From: Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>
To: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Cc: Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>,
Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab+huawei@kernel.org>,
Theodore Tso <tytso@mit.edu>,
Jacopo Mondi <jacopo.mondi@ideasonboard.com>,
Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>,
Derek Barbosa <debarbos@redhat.com>,
Matthieu Baerts <matttbe@kernel.org>,
Konstantin Ryabitsev <konstantin@linuxfoundation.org>,
Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>,
users@kernel.org,
Linux Media Mailing List <linux-media@vger.kernel.org>,
Stephen Finucane <stephenfin@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: Linking Patchwork with Sashiko?
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2026 20:12:49 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260721171249.GF536385@killaraus.ideasonboard.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260720142432.288b0433@robin>
On Mon, Jul 20, 2026 at 02:24:32PM -0400, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> On Mon, 20 Jul 2026 15:26:34 +0100 Mark Brown wrote:
> > On Mon, Jul 20, 2026 at 09:55:37AM -0400, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> >
> > > designed. But I fortunately know of these areas and can easily see when
> > > Sashiko falls over it. Hence, these false positives do not waste my
> > > time as I'm already aware of them. (I do take a deeper look to make
> > > sure it's not reporting something similar that may truly be a bug).
> >
> > OTOH I had a submitter up to v14 on a new series over the weekend since
> > they were iterating Sashiko feedback.
>
> Hmm, we should state that Sashiko is sometimes wrong. A submitter to
> me asked what they should do about a Sashiko feedback they diddn't
> understand, and after reading the Sashiko review, I told them to ignore
> it.
We discussed this at length in linux-media. There were proposals for a
custom header telling patch authors that in case they think a flagged
issue may be incorrect they should reach to an experienced reviewer (or
just ignore it, the wording went through multiple iterations). The
problem there is that, by definition, a junior, unexperienced developer
will have more trouble determining if feedback is correct or not.
> > > Do we need to add an flag to the MAINTAINERS file that states which
> > > sub-systems uses AI?
> >
> > That's probably too complicated - some poeple will want submitters to do
> > things like ask submitters to address Sashiko reviews before the
> > maintainers will look at it, other subsystems might make use of Sashiko
> > reviews or whatever but not make it a requirement for submitters to do
> > so.
>
> Is it too complicated? Do you mean it's too complicated if one
> sub-system says "resolve all Sashiko feedback you receive" and another
> is "You may ignore it"?
>
> We probably don't want maintainers to require resolving all Sashiko
> reviews, but at least respond to them. Where "I don't know" and "I
> think this review is wrong" are legitimate responses. It is basically
> saying "I want to speak to a person" when drudging through the phone
> automated AI teleprompters.
--
Regards,
Laurent Pinchart
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2026-05-30 8:30 ` Linking Patchwork with Sashiko? Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2026-05-30 15:57 ` Roman Gushchin
2026-05-30 18:00 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2026-05-30 18:49 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2026-05-30 18:53 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2026-06-02 15:51 ` Derek Barbosa
2026-06-02 16:51 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2026-06-02 18:39 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-06-02 20:29 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2026-06-02 20:13 ` Roman Gushchin
2026-06-02 20:39 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2026-06-02 20:44 ` Roman Gushchin
2026-06-02 23:50 ` Matthieu Baerts
2026-06-03 3:35 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2026-06-03 3:49 ` Roman Gushchin
2026-06-04 6:52 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2026-06-07 17:56 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2026-06-30 20:32 ` Derek Barbosa
2026-07-10 5:45 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2026-07-10 6:39 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2026-07-11 1:01 ` Roman Gushchin
2026-07-13 7:55 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2026-07-13 9:41 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-07-13 20:04 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2026-07-14 22:55 ` Roman Gushchin
2026-07-15 0:59 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-07-15 2:00 ` Roman Gushchin
2026-07-15 3:06 ` Linus Torvalds
2026-07-15 12:21 ` Jori Koolstra
2026-07-15 16:50 ` Steven Rostedt
2026-07-15 18:13 ` Nicolas Dufresne
2026-07-15 19:12 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-07-15 19:27 ` Nicolas Dufresne
2026-07-15 20:03 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-07-16 15:04 ` August Zeller
2026-07-15 16:43 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-07-15 23:28 ` lyude
2026-07-15 7:59 ` Jacopo Mondi
2026-07-15 8:40 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2026-07-15 17:31 ` Theodore Tso
2026-07-16 8:07 ` Jacopo Mondi
2026-07-17 9:40 ` Paolo Bonzini
2026-07-17 12:20 ` Theodore Tso
2026-07-17 13:25 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2026-07-20 13:55 ` Steven Rostedt
2026-07-20 14:26 ` Mark Brown
2026-07-20 18:24 ` Steven Rostedt
2026-07-21 16:42 ` Mark Brown
2026-07-21 19:15 ` Steven Rostedt
2026-07-21 17:12 ` Laurent Pinchart [this message]
2026-07-21 19:18 ` Steven Rostedt
2026-07-20 19:16 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2026-07-21 15:43 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2026-07-17 15:22 ` Nicolas Dufresne
2026-07-21 16:27 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-07-15 12:38 ` Mark Brown
2026-07-15 16:28 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-07-15 21:08 ` Roman Gushchin
2026-07-15 23:20 ` Steven Rostedt
2026-07-16 0:09 ` Roman Gushchin
2026-07-20 13:36 ` Steven Rostedt
2026-07-21 0:34 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2026-07-17 12:32 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-07-20 18:08 ` Steven Rostedt
2026-07-21 18:25 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-07-21 19:25 ` Steven Rostedt
2026-07-15 3:54 ` Theodore Tso
2026-07-15 7:13 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2026-07-15 12:42 ` James Bottomley
2026-07-15 16:18 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-07-15 16:53 ` James Bottomley
2026-07-15 17:09 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-07-15 16:11 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-07-15 17:00 ` Jan Kara
2026-07-15 20:28 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-07-15 20:36 ` James Bottomley
2026-07-15 20:42 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-07-16 0:14 ` Roman Gushchin
2026-07-16 7:04 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2026-07-15 23:32 ` Steven Rostedt
2026-07-16 0:03 ` Roman Gushchin
2026-07-21 16:01 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-07-16 7:21 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2026-07-16 13:33 ` Jan Kara
2026-07-16 18:24 ` Willy Tarreau
2026-07-15 17:14 ` Theodore Tso
2026-07-15 17:35 ` Miguel Ojeda
2026-07-15 17:41 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-07-15 18:18 ` Linus Torvalds
2026-07-15 18:51 ` Laurent Pinchart
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2026-07-15 20:13 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-07-16 9:20 ` Giacomo Tesio
2026-07-16 15:10 ` August Zeller
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2026-07-15 17:12 ` Ihor Solodrai
2026-07-15 17:35 ` Mark Brown
2026-07-15 18:39 ` Ihor Solodrai
2026-07-15 20:32 ` Mark Brown
2026-07-15 19:06 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-07-15 21:13 ` Theodore Tso
2026-07-16 3:00 ` Nicolas Dufresne
2026-07-16 3:53 ` Theodore Tso
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