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From: "Matt W. Benjamin" <matt@linuxbox.com>
To: Trond Myklebust <Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com>
Cc: linux-nfs <linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org>,
	Christoph Anton Mitterer <calestyo@scientia.net>
Subject: Re: XATTRs in NFS?
Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2013 11:10:07 -0400 (EDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <240479729.48.1382627407924.JavaMail.root@thunderbeast.private.linuxbox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1382627297.6430.0.camel@leira.trondhjem.org>

Hi,

Sorry I was not clear.  I was not re-stating support for this banned feature.

I'm interested in implementation code I can use privately under GPLv2.

Thanks!

Matt

----- "Trond Myklebust" <Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 2013-10-24 at 11:05 -0400, Matt W. Benjamin wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > Presumably Linux client and server implementations would restrict
> use of "system."
> > Perhaps would be more to talk about, if xattrs were implemented
> experimentally.
> > 
> > I'm interested in knowing about patches that might be floating
> around for the Linux client, for NFSv4.x.  (I've seen NFSv3 work.)
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > Matt
> 
> We've already talked about this, Matt. The answer is still NO.
> 
> Trond
> 
> > ----- "Trond Myklebust" <Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > On Oct 24, 2013, at 3:13 PM, Christoph Anton Mitterer
> > > <calestyo@scientia.net> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > On Thu, 2013-10-24 at 08:45 +0000, Myklebust, Trond wrote:
> > > >> labeled NFS (i.e. security labels for NFS) is already supported
> in
> > > Linux 3.10 and newer.
> > > > Sure, but that doesn't really help me.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > >> There are no plans to merge general purpose xattrs.
> > > > Why not? Is it a big deal?
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > Linux xattrs are a rabid mess.
> > > 
> > > The whole "system" namespace is something that cannot and should
> not
> > > ever be exposed on a network.
> > > The "trusted" and "user" namespaces just offer specialised
> storage.
> > > Why are they needed?
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > >> Please just use an application-specific database.
> > > > Well that won't work,... since that wouldn't be updated if e.g.
> > > > pathnames are changed by any program (cp, mv)
> > > 
> > > If the data needs to follow the file, then store it in the file.
> Why
> > > do you need the filesystem to manage that for you?
> > > 
> > > Cheers
> > >   Trond--
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> > 
> 
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  reply	other threads:[~2013-10-24 15:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <155020130.44.1382627021008.JavaMail.root@thunderbeast.private.linuxbox.com>
2013-10-24 15:05 ` XATTRs in NFS? Matt W. Benjamin
2013-10-24 15:08   ` Myklebust, Trond
2013-10-24 15:10     ` Matt W. Benjamin [this message]
     [not found] <432349691.14.1382795633967.JavaMail.root@thunderbeast.private.linuxbox.com>
2013-10-26 14:01 ` Matt W. Benjamin
2013-10-27 12:31   ` Myklebust, Trond
2013-10-27 16:56     ` Christoph Hellwig
2013-10-27 17:50       ` Simo Sorce
2013-10-27 18:07       ` Myklebust, Trond
2013-10-27 18:30         ` Simo Sorce
2013-10-27 18:41           ` Myklebust, Trond
2013-10-27 22:20             ` Christoph Anton Mitterer
2013-10-28  0:32               ` Myklebust, Trond
2013-10-28  9:53         ` Hellwig Christoph
2013-10-27 21:22     ` Matt W. Benjamin
     [not found] <739187808.295.1382744200733.JavaMail.root@thunderbeast.private.linuxbox.com>
2013-10-25 23:52 ` Matt W. Benjamin
2013-10-26  5:18   ` J. Bruce Fields
2013-10-26 11:36     ` Matt W. Benjamin
2013-10-23 20:37 Christoph Anton Mitterer
2013-10-24  8:45 ` Myklebust, Trond
2013-10-24 14:13   ` Christoph Anton Mitterer
2013-10-24 14:32     ` Myklebust, Trond
2013-10-24 15:07       ` Simo Sorce
2013-10-24 15:11         ` Myklebust, Trond
2013-10-24 15:16           ` Simo Sorce
2013-10-24 15:23             ` Jeff Layton
2013-10-24 15:29               ` Matt W. Benjamin
2013-10-24 15:53               ` Myklebust, Trond
2013-10-24 16:10               ` Christoph Anton Mitterer
2013-10-24 15:27             ` Myklebust, Trond
2013-10-24 16:01       ` Christoph Anton Mitterer
2013-10-24 16:30         ` Myklebust, Trond
2013-10-24 17:22           ` Christoph Anton Mitterer
2013-10-25 14:08             ` J. Bruce Fields
2013-10-25 15:26               ` Ric Wheeler
2013-10-25 15:32                 ` Chuck Lever
2013-10-26 18:00                   ` Christoph Anton Mitterer
2013-10-26 13:20                 ` Myklebust, Trond
     [not found]                   ` <OF01D9818B.36018C0F-ON88257C10.00608BC0-88257C10.006139C6@LocalDomain>
2013-10-26 17:46                     ` Marc Eshel
2013-10-27 12:48                       ` Myklebust, Trond
2013-10-28  0:14                         ` Christoph Anton Mitterer
2013-10-28  0:19                           ` Myklebust, Trond
2013-10-28  0:23                             ` Christoph Anton Mitterer
2013-10-28 13:25                         ` James Morris
2013-10-28 15:41                           ` Ric Wheeler
2013-10-26 17:12               ` Christoph Anton Mitterer
2013-10-27 19:15                 ` J. Bruce Fields
2013-10-27 21:57                   ` Christoph Anton Mitterer
2013-10-28  0:17                     ` Myklebust, Trond
2013-10-28  0:27                       ` Christoph Anton Mitterer
2013-10-28  0:44                         ` Myklebust, Trond
2013-10-28  1:04                           ` Christoph Anton Mitterer
2013-10-28 15:40                           ` Ric Wheeler
2013-10-28 16:15                             ` Christoph Anton Mitterer
2013-10-28 17:49                               ` Myklebust, Trond
2013-10-28 18:00                                 ` Ric Wheeler
2013-10-28 18:08                                   ` Dr Fields James Bruce
2013-10-28 18:31                                     ` Ric Wheeler
2013-10-28 20:44                                       ` Marc Eshel
2013-10-28 20:55                                         ` [nfsv4] " Haynes, Tom
2013-10-28 21:02                                           ` J. Bruce Fields
2013-10-28 21:04                                             ` Chuck Lever
2013-10-28 21:28                                               ` Marc Eshel
     [not found]                                     ` <526EC3F7.3090601@gmail.com>
2013-10-29  0:22                                       ` Fwd: " Anand Avati
2013-10-29  0:39                                         ` Christoph Anton Mitterer
2013-10-29  0:53                                           ` Myklebust, Trond
2013-10-29  1:04                                             ` Christoph Anton Mitterer
2013-10-29  0:49                                         ` Myklebust, Trond
2013-10-29  1:00                                           ` Ric Wheeler
2013-10-29  1:26                                             ` Myklebust, Trond
2013-10-29  1:24                                               ` Anand Avati
2013-10-29  1:52                                                 ` Myklebust, Trond
2013-10-29  2:22                                                   ` Anand Avati
2013-10-29  1:39                                               ` Christoph Anton Mitterer
2013-10-29  2:28                                                 ` Myklebust, Trond
2013-10-29  4:27                                                   ` Marc Eshel
2013-10-28 21:34                                   ` Matt W. Benjamin
2013-10-28 18:15                                 ` Christoph Anton Mitterer

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