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From: Vasant Hegde <vasant.hegde@amd.com>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
Cc: Yi Liu <yi.l.liu@intel.com>, "Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@intel.com>,
	Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
	"iommu@lists.linux.dev" <iommu@lists.linux.dev>,
	"joro@8bytes.org" <joro@8bytes.org>,
	"will@kernel.org" <will@kernel.org>,
	"suravee.suthikulpanit@amd.com" <suravee.suthikulpanit@amd.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] iommu/amd: Add Secure ATS support
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2025 22:05:24 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6eb163ae-653f-46f3-bcbc-56a8fc8072ea@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250304142402.GB5011@ziepe.ca>

Jason,


On 3/4/2025 7:54 PM, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 04, 2025 at 03:45:54PM +0530, Vasant Hegde wrote:
>>>  never
>>>  always
>>>  paging-only
>>>  secure-always
>>>  secure-paging-only
>>
>> Why not just expose supported modes (No ATS, ATS, Secure ATS) per group and
>> allow admin to select within supported modes?  We may have to add more logic in
>> sysfs store/show code path. But user will know what is supported and what they
>> can pick.
> 
> A sysfs type thing is what I'm thinking
> 
> Just trying to understand what options we should be providing to
> userspace..
> 
> I am sensitive that we'd like to disble ATS for identity modes in many
> common cases and we get that implicitly today.

In default boot, we can keep existing behavior right?

May be add more logic to sysfs show/store path? Meaning calculate per device
group supported options and expose only those. And in store path validate
against supported options?

> 
>> Also sysfs knob needs new domain ops to communicate changes to indivisual
>> driver. Like in store path
>>   - validate the input
>>   - make sure driver is unbond so that its safe to modify the
>>   - New ops to communicate to indivisual driver
>> 	 something like ops->set_ats_mode(dev, mode)
> 
> Yeah this needs to be considered.. I wonder if a flags input to attach
> is the right way to go.

You mean add `flag` to ops->attach_dev() ? That should work fine.

I said new ops because that would make updating existing domain/DTE becomes easy.

-Vasant

> 
> That would be convenient for how SMMUv3 is structued now as it can just
> switch modes hitlessly with its existing logic. I think all drivers
> should have a similar design.
> 
> Jason


  reply	other threads:[~2025-03-10 16:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-02-25 10:58 [PATCH] iommu/amd: Add Secure ATS support Vasant Hegde
2025-02-25 12:30 ` Yi Liu
2025-02-25 13:18   ` Robin Murphy
2025-02-25 13:57     ` Yi Liu
2025-02-25 14:55     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-02-26  1:09       ` Yi Liu
2025-02-26  1:13         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-02-26  1:27           ` Yi Liu
2025-02-26  2:52           ` Tian, Kevin
2025-02-26  1:12       ` Tian, Kevin
2025-02-26  1:17         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-02-26  2:50           ` Tian, Kevin
2025-02-26 12:57             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-02-26  7:05           ` Tian, Kevin
2025-02-26 12:58             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-02-27 15:27             ` Vasant Hegde
2025-02-28  6:32               ` Tian, Kevin
2025-02-28  7:43                 ` Yi Liu
2025-02-28  8:30                   ` Vasant Hegde
2025-02-28  8:47                     ` Yi Liu
2025-02-28  8:47                       ` Vasant Hegde
2025-03-02  8:10                         ` Yi Liu
2025-03-03  3:00                           ` Tian, Kevin
2025-03-04  6:58                             ` Yi Liu
2025-03-03 11:42                           ` Vasant Hegde
2025-03-05  3:24                             ` Tian, Kevin
2025-03-10 17:07                               ` Vasant Hegde
2025-03-12  7:15                                 ` Tian, Kevin
2025-03-17  8:56                                   ` Vasant Hegde
2025-04-07  5:28                                     ` Tian, Kevin
2025-03-03 18:38                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-03-04  2:16                             ` Baolu Lu
2025-03-04 14:18                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-03-05  2:45                                 ` Baolu Lu
2025-03-05  2:46                                 ` Tian, Kevin
2025-03-04  6:50                             ` Yi Liu
2025-03-04 10:46                               ` Vasant Hegde
2025-03-04 14:20                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-03-05  2:50                                 ` Tian, Kevin
2025-03-05 17:22                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-03-06  2:41                                     ` Tian, Kevin
2025-03-14 12:54                                 ` Yi Liu
2025-03-04 10:15                             ` Vasant Hegde
2025-03-04 14:24                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-03-10 16:35                                 ` Vasant Hegde [this message]
2025-03-14 12:09                                 ` Yi Liu
2025-03-19 19:52                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-03-14 12:22                               ` Yi Liu
2025-02-28  8:26                 ` Vasant Hegde
2025-02-28 14:56               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-03-03  2:55                 ` Tian, Kevin
2025-03-10 14:13                   ` Vasant Hegde
2025-03-12  6:55                     ` Tian, Kevin
2025-03-03 11:56                 ` Vasant Hegde
2025-02-26  4:47       ` Vasant Hegde
2025-02-26  7:10         ` Tian, Kevin
2025-02-26 13:01           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-02-26 22:42           ` Jerry Snitselaar
2025-02-27 16:04           ` Vasant Hegde
2025-02-28  0:04             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-02-28  6:18               ` Tian, Kevin
2025-02-28  1:47             ` Baolu Lu
2025-02-28  6:15               ` Tian, Kevin
2025-02-28  8:53                 ` Vasant Hegde
2025-02-28 14:53                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-03-03  2:43                   ` Tian, Kevin
2025-02-28  8:38               ` Vasant Hegde
2025-02-26  4:33   ` Vasant Hegde

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