Re: new alsa docs.

Re: new alsa docs.

[Patrick Shirkey]

Does anybody know how to get all the text from a text area to post when 
it includes " and ' marks?

I am using stripslashes($var) to pass the variable between pages with 
success but when I do the final post if I use "" around the VALUE in the 
input line the text gets cut off at the first " or if I use '' the text 
gets cut off at the first '.

eg.

        <INPUT NAME='note' TYPE='hidden' VALUE="<?echo 
stripslashes($note); ?>">

or

        <INPUT NAME='note' TYPE='hidden' VALUE='<?echo 
stripslashes($note); ?>'>

This is the script I am using to mail the form. I suspect that the mail 
command at the very bottom is fscking it but I'm not sure how I can fix it.

----
<?

if ($extradoc) {
	$notename = $extradoc;
} else {
	$notename = $module;
	}


$MailToAddress = "pshirkey@boosthardware.com";
$MailSubject = "ALSA: doc notes additions";
     if (!$YourAddress) {
     $YourAddress = "Null";
     }
$Header = "The following has been submitted as a note for the 
documentation of $notename. Save this as 
/alsa-doc/additions/$notename.php3. If there is not a file already you 
may need to use the template. Don't forget to add any new pages to 
cvs.\n cvs add www/alsa-doc/additions/$notename.php3";
$Footer = "";

   	$Name =  (stripslashes($Name));
	$YourAddress = (stripslashes($YourAddress));
	$time = (stripslashes($time));
	$note = (stripslashes($note));

	

	$Message .= "		<table border=\"0\" cellpadding=\"4\" cellspacing=\"0\" 
width=\"620\">\n";
        $Message .= "		<tr valign=\"top\">\n";
        $Message .= "		<td bgcolor=\"#bed1be\" colspan=\"2\">\n";
        $Message .= "    		<table border=\"0\" cellpadding=\"2\" 
cellspacing=\"0\" width=\"620\">\n";
        $Message .= "    		<tr valign=\"top\"><td>\n";
        $Message .= "       		$Name   &nbsp &nbsp <a href=\"mailto: 
$YourAddress\">$YourAddress</a><br>\n";
        $Message .= "       		$time</td>\n";
        $Message .= "    		<td align=\"right\">\n";
        $Message .= "    		<br></td>\n";
        $Message .= "    		</tr>\n";
        $Message .= "    		<tr bgcolor=\"#f0f0f0\"><td colspan=\"2\">\n";
        $Message .= "    		<pre>\n";
        $Message .= 			$note;
        $Message .= "\n		</pre>\n";
        $Message .= "    		</td></tr>\n";
        $Message .= "    		</table>\n";
        $Message .= "		</td>\n";
        $Message .= "		</tr>\n";
        $Message .= "		</table>\n";



        	if ($Header) {
        	$Message = $Header."\n\n".$Message;
	}

        	if ($Footer) {
        	$Message .= "\n\n".$Footer;
        	}

        	mail("$MailToAddress", "$MailSubject", "$Message", "From: 
$YourAddress");
      ?>
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Re: new alsa docs.

[Antti Boman]

Sorry if I didn't understand your problem, but here goes.

Patrick Shirkey wrote:
> Does anybody know how to get all the text from a text area to post when 
> it includes " and ' marks?
> 
> I am using stripslashes($var) to pass the variable between pages with 
> success but when I do the final post if I use "" around the VALUE in the 
> input line the text gets cut off at the first " or if I use '' the text 
> gets cut off at the first '.
> 
> eg.
> 
>        <INPUT NAME='note' TYPE='hidden' VALUE="<?echo 
> stripslashes($note); ?>">
> 
> or
> 
>        <INPUT NAME='note' TYPE='hidden' VALUE='<?echo 
> stripslashes($note); ?>'>

Those look the same to me, so I assume you meant the other one with 
citation marks.

Anyway, you should use htmlspecialchars() to turn the special characters 
interfering html markup (' # & < >) to html entities. So:

<INPUT NAME="note" TYPE="hidden" VALUE="<?echo 
htmlspecialchars(stripslashes($note)); ?>">

> $MailToAddress = "pshirkey@boosthardware.com";
> $MailSubject = "ALSA: doc notes additions";
>     if (!$YourAddress) {
>     $YourAddress = "Null";
>     }

Hmmm... you're testing $Youraddress for integer, was that the intention? 
If $Youraddress doesn't contain a number in the beginning of the string, 
it fails and $Youradddress turns to "Null".

I also assumed you're using PHP.

Tell me more if I got it completely wrong ;)

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Re: new alsa docs.

[Patrick Shirkey]

Antti Boman wrote:
> Sorry if I didn't understand your problem, but here goes.

You are right on the money. Now people can send full code examples 
without it getting chopped.

Thanks.

> <INPUT NAME="note" TYPE="hidden" VALUE="<?echo 
> htmlspecialchars(stripslashes($note)); ?>">
> 
>> $MailToAddress = "pshirkey@boosthardware.com";
>> $MailSubject = "ALSA: doc notes additions";
>>     if (!$YourAddress) {
>>     $YourAddress = "Null";
>>     }
> 
> 
> Hmmm... you're testing $Youraddress for integer, was that the intention? 
> If $Youraddress doesn't contain a number in the beginning of the string, 
> it fails and $Youradddress turns to "Null".
> 

oops. I haven't had any problems with it yet. It just adds NULL to the 
address of the sender which is the alsa server. It's no big deal.



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Re: new alsa docs.

[Patrick Shirkey]

To make the module options complete I need someone to send me the output of

     modinfo $(modprobe -l snd-*) | cat > modules

when run on PPC and an ARM and a computer with old PnP cards/slots.

Run it as root user. It will write a file called modules to the 
directory you run it from.

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Re: new alsa docs.

[Frans Ketelaars]

On Fri, 09 Aug 2002 16:31:30 +0900
Patrick Shirkey <pshirkey@boosthardware.com> wrote:

> To make the module options complete I need someone to send me the output of
> 
>      modinfo $(modprobe -l snd-*) | cat > modules
> 
> when run on PPC and an ARM and a computer with old PnP cards/slots.
> 
> Run it as root user. It will write a file called modules to the 
> directory you run it from.
> 
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This is with rc2 on ia32 with all (ISA card) modules. The 64K file is only 
attached to the message sent to Patrick. HTH, 

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Re: new alsa docs.

[Patrick Shirkey]

For those who are interested. Thanks to a tip from Eric Inge Bolso we 
now have links instead of buttons in the matrix.



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Re: new alsa docs.

[Clemens Ladisch]

I didn't bother to report USB MIDI devices - until now:

Evolution        http://www.evolution.co.uk/
    MK-225C          http://www.evolution.co.uk/products/
    MK-249           http://www.evolution.co.uk/products/
    MK-249C          http://www.evolution.co.uk/products/
    MK-361           http://www.evolution.co.uk/products/
    MK-361C          http://www.evolution.co.uk/products/
    UC-16            http://www.evolution.co.uk/products/

Roland/Edirol    http://www.edirol.com/
    PC-300           http://www.edirol.com/products/info/pc300.html
    SC-8820          http://www.edirol.com/products/info/archive/sc8820.html
    SC-8850          http://www.edirol.com/products/info/archive/sc8850.html
    SC-D70           http://www.edirol.com/products/info/archive/scd70.html
    SD-90            http://www.edirol.com/products/info/sd90.html
    SK-500           http://www.edirol.com/products/info/archive/sk500.html
    U-8              http://www.edirol.com/products/info/archive/u8.html
    UA-100           http://www.edirol.com/products/info/archive/ua100.html
    UA-100G          http://www.edirol.com/products/info/archive/ua100g.html
    UM-1             http://www.edirol.com/products/info/um1.html
    UM-1S            http://www.edirol.com/products/info/um1s.html
    UM-2(E)          http://www.edirol.com/products/info/um2.html
    UM-4/SuperMPU64  http://www.edirol.com/products/info/archive/um4.html
    UM-550           http://www.edirol.com/products/info/um550.html
    UM-880           http://www.edirol.com/products/info/um880.html
    XV-5050          http://www.rolandus.com/products/details.asp?prodid=XV%2D5050

Steinberg        http://www.steinberg.net/
    USB-2-MIDI       http://www.steinberg.net/products/ae/hardware/usb2midi/

Yamaha           http://www.yamaha.com/
    MU1000           http://www.yamaha.co.jp/product/syndtm/p/dtm/mu20mu10/index.html
    UX256            http://www.yamahasynth.com/pro/ux256/index.html


... and another USB Audio device:

Roland/Edirol    http://www.edirol.com/
    UA-1A            http://www.edirol.com/products/info/ua1a.html



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Re: new alsa docs.

[Patrick Shirkey]

Clemens Ladisch wrote:
> I didn't bother to report USB MIDI devices - until now:
> 

Thanks. I'm collecting them for now until I or Dan get the energy to add 
them to the matrix.



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Re: new alsa docs.

[Pedro Lopez-Cabanillas]

El Mar 13 Ago 2002 17:01, Patrick Shirkey escribió:
> Clemens Ladisch wrote:
> > I didn't bother to report USB MIDI devices - until now:
>
> Thanks. I'm collecting them for now until I or Dan get the energy to add
> them to the matrix.

The "usb generic" instructions for USB-MIDI devices is a copy of the Midiman 
MidisportNxN page. This is very inaccurate and confusing, as many devices 
(e.g. the Roland/Edirol ones) aren't EZ-USB devices and don't need/accept the 
ezusbmidi firmware at all. Please, remove the ezusbmidi references from the 
generic usb-midi page.

On the other hand, this device is reported by Clemens:
 Steinberg        http://www.steinberg.net/
    USB-2-MIDI       http://www.steinberg.net/products/ae/hardware/usb2midi/
It is another EZ-USB based device, and needs the ezusbmidi firmware to work. 
You can safely copy the Midisport page for it.

I would like to insist again about including "EZ-USB" in the chipset column 
for  these devices: 
	Midiman Midisport NxN
	Midiman USB Keystations: 
http://www.midiman.net/products/midiman/keystations.php
	Steinberg USB-MIDI-2 adaptor:
http://www.steinberg.net/products/ae/hardware/usb2midi/

For the "chipset" column you can put here EZ-USB (or "Cypress AN2131XX") 
http://www.cypress.com/products/datasheet.cfm?partnum=AN2131SC

This chipset is widely used in USB peripherals, not only MIDI ones, and it is  
related to Intel 8051 chip. The firmware loader (fxload) for this chipset is 
included in linux-hotplug: http://linux-hotplug.sourceforge.net/
And SDCC (Small Device C Compiler) is a GPL tool that can be used to build 
firmware drivers: http://sdcc.sourceforge.net/

Regards,
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Re: new alsa docs.

[Patrick Shirkey]

Pedro Lopez-Cabanillas wrote:
> El Mar 13 Ago 2002 17:01, Patrick Shirkey escribió:
> 
>>Clemens Ladisch wrote:
>>
>>>I didn't bother to report USB MIDI devices - until now:
>>
>>Thanks. I'm collecting them for now until I or Dan get the energy to add
>>them to the matrix.
> 
> 
> The "usb generic" instructions for USB-MIDI devices is a copy of the Midiman 
> MidisportNxN page. This is very inaccurate and confusing, as many devices 
> (e.g. the Roland/Edirol ones) aren't EZ-USB devices and don't need/accept the 
> ezusbmidi firmware at all. Please, remove the ezusbmidi references from the 
> generic usb-midi page.
> 

Currently I am trying to maintain as few pages as possible so the 
generic instructions access exactly the same data as ezusb devices. 
However I have made the ezusb instructions more recognisable.

If this is still too confusing then I will have to add another variable 
for all ezusb devices. I would rather not as it means one more little 
thing to remember. I will add a note on the matrix for these cards below.


> On the other hand, this device is reported by Clemens:
>  Steinberg        http://www.steinberg.net/
>     USB-2-MIDI       http://www.steinberg.net/products/ae/hardware/usb2midi/
> It is another EZ-USB based device, and needs the ezusbmidi firmware to work. 
> You can safely copy the Midisport page for it.
> 
> I would like to insist again about including "EZ-USB" in the chipset column 
> for  these devices: 
> 	Midiman Midisport NxN
> 	Midiman USB Keystations: 
> http://www.midiman.net/products/midiman/keystations.php
> 	Steinberg USB-MIDI-2 adaptor:
> http://www.steinberg.net/products/ae/hardware/usb2midi/
> 
> For the "chipset" column you can put here EZ-USB (or "Cypress AN2131XX") 
> http://www.cypress.com/products/datasheet.cfm?partnum=AN2131SC
> 
> This chipset is widely used in USB peripherals, not only MIDI ones, and it is  
> related to Intel 8051 chip. The firmware loader (fxload) for this chipset is 
> included in linux-hotplug: http://linux-hotplug.sourceforge.net/
> And SDCC (Small Device C Compiler) is a GPL tool that can be used to build 
> firmware drivers: http://sdcc.sourceforge.net/
> 
> Regards,
> Pedro
> 
> 
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Re: new alsa docs.

[Pedro Lopez-Cabanillas]

El Jue 15 Ago 2002 10:56, Patrick Shirkey escribió:
> Currently I am trying to maintain as few pages as possible so the
> generic instructions access exactly the same data as ezusb devices.
> However I have made the ezusb instructions more recognisable.
>
> If this is still too confusing then I will have to add another variable
> for all ezusb devices. I would rather not as it means one more little
> thing to remember. I will add a note on the matrix for these cards below.
>
Ok, it's more clear now. Thanks.

Regards,
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Re: new alsa docs.

[Patrick Shirkey]

Pedro Lopez-Cabanillas wrote:


> I would like to insist again about including "EZ-USB" in the chipset column 
> for  these devices: 
> 	Midiman Midisport NxN
> 	Midiman USB Keystations: 
> http://www.midiman.net/products/midiman/keystations.php
> 	Steinberg USB-MIDI-2 adaptor:
> http://www.steinberg.net/products/ae/hardware/usb2midi/
> 

done.


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Re: new alsa docs.

[Clemens Ladisch]

Patrick Shirkey wrote:
> Thanks. I'm collecting them for now until I or Dan get the energy to add
> them to the matrix.

Wouldn't it be helpful to make the matrix Open Source(TM) in order to
be able to submit a patch/SQL script/whatever?


And while we're at it, some more USB MIDI devices for the collection:

Roland/Edirol   http://www.edirol.com/
    SD-20    http://www.edirol.com/products/info/sd20.html
    SD-80    http://www.edirol.com/products/info/sd80.html
    UA-700   http://www.edirol.com/products/info/ua700.html

The following USB MIDI devices are green:

Yamaha     http://www.yamaha.com/
    CLP-150  http://www.yamaha.co.jp/product/cl/clp/clp-150.html
    CLP-170  http://www.yamaha.co.jp/product/cl/clp/clp-170.html
    MOTIF6   http://www.yamahasynth.com/pro/motif/index.html
    MOTIF7   http://www.yamahasynth.com/pro/motif/index.html
    MOTIF8   http://www.yamahasynth.com/pro/motif/index.html
    MU500    http://www.yamaha.co.jp/product/syndtm/p/dtm/mu500/
    MU2000   http://www.yamaha.co.jp/product/syndtm/p/dtm/mu20mu10/index.html
    S08      http://www.yamahasynth.com/pro/s08/index.html
    UW500    http://www.yamahasynth.com/pro/uw500/index.html
    UX16     http://www.yamaha.com/cgi-win/webcgi.exe/DsplyModel/?gEKS00001UX16
    UX96     http://www.yamaha.com/cgi-win/webcgi.exe/DsplyModel/?gEKS00001UX96


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Re: new alsa docs.

[Patrick Shirkey]

Clemens Ladisch wrote:
> Patrick Shirkey wrote:
> 
>>Thanks. I'm collecting them for now until I or Dan get the energy to add
>>them to the matrix.
> 
> 
> Wouldn't it be helpful to make the matrix Open Source(TM) in order to
> be able to submit a patch/SQL script/whatever?
> 

The matrix page is html (apart from the edit date) so you can just view 
the source and make a patch from that which I will add :) I feel that 
the more people who contribute code to the matrix the better. It would 
be great to have a few more people who are willing to keep track of 
certain product lines.

But if you talking about the entire docs site, you want cvs access and 
you need to talk to Jaroslav as he runs the server.


> 
> And while we're at it, some more USB MIDI devices for the collection:
>

Shall I or you?

> Roland/Edirol   http://www.edirol.com/
>     SD-20    http://www.edirol.com/products/info/sd20.html
>     SD-80    http://www.edirol.com/products/info/sd80.html
>     UA-700   http://www.edirol.com/products/info/ua700.html
> 
> The following USB MIDI devices are green:
> 
> Yamaha     http://www.yamaha.com/
>     CLP-150  http://www.yamaha.co.jp/product/cl/clp/clp-150.html
>     CLP-170  http://www.yamaha.co.jp/product/cl/clp/clp-170.html
>     MOTIF6   http://www.yamahasynth.com/pro/motif/index.html
>     MOTIF7   http://www.yamahasynth.com/pro/motif/index.html
>     MOTIF8   http://www.yamahasynth.com/pro/motif/index.html
>     MU500    http://www.yamaha.co.jp/product/syndtm/p/dtm/mu500/
>     MU2000   http://www.yamaha.co.jp/product/syndtm/p/dtm/mu20mu10/index.html
>     S08      http://www.yamahasynth.com/pro/s08/index.html
>     UW500    http://www.yamahasynth.com/pro/uw500/index.html
>     UX16     http://www.yamaha.com/cgi-win/webcgi.exe/DsplyModel/?gEKS00001UX16
>     UX96     http://www.yamaha.com/cgi-win/webcgi.exe/DsplyModel/?gEKS00001UX96
> 
> 
> Clemens
> 
> 



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Re: new alsa docs.

[Clemens Ladisch]

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Patrick Shirkey wrote:
> Clemens Ladisch wrote:
> > Wouldn't it be helpful to make the matrix Open Source(TM) in order to
> > be able to submit a patch/SQL script/whatever?
>
> The matrix page is html (apart from the edit date) so you can just view
> the source and make a patch from that which I will add :)

It looked as if generated from a database (not after looking at the
source :-)

> > And while we're at it, some more USB MIDI devices for the collection:
>
> Shall I or you?

:-)


Clemens

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Re: new alsa docs.

[Patrick Shirkey]

Clemens Ladisch wrote:
> Patrick Shirkey wrote:
> 
>>Clemens Ladisch wrote:
>>
>>>Wouldn't it be helpful to make the matrix Open Source(TM) in order to
>>>be able to submit a patch/SQL script/whatever?
>>
>>The matrix page is html (apart from the edit date) so you can just view
>>the source and make a patch from that which I will add :)
> 
> 
> It looked as if generated from a database (not after looking at the
> source :-)
> 

applied.

> 
>>>And while we're at it, some more USB MIDI devices for the collection:
>>
>>Shall I or you?
> 
> 





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alsa docs - PHP help

[Patrick Shirkey]

Using urlencode on the template doesn't solve the problem for older
browsers.

Can anyone think of a regex to auto encode the every line in the index 
page that looks like this:

<a
href="doc-php/template.php3?company=Abit&card=AU10&chip=FM801&module=fm801">Install</a>

So that the variables are ulrencoded before the page is rendered?

Otherwise I/future maintainers have to go through every device and hand 
type it in and any patches that are made too.

Ergh!

I'm thinking of something like

   	if (line = <a href="doc-php/template.php3?...){
		for (every variable){
			rewrite as urlencode($variable);
		}
	}		

would I then have to use urldecode in the template?

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new alsa docs.

[Patrick Shirkey]

I'm have soreted out all the final bugs I had with the new docs setup. 
Added the midi stuff and I feel that the site is ready for prime time.

You can see it here:

http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/

I appreciate other people going through it but I will make some links to 
it from the main page tonight.

Thx.

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Re: new alsa docs.

[Dan Hollis]

On Tue, 6 Aug 2002, Patrick Shirkey wrote:
> I'm have soreted out all the final bugs I had with the new docs setup. 
> Added the midi stuff and I feel that the site is ready for prime time.
> You can see it here:
> http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/
> I appreciate other people going through it but I will make some links to 
> it from the main page tonight.

echo corporation is green now...

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Re: new alsa docs.

[Patrick Shirkey]

Dan Hollis wrote:

> 
>echo corporation is green now...
> 

Applied.

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Re: new alsa docs.

[Joerg Mayer]

Nice work Patrick! I've found a few things that can be improved (although
I consider only the first point somewhat important)
1) for emu10k cards: add a section how to download the samples into
   the card
2) The buttons inside the table in the cards page look ugly (konqueror kde3)
3) Add missing ALT tags (and height and width, while you are at it, the
   latter can be done with imagesize from cpan).
4) Look at the pages with a text browser like links or w3m: the color for
   the soundcards is missing.

  Ciao
     Jörg

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Re: new alsa docs.

[Andy Wingo]

On Tue, 06 Aug 2002, Patrick Shirkey wrote:

> I'm have soreted out all the final bugs I had with the new docs setup. 
> Added the midi stuff and I feel that the site is ready for prime time.
> 
> You can see it here:
> 
> http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/

Rad!

I hadn't been keeping up with the status of your work, Patrick, but it
looks great. Nice job.

A few suggestions, quibbles, etc, meant to be constructive feedback:

* It wasn't obvious to me that the "plus" down at the bottom is a link
to add information. Perhaps if it were a link or a button that said
something like "Add comment to this card's page..." or something it
would be more clear.

* I know you've got it templated, but I suppose that all of the common
stuff on the card pages could maybe go on one separate page.

* Are there any programs that don't work with ~/.asoundrc files? I don't
have one, personally. I just use the "default" device, as it suits my
needs fine. I think that templated asoundrc isn't all that useful, but
maybe that's just me.

* It would be nice if the link to the driver docs were a link instead of
a button. A table full of buttons is rather imposing, at least to me. I
think it takes longer to render, too.

Anyway, what you have looks good, keep up the good work. These are just
suggestions, take them or leave them as you will.

regards,

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Re: new alsa docs.

[Patrick Shirkey]

Andy Wingo wrote:
> On Tue, 06 Aug 2002, Patrick Shirkey wrote:
> 
> 
>>I'm have soreted out all the final bugs I had with the new docs setup. 
>>Added the midi stuff and I feel that the site is ready for prime time.
>>
>>You can see it here:
>>
>>http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/
> 
> 
> Rad!
> 
> I hadn't been keeping up with the status of your work, Patrick, but it
> looks great. Nice job.
> 

Thanks.

> A few suggestions, quibbles, etc, meant to be constructive feedback:
> 
> * It wasn't obvious to me that the "plus" down at the bottom is a link
> to add information. Perhaps if it were a link or a button that said
> something like "Add comment to this card's page..." or something it
> would be more clear.
> 

Ok. I stole it from the php site. I am trying to think of a new design 
that is funky. Probably a spin on the ALSA logo with ADD instead of ALSA.

> * I know you've got it templated, but I suppose that all of the common
> stuff on the card pages could maybe go on one separate page.
> 

We discussed this a while ago and the general consensus was that we 
wanted the page to be complete. I have tried to make a compromise 
between having the high level stuff easily accesible and not making it 
too scary for new users. The aim of the new setup is to provide a style 
of documentation which is similar to the way M$ does it. The sad truth 
is that is what the majority are used to so we want to make the 
transition easier for them.

I am open to other ways of presenting the material on the page.

> * Are there any programs that don't work with ~/.asoundrc files? I don't
> have one, personally. I just use the "default" device, as it suits my
> needs fine. I think that templated asoundrc isn't all that useful, but
> maybe that's just me.
> 

The .asoundrc is very simple for the main reason that we don't have 
working user docs for the .asoundrc file yet. I am working on it as are 
others. Watch this space. However the one in the template does work with 
  f.i ardour so that is useful for a lot of people.

> * It would be nice if the link to the driver docs were a link instead of
> a button. A table full of buttons is rather imposing, at least to me. I
> think it takes longer to render, too.
> 

I know but I haven't yet figured out how to make use a link as a submit 
button for a form which is the basis of the current design. Everything 
is posted around. I know there are better ways to do this but I don't 
know how to do them. So it will be form based until I or someone else 
can write a better version. Emphasis on write :)

> Anyway, what you have looks good, keep up the good work. These are just
> suggestions, take them or leave them as you will.
> 

I appreciate your feedback because it shows me which parts I need to 
work on.



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Re: new alsa docs.

[James Tappin]

On Tue, 06 Aug 2002 18:25:22 +0900
PS> > On Tue, 06 Aug 2002, Patrick Shirkey wrote:
PS> > 
PS> > 
PS> >>I'm have soreted out all the final bugs I had with the new docs
PS> >setup. >Added the midi stuff and I feel that the site is ready for
PS> >prime time.>
PS> >>You can see it here:
PS> >>
PS> >>http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/

Just a couple of minor queries.
1) In the "Setting up modprobe and kmod support" you do not include the
line:
        alias sound-service-0-8 snd-seq-oss
(at least for the two cards relevant to me [trident and ice1712] but you
do
include it in the explanation. Which is recommended?

2) For debian it is possible to add a new file "alsasound" (say) to
/etc/modutils/ and update-modules will find it (I'm not sure if this is
recommended practice or not, I'm still very much a beginner with
debian).

Overall though, a nice piece of work, that should be very useful in
making ALSA more accessible to new users.

James


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Re: new alsa docs.

[Patrick Shirkey]

James Tappin wrote:
> On Tue, 06 Aug 2002 18:25:22 +0900
> PS> > On Tue, 06 Aug 2002, Patrick Shirkey wrote:
> PS> > 
> PS> > 
> PS> >>I'm have soreted out all the final bugs I had with the new docs
> PS> >setup. >Added the midi stuff and I feel that the site is ready for
> PS> >prime time.>
> PS> >>You can see it here:
> PS> >>
> PS> >>http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/
> 
> Just a couple of minor queries.
> 1) In the "Setting up modprobe and kmod support" you do not include the
> line:
>         alias sound-service-0-8 snd-seq-oss
> (at least for the two cards relevant to me [trident and ice1712] but you
> do
> include it in the explanation. Which is recommended?
> 

Hmmm, good question. I have added it for now as they are different minor 
numbers.

> 2) For debian it is possible to add a new file "alsasound" (say) to
> /etc/modutils/ and update-modules will find it (I'm not sure if this is
> recommended practice or not, I'm still very much a beginner with
> debian).
> 

Ahh. So all files that configure modules in some way eg startup or 
modules.conf are dealt with by modutils? I'll read up and see if I can 
make the tip more precise.

> Overall though, a nice piece of work, that should be very useful in
> making ALSA more accessible to new users.
> 

Thanks.



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Re: new alsa docs.

[Takashi Iwai]

At Tue, 06 Aug 2002 20:12:02 +0900,
Patrick Shirkey wrote:
> 
> > Just a couple of minor queries.
> > 1) In the "Setting up modprobe and kmod support" you do not include the
> > line:
> >         alias sound-service-0-8 snd-seq-oss
> > (at least for the two cards relevant to me [trident and ice1712] but you
> > do
> > include it in the explanation. Which is recommended?
> > 
> 
> Hmmm, good question. I have added it for now as they are different minor 
> numbers.

another minor correction:

in the section 'A short explanation of what happens in the
/etc/modules.conf file', there are two bogus configurations for the
second card:
	alias sound-service-1-1 snd-seq-oss
	alias sound-service-1-8 snd-seq-oss

they are not necessary, because there is only one /dev/sequencer,
regardless how many cards you have.


ciao,

Takashi


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RE: new alsa docs.

[Karsten Wiese]

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hallo,

please add the turtle beach cards fiji & pinnacle as (supported as module,
cvs) to the sound card matrix.

danke,
karsten

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Re: new alsa docs.

[Andy Wingo]

On Tue, 06 Aug 2002, James Tappin wrote:

> 2) For debian it is possible to add a new file "alsasound" (say) to
> /etc/modutils/ and update-modules will find it (I'm not sure if this is
> recommended practice or not, I'm still very much a beginner with
> debian).

For debian, you're best off installing the alsa libs, etc from packages,
and building the modules from source. The alsa-base package provides
modutils and sysvinit integration. See /etc/alsa/modutils/0.9 [*] for
the modutils stuff.

[*] It might be 1.0 now. I have both files and they look the same. Hey
Jaroslav, let's get a 1.0 ;-)

regards,

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Re: new alsa docs.

[Takashi Iwai]

At Tue, 6 Aug 2002 12:24:47 -0400,
Andy Wingo wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 06 Aug 2002, James Tappin wrote:
> 
> > 2) For debian it is possible to add a new file "alsasound" (say) to
> > /etc/modutils/ and update-modules will find it (I'm not sure if this is
> > recommended practice or not, I'm still very much a beginner with
> > debian).
> 
> For debian, you're best off installing the alsa libs, etc from packages,
> and building the modules from source. The alsa-base package provides
> modutils and sysvinit integration. See /etc/alsa/modutils/0.9 [*] for
> the modutils stuff.
> 
> [*] It might be 1.0 now. I have both files and they look the same. Hey
> Jaroslav, let's get a 1.0 ;-)

at first we need a 0.9 without rc :)


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Re: new alsa docs.

[Niklas Werner]

Am Montag, 5. August 2002 17:51 wurde geschrieben:
> I'm have soreted out all the final bugs I had with the new docs setup.
> Added the midi stuff and I feel that the site is ready for prime time.
>
> You can see it here:
>
> http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/
>
> I appreciate other people going through it but I will make some links
> to it from the main page tonight.

You might want to add Emagic's "EMI 2|6" to the matrix at least in green, 
though it works fully for me with the following:

-> using tapio laxströms firmware loader (yes, he signed a NDA...) from 
http://www.vtoy.fi/~tapio/emi26.html to load the firmware

-> Then using the usb-audio-driver

-> .asoundrc: 
==================
pcm.emi {
        type hw;
        card 0;
}
ctl.emi {
        type hw;
        card 0;
}
==================

-> modules.conf:
==================
alias char-major-116 snd
alias char-major-14 soundcore
# EMI 2|6
alias snd-card-0 snd-usb-audio
alias sound-slot-0 snd-card-0
alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss
alias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm-oss
alias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm-oss
options snd-usb-audio snd_id="emi"
==================

Unfortunately there are a few system-hangups I experienced on my 
intel-box, but I suspect my setup isn't very clean any more...
On my ppc it runs just fine ;-)

Have fun*

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Re: new alsa docs.

[Scott MacKenzie]

Hi,

Can I just take the opportunity to ask why, in the sound-card matrix, 
the Hoontech ST Audio DSP24 is in green as a 'possible' still, when the 
entry below it, the IC Ensemble Envy24 (the former being based on the 
latter) is supported with the ice1712 driver?  Are there outstanding 
issues with regard to Hoontech-specific functions?  I've just started 
playing with the former card (a Mk I version), and in fact am yet to 
obtain an external rack for it.

Regards,

Scott. 
On 2002.08.08 03:11 Niklas Werner wrote:
> 
> You might want to add Emagic's "EMI 2|6" to the matrix at least in
> green,
> though it works fully for me with the following:
> 


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Re: new alsa docs.

[Patrick Shirkey]

Scott MacKenzie wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Can I just take the opportunity to ask why, in the sound-card matrix, 
> the Hoontech ST Audio DSP24 is in green as a 'possible' still, when the 
> entry below it, the IC Ensemble Envy24 (the former being based on the 
> latter) is supported with the ice1712 driver?  Are there outstanding 
> issues with regard to Hoontech-specific functions?  I've just started 
> playing with the former card (a Mk I version), and in fact am yet to 
> obtain an external rack for it.
> 

Let us know how you get on and we will change the matrix accordingly.




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