 10:08                     ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-15 10:08                       ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-15 14:30                       ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-15 14:30                         ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-23 18:16                         ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-23 18:16                           ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-23 21:32                           ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-23 21:32                             ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-24  5:56                             ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-24  5:56                               ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-24 18:57                               ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-24 18:57                                 ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-24 19:58                                 ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-24 19:58                                   ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-24 20:01                                   ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-24 20:01                                     ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-24 20:15                                     ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-24 20:15                                       ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-15 15:59                     ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-15 15:59                       ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-16  6:21                       ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-16  6:21                         ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-16 19:11                         ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-16 19:11                           ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-16 20:58                           ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-16 20:58                             ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-16 21:19                             ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-16 21:19                               ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-16 21:23                               ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-16 21:23                                 ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-16 21:30                                 ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-16 21:30                                   ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-15  7:13                 ` [virtio-comment] " Jason Wang
2023-05-15  7:13                   ` [virtio-dev] " Jason Wang
2023-05-11 13:15               ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-11 13:15                 ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-11 13:45                 ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-11 13:45                   ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-12 14:03                   ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-12 14:03                     ` Parav Pandit
2023-05-16  3:54                 ` [virtio-comment] " Jason Wang
2023-05-16  3:54                   ` [virtio-dev] " Jason Wang
2023-05-16 19:35                   ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-16 19:35                     ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-16 21:11                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2023-05-16 21:11                       ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-16 21:49                       ` Parav Pandit
2023-05-16 21:49                         ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-16 21:56                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-16 21:56                           ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-10 16:11         ` Parav Pandit
2023-05-10 16:11           ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-10 16:16           ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-10 16:16             ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-10 17:33             ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-10 17:33               ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-10 21:08               ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-10 21:08                 ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-10 21:33                 ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-10 21:33                   ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-10 21:48                   ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-10 21:48                     ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-11  7:06                 ` [virtio-comment] " Jason Wang
2023-05-11  7:06                   ` [virtio-dev] " Jason Wang
2023-05-11 13:04                   ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-11 13:04                     ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-15  5:19                     ` [virtio-comment] " Jason Wang
2023-05-15  5:19                       ` [virtio-dev] " Jason Wang
2023-05-15 15:31                       ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-15 15:31                         ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-11 13:28                   ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-11 13:28                     ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-11 13:38                     ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-11 13:38                       ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-11 16:00                       ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-11 16:00                         ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-11 20:47                       ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-11 20:47                         ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-11 20:58                         ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-11 20:58                           ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-11 21:03                           ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-11 21:03                             ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-15 16:55                             ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-15 16:55                               ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-15  7:10                     ` [virtio-comment] " Jason Wang
2023-05-15  7:10                       ` [virtio-dev] " Jason Wang
2023-05-15 15:49                       ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-15 15:49                         ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-15 17:44                         ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-15 17:44                           ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-15 17:51                           ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-15 17:51                             ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-15 17:56                             ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-15 17:56                               ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-15 18:00                               ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-15 18:00                                 ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-15 18:01                                 ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-15 18:01                                   ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-15 18:05                                   ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-15 18:05                                     ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-16  3:37                                   ` [virtio-comment] " Jason Wang
2023-05-16  3:37                                     ` [virtio-dev] " Jason Wang
2023-05-16  3:43                                     ` [virtio-comment] " Jason Wang
2023-05-16  3:43                                       ` [virtio-dev] " Jason Wang
2023-05-16  5:38                                       ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-16  5:38                                         ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-16  3:28                         ` [virtio-comment] " Jason Wang
2023-05-16  3:28                           ` [virtio-dev] " Jason Wang
2023-05-16  3:45                           ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-16  3:45                             ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-16  4:08                             ` [virtio-comment] " Jason Wang
2023-05-16  4:08                               ` [virtio-dev] " Jason Wang
2023-05-16 19:29                               ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-16 19:29                                 ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-16 21:09                                 ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-16 21:09                                   ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-16 21:41                                   ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-16 21:41                                     ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-16 21:54                                     ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-16 21:54                                       ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-16  4:18                           ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-16  4:18                             ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-07  9:04 ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-07  9:04   ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-08 16:54   ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-08 16:54     ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-15 20:29     ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-15 20:29       ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-15 20:56       ` Parav Pandit
2023-05-15 20:56         ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-16  4:32         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-16  4:32           ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-16 18:45           ` Parav Pandit
2023-05-16 18:45             ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-16 20:42             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-16 20:42               ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-23  6:38 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-23  6:38   ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-23 17:28   ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-23 17:28     ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit

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