From: Peter Williams <peterw@aurema.com>
To: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, johnl@aurema.com
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] O(1) Entitlement Based Scheduler
Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2004 10:46:30 +1100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <40466E56.5070801@aurema.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040303101336.GC8008@wotan.suse.de>
Andi Kleen wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 03, 2004 at 02:45:28PM +1100, Peter Williams wrote:
>
>>Andi Kleen wrote:
>>
>>>Peter Williams <peterw@aurema.com> writes:
>>>
>>>One comment on the patches: could you remove the zillions of numerical
>>>Kconfig
>>>options and just make them sysctls? I don't think it makes any sense
>>>to require a reboot to change any of that. And the user is unlikely
>>>to have much idea yet on what he wants on them while configuring.
>>
>>The default initial values should be fine and the default configuration
>>allows the scheduling tuning parameters (i.e. half life and time slice
>> ) to be changed on a running system via the /proc file system.
>>These are mainly there so that different settings can be used with
>>various benchmarks to determine what are the best settings for various
>>types of loads. If good default values that work well for a wide
>>variety of load types can be found as a result of these experiments then
>>these parameters may be made constants in the code. If not they
>>probably should be made settable via system calls rather than via /proc
>>as you suggest.
>
>
> No doubt that there are different settings that make sense
> for different workloads. But there is no reason one has to recompile
> to set them - it's much nicer to just run a script at boot time to set
> them, instead of recompiling/rebooting. This will also make benchmarking
> much easier, because you can just write a script that sets the
> various parameters, runs workloads, sets other parameters, runs
> workload again etc. Requiring a recompile and reboot makes this
> much harder.
As I said (with the full patch) these values can be set via /proc on a
running system so there's no need for a recompile and reboot.
>
> Also I suspect most people who are not heavily into scheduling
> theory will go with the defaults at compile time, so it's important
> that they already work well.
>
> And consider it from the side of a standard distribution: users
> don't normally recompile their kernels there, so everything that
> makes sense to be tunable should be settable without recompiling.
>
> IMHO CONFIG_* should not be used for anything except for kernel binary
> size tuning and possible compiler tuning.
Yes, once this patch has stabilised we will probably remove some (or
all) of the configuration variables.
Peter
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2004-03-03 2:48 ` [RFC][PATCH] O(1) Entitlement Based Scheduler Andi Kleen
2004-03-03 3:45 ` Peter Williams
2004-03-03 10:13 ` Andi Kleen
2004-03-03 23:46 ` Peter Williams [this message]
2004-03-03 15:57 ` Andi Kleen
2004-03-04 0:41 ` Peter Williams
2004-03-05 3:55 ` Andi Kleen
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2004-03-03 21:38 ` Bill Davidsen
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2004-03-01 9:18 ` Joachim B Haga
2004-03-01 10:18 ` Paul Wagland
2004-03-01 19:11 ` Mike Fedyk
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2004-03-01 1:54 ` Andy Lutomirski
2004-03-01 2:54 ` Peter Williams
2004-03-01 3:46 ` Andy Lutomirski
2004-03-01 4:18 ` Peter Williams
2004-03-02 23:36 ` Peter Williams
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2004-03-01 0:00 ` Peter Chubb
2004-03-02 1:25 ` Peter Williams
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2004-02-29 11:58 ` Joachim B Haga
2004-02-29 20:39 ` Paul Jackson
2004-02-29 22:56 ` Peter Williams
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2004-02-27 3:44 ` Rik van Riel
2004-02-28 21:27 ` Bill Davidsen
2004-02-28 23:55 ` Peter Williams
2004-03-04 21:08 ` Timothy Miller
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2004-02-26 20:14 ` Bill Davidsen
2004-02-26 3:30 Albert Cahalan
2004-02-26 6:19 ` Peter Williams
2004-02-26 17:57 ` Albert Cahalan
2004-02-26 23:24 ` Peter Williams
2004-03-01 3:47 ` Peter Williams
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2004-02-25 23:33 ` Junio C Hamano
2004-02-26 8:15 ` Catalin BOIE
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2004-02-25 14:35 John Lee
2004-02-25 17:09 ` Timothy Miller
2004-02-25 22:12 ` John Lee
2004-02-26 0:31 ` Timothy Miller
2004-02-26 2:04 ` John Lee
2004-02-26 2:18 ` Peter Williams
2004-02-26 2:42 ` Mike Fedyk
2004-02-26 4:10 ` Peter Williams
2004-02-26 4:19 ` Mike Fedyk
2004-02-26 19:23 ` Shailabh Nagar
2004-02-26 19:46 ` Mike Fedyk
2004-02-26 20:42 ` Shailabh Nagar
2004-02-26 16:10 ` Timothy Miller
2004-02-26 19:47 ` Mike Fedyk
2004-02-26 22:51 ` Peter Williams
2004-02-27 10:06 ` Helge Hafting
2004-02-27 11:04 ` Peter Williams
2004-02-26 16:08 ` Timothy Miller
2004-02-26 16:51 ` Rik van Riel
2004-02-26 20:15 ` Peter Williams
2004-02-27 14:46 ` Timothy Miller
2004-02-28 5:00 ` Peter Williams
2004-03-04 21:18 ` Robert White
2004-03-04 23:15 ` Peter Williams
2004-02-26 2:48 ` Nuno Silva
2004-02-26 4:25 ` Peter Williams
2004-02-26 15:57 ` Rik van Riel
2004-02-26 19:28 ` Shailabh Nagar
2004-02-26 16:12 ` Timothy Miller
2004-02-25 22:51 ` Pavel Machek
2004-02-26 3:14 ` John Lee
2004-02-25 23:45 ` Rik van Riel
2004-02-26 7:18 ` John Lee
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