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From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: Jim Carter <jimc@math.ucla.edu>
Cc: Mike Waychison <Michael.Waychison@sun.com>,
	autofs mailing list <autofs@linux.kernel.org>,
	Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [autofs] [RFC] Towards a Modern Autofs
Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2004 13:01:15 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3FFDC51B.8070108@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.53.0401080911390.27090@simba.math.ucla.edu>

Jim Carter wrote:
> 
>>For justification to it's worth, some institutions have file servers
>>that export hundreds or even thousands of shares over NFS.   As /net is
>>really just a kind of executable indirect map that returns multimounts
>>for each hostname used as a key,  just doing 'cd /net/hostname' may
>>potentially mount hundreds of filesystems.  This is not cool!
> 
> Definitely not cool.  But some users (yours truly among them) do "alias ls
> 'ls -F'", which requires "ls" to stat (and thus mount) every exported
> filesystem.  More uncool, and I don't see any non-disgusting way around it.
> 

No, it doesn't... this has been covered several times already.  It
requires ls to *lstat* the point; it only does a stat() if the resulting
entry is S_IFLNK.  The same is true for GUI tools.  There is a fairly
easy way to distinguish lstat() from virtually all other filesystem
calls -- it doesn't invoke follow_link.  So the answer is simply to
create an inode which is S_IFDIR but has a follow_link method.  The
follow_link method triggers a mount.  This is called a "pseudo-symlink
directory" or sometimes "ghost directory".

	-hpa

  reply	other threads:[~2004-01-08 21:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 115+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-01-06 19:55 [RFC] Towards a Modern Autofs Mike Waychison
2004-01-06 19:55 ` Mike Waychison
2004-01-06 21:01 ` H. Peter Anvin
2004-01-06 21:01   ` [autofs] " H. Peter Anvin
2004-01-06 21:44   ` Mike Waychison
2004-01-06 21:44     ` [autofs] " Mike Waychison
2004-01-06 21:50   ` Tim Hockin
2004-01-06 21:50     ` [autofs] " Tim Hockin
2004-01-06 22:06     ` H. Peter Anvin
2004-01-06 22:06       ` [autofs] " H. Peter Anvin
2004-01-06 22:17       ` Tim Hockin
     [not found]       ` <20040106221502.GA7398@hockin.org>
2004-01-06 22:20         ` H. Peter Anvin
2004-01-06 22:20           ` [autofs] " H. Peter Anvin
2004-01-07 16:19           ` Mike Waychison
2004-01-07 16:19             ` [autofs] " Mike Waychison
2004-01-07 17:55             ` H. Peter Anvin
2004-01-07 21:13               ` Mike Waychison
2004-01-06 22:28       ` name spaces good (was: [autofs] [RFC] Towards a Modern Autofs) Dax Kelson
2004-01-06 22:48         ` name spaces good H. Peter Anvin
2004-01-06 22:48           ` H. Peter Anvin
2004-01-07 21:14 ` [RFC] Towards a Modern Autofs Jim Carter
2004-01-07 21:14   ` [autofs] " Jim Carter
2004-01-07 22:55   ` Mike Waychison
2004-01-07 22:55     ` [autofs] " Mike Waychison
2004-01-08 12:00     ` Ian Kent
2004-01-08 12:00       ` [autofs] " Ian Kent
2004-01-08 15:39       ` Mike Waychison
2004-01-09 18:20         ` Ian Kent
2004-01-09 18:20           ` [autofs] " Ian Kent
2004-01-09 20:06           ` Mike Waychison
2004-01-09 20:06             ` [autofs] " Mike Waychison
2004-01-10  5:43             ` Ian Kent
2004-01-12 13:07               ` Mike Waychison
2004-01-12 16:01                 ` raven
2004-01-12 16:26                   ` Mike Waychison
2004-01-12 22:50                     ` Tim Hockin
2004-01-12 23:28                       ` Mike Waychison
2004-01-13  1:30                       ` Ian Kent
2004-01-13  1:30                         ` [autofs] " Ian Kent
2004-01-12 16:28                   ` raven
2004-01-12 16:58                     ` Mike Waychison
2004-01-13  1:54                       ` Ian Kent
2004-01-13  1:54                         ` [autofs] " Ian Kent
2004-01-13 19:01                         ` Mike Waychison
2004-01-13 19:01                           ` [autofs] " Mike Waychison
2004-01-14 15:58                           ` raven
2004-01-14 19:32                             ` running out of mount points Greg Bradner
2004-01-19 15:48                               ` Greg Bradner
2004-01-19 17:11                                 ` Mike Waychison
2004-01-19 19:07                                   ` Greg Bradner
2004-01-20 19:15                                 ` Jim Carter
2004-01-13 18:46                   ` [RFC] Towards a Modern Autofs Mike Waychison
2004-01-13 18:46                     ` [autofs] " Mike Waychison
2004-01-09 20:51           ` Jim Carter
2004-01-09 20:51             ` [autofs] " Jim Carter
2004-01-10  5:56             ` Ian Kent
2004-01-08 17:34       ` H. Peter Anvin
2004-01-08 19:41         ` Mike Waychison
2004-01-08 23:42         ` Michael Clark
2004-01-09 20:28           ` Mike Waychison
2004-01-09 20:28             ` [autofs] " Mike Waychison
2004-01-09 20:54             ` H. Peter Anvin
2004-01-09 20:54               ` [autofs] " H. Peter Anvin
2004-01-09 21:43               ` Mike Waychison
2004-01-09 21:43                 ` [autofs] " Mike Waychison
2004-01-09 18:32         ` Ian Kent
2004-01-09 18:32           ` [autofs] " Ian Kent
2004-01-09 20:52           ` Mike Waychison
2004-01-09 20:52             ` [autofs] " Mike Waychison
2004-01-10  6:05             ` Ian Kent
2004-01-08 12:29     ` Olivier Galibert
2004-01-08 13:20       ` Robin Rosenberg
2004-01-08 16:23       ` Mike Waychison
2004-01-08 12:35     ` Ian Kent
2004-01-08 13:08       ` Ian Kent
2004-01-08 18:20     ` Jim Carter
2004-01-08 21:01       ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2004-01-08  0:48   ` Ian Kent
2004-01-08  0:48     ` [autofs] " Ian Kent
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-01-06 22:28 Ogden, Aaron A.
2004-01-06 22:41 ` Mike Fedyk
2004-01-06 22:47 ` Tim Hockin
2004-01-06 22:53 ` Paul Raines
2004-01-07 23:14 ` Jim Carter
2004-01-07 23:32   ` H. Peter Anvin
2004-01-08 12:52     ` Ian Kent
2004-01-08 12:52       ` Ian Kent
2004-01-08 18:31       ` viro
2004-01-09 18:43         ` Ian Kent
2004-01-09 19:41         ` Mike Waychison
2004-01-09 19:57           ` H. Peter Anvin
2004-01-09 21:31             ` Mike Waychison
2004-01-09 21:36               ` H. Peter Anvin
2004-01-06 23:34 Ogden, Aaron A.
2004-01-06 23:47 ` Tim Hockin
     [not found] <1b5GC-29h-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found] ` <1b6CO-3v0-15@gated-at.bofh.it>
2004-01-07  4:21   ` Andi Kleen
2004-01-07 17:50     ` H. Peter Anvin
2004-01-07 21:04       ` Mike Waychison
2004-01-07 21:11         ` Mike Fedyk
2004-01-07 23:40           ` Jesper Juhl
2004-01-07 21:24         ` Jeff Garzik
2004-01-07 23:47           ` Mike Waychison
2004-01-07 23:56             ` Jeff Garzik
2004-01-12 16:57               ` Mike Waychison
2004-01-13  7:39                 ` Ian Kent
2004-01-08 19:32 trond.myklebust
2004-01-08 19:41 ` H. Peter Anvin
2004-01-08 20:08   ` trond.myklebust
2004-01-08 21:13     ` H. Peter Anvin
2004-01-08 22:20       ` J. Bruce Fields
2004-01-08 22:24         ` H. Peter Anvin
2004-01-09 20:37       ` Mike Waychison
2004-01-09 21:02         ` H. Peter Anvin
2004-01-09 21:52           ` Mike Waychison
2004-01-09 20:16   ` Mike Waychison

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