From: Dan Kegel <dank@kegel.com>
To: "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Gordon Oliver <gordo@pincoya.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] /dev/epoll update ...
Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2001 21:16:27 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3BAEB39B.DE7932CF@kegel.com> (raw)
Gordon Oliver <gordo@pincoya.com> wrote:
> But you missed the obvious optimization of doing an f_ops->poll when
> the file is _added_. This means that you'll get an initial event when
> there is data ready. ...
Note that you can do that in userspace by calling poll(), btw. That
gets you down to a single extra system call initially.
> Note that it has the additional advantage of making the dispatch code
> in the user application easier. You no longer have to do special code
> to handle the speculative read after adding the fd.
As Davide points out in his reply, /dev/epoll is an exact clone of
the O_SETSIG/O_SETOWN/O_ASYNC realtime signal way of getting readiness
change events, but using a memory-mapped buffer instead of signal delivery
(and obeying an interest mask). Unlike /dev/poll, it only provides
information about *changes* in readiness.
Everyone who has successfully written code using the O_SETSIG/O_SETOWN/O_ASYNC
code knows that it does not send an initial state event. This has not
gotten in the way, as a rule.
If it does turn out to be Very Important for these single-shot readiness
notification schemes to generate synthetic initial readiness events,
it should be added both to /dev/epoll and to O_SETSIG/O_SETOWN/O_ASYNC.
I think there is still some confusion out there because of the name
Davide chose; /dev/epoll is so close to /dev/poll that it lulls many
people (myself included) into thinking it's a very similar thing. It ain't.
(I really have to fix my c10k page to reflect that correctly...)
- Dan
next reply other threads:[~2001-09-24 4:15 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2001-09-24 4:16 Dan Kegel [this message]
2001-09-24 19:11 ` [PATCH] /dev/epoll update Eric W. Biederman
2001-09-24 19:34 ` Jamie Lokier
2001-09-24 20:09 ` Davide Libenzi
2001-09-24 21:56 ` Jamie Lokier
2001-09-24 22:08 ` Davide Libenzi
2001-09-24 22:09 ` Jamie Lokier
2001-09-24 22:20 ` Davide Libenzi
2001-09-24 22:21 ` Jamie Lokier
2001-09-24 22:30 ` Davide Libenzi
2001-09-25 9:25 ` Dan Kegel
[not found] ` <3BAF83EF.C8018E45@distributopia.com>
2001-09-25 8:12 ` Dan Kegel
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-03-20 3:49 [patch] " Davide Libenzi
[not found] <local.mail.linux-kernel/3BB03C6A.7D1DD7B3@kegel.com>
[not found] ` <local.mail.linux-kernel/3BAEB39B.DE7932CF@kegel.com>
[not found] ` <local.mail.linux-kernel/3BAF83EF.C8018E45@distributopia.com>
2001-09-25 17:36 ` [PATCH] " Jonathan Lemon
2001-09-25 18:34 ` Dan Kegel
2001-09-21 6:22 Dan Kegel
2001-09-21 18:45 ` Davide Libenzi
2001-09-19 2:20 Dan Kegel
2001-09-19 6:25 ` Dan Kegel
2001-09-19 7:04 ` Christopher K. St. John
2001-09-19 15:37 ` Dan Kegel
2001-09-19 15:59 ` Zach Brown
2001-09-19 17:12 ` Christopher K. St. John
2001-09-19 17:39 ` Davide Libenzi
2001-09-19 18:26 ` Alan Cox
2001-09-19 17:25 ` Davide Libenzi
2001-09-19 19:03 ` Christopher K. St. John
2001-09-19 19:30 ` Davide Libenzi
2001-09-19 21:49 ` Christopher K. St. John
2001-09-19 22:11 ` Davide Libenzi
2001-09-19 23:24 ` Christopher K. St. John
2001-09-19 23:52 ` Davide Libenzi
2001-09-20 2:13 ` Dan Kegel
2001-09-20 2:28 ` Davide Libenzi
2001-09-20 3:03 ` Dan Kegel
2001-09-20 16:58 ` Davide Libenzi
2001-09-20 4:32 ` Christopher K. St. John
2001-09-20 4:43 ` Christopher K. St. John
2001-09-20 5:05 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2001-09-20 18:25 ` Davide Libenzi
2001-09-20 19:33 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2001-09-20 19:58 ` Davide Libenzi
2001-09-20 17:18 ` Davide Libenzi
2001-09-24 0:11 ` Gordon Oliver
2001-09-24 0:33 ` Davide Libenzi
2001-09-24 19:23 ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-09-24 20:04 ` Davide Libenzi
2001-09-21 5:59 ` Ton Hospel
2001-09-21 16:48 ` Davide Libenzi
2001-09-19 17:21 ` Davide Libenzi
2001-09-07 19:27 Davide Libenzi
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