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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
To: Vasant Hegde <vasant.hegde@amd.com>
Cc: "Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@intel.com>,
	Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
	"Liu, Yi L" <yi.l.liu@intel.com>,
	"iommu@lists.linux.dev" <iommu@lists.linux.dev>,
	"joro@8bytes.org" <joro@8bytes.org>,
	"will@kernel.org" <will@kernel.org>,
	"suravee.suthikulpanit@amd.com" <suravee.suthikulpanit@amd.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] iommu/amd: Add Secure ATS support
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2025 20:04:24 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250228000424.GJ5011@ziepe.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cc4cf4ae-2d29-4747-b655-df841661b82a@amd.com>

On Thu, Feb 27, 2025 at 09:34:01PM +0530, Vasant Hegde wrote:
> Kevin, Jason,
> 
> On 2/26/2025 12:40 PM, Tian, Kevin wrote:
> >> From: Vasant Hegde <vasant.hegde@amd.com>
> >> Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2025 12:47 PM
> >>
> >>>
> >>>  3) TA is an IOVA and the IOMMU runs it through the full translation
> >>>     to validate it. ATS is just used to signal non-present
> >>
> >> Yes. AMD does this when Host page table is configured.
> > 
> > Here 'signal non-present' implies to support PRI.
> > 
> > But...
> > 
> >>
> >> We need to consider various scenarios. For AMD:
> >>   - Currently on baremetal, we cannot enable SVA and Secure ATS
> > 
> > ... here it says SVA/SATS are incompatible. Any more background?
> 
> Sorry. I should have explained it better.
> 
> To support SVA (PASID/PRI), we have to configure domain with AMD Guest (v2) Page
> table and host page table will not be set (DTE[Mode]=0).
> 
>   GVA -> GPA contains translation and GPA = SPA.
> 
> On ATS request it will send GPA back to device (which is actually a SPA). We can
> support secure ATS, but ATS response will contain the SPA.

I see, that makes sense. The TA is not tagged with a PASID on the wire
so no iommu can support the #2 form with PASID.

Jason

  reply	other threads:[~2025-02-28  0:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-02-25 10:58 [PATCH] iommu/amd: Add Secure ATS support Vasant Hegde
2025-02-25 12:30 ` Yi Liu
2025-02-25 13:18   ` Robin Murphy
2025-02-25 13:57     ` Yi Liu
2025-02-25 14:55     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-02-26  1:09       ` Yi Liu
2025-02-26  1:13         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-02-26  1:27           ` Yi Liu
2025-02-26  2:52           ` Tian, Kevin
2025-02-26  1:12       ` Tian, Kevin
2025-02-26  1:17         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-02-26  2:50           ` Tian, Kevin
2025-02-26 12:57             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-02-26  7:05           ` Tian, Kevin
2025-02-26 12:58             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-02-27 15:27             ` Vasant Hegde
2025-02-28  6:32               ` Tian, Kevin
2025-02-28  7:43                 ` Yi Liu
2025-02-28  8:30                   ` Vasant Hegde
2025-02-28  8:47                     ` Yi Liu
2025-02-28  8:47                       ` Vasant Hegde
2025-03-02  8:10                         ` Yi Liu
2025-03-03  3:00                           ` Tian, Kevin
2025-03-04  6:58                             ` Yi Liu
2025-03-03 11:42                           ` Vasant Hegde
2025-03-05  3:24                             ` Tian, Kevin
2025-03-10 17:07                               ` Vasant Hegde
2025-03-12  7:15                                 ` Tian, Kevin
2025-03-17  8:56                                   ` Vasant Hegde
2025-04-07  5:28                                     ` Tian, Kevin
2025-03-03 18:38                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-03-04  2:16                             ` Baolu Lu
2025-03-04 14:18                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-03-05  2:45                                 ` Baolu Lu
2025-03-05  2:46                                 ` Tian, Kevin
2025-03-04  6:50                             ` Yi Liu
2025-03-04 10:46                               ` Vasant Hegde
2025-03-04 14:20                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-03-05  2:50                                 ` Tian, Kevin
2025-03-05 17:22                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-03-06  2:41                                     ` Tian, Kevin
2025-03-14 12:54                                 ` Yi Liu
2025-03-04 10:15                             ` Vasant Hegde
2025-03-04 14:24                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-03-10 16:35                                 ` Vasant Hegde
2025-03-14 12:09                                 ` Yi Liu
2025-03-19 19:52                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-03-14 12:22                               ` Yi Liu
2025-02-28  8:26                 ` Vasant Hegde
2025-02-28 14:56               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-03-03  2:55                 ` Tian, Kevin
2025-03-10 14:13                   ` Vasant Hegde
2025-03-12  6:55                     ` Tian, Kevin
2025-03-03 11:56                 ` Vasant Hegde
2025-02-26  4:47       ` Vasant Hegde
2025-02-26  7:10         ` Tian, Kevin
2025-02-26 13:01           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-02-26 22:42           ` Jerry Snitselaar
2025-02-27 16:04           ` Vasant Hegde
2025-02-28  0:04             ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2025-02-28  6:18               ` Tian, Kevin
2025-02-28  1:47             ` Baolu Lu
2025-02-28  6:15               ` Tian, Kevin
2025-02-28  8:53                 ` Vasant Hegde
2025-02-28 14:53                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-03-03  2:43                   ` Tian, Kevin
2025-02-28  8:38               ` Vasant Hegde
2025-02-26  4:33   ` Vasant Hegde

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