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From: "Kendall Bennett" <KendallB@scitechsoft.com>
To: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc: KendallB@scitechsoft.com,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Generic VESA framebuffer driver and Video card BOOT?
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 11:20:58 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <416FB29A.11731.1C46848@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1097850784.9857.20.camel@localhost.localdomain>

Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> wrote:

> On Gwe, 2004-10-15 at 15:22, Andi Kleen wrote:
> > > There is exactly that in 2.6 - the hotplug interfaces allow the kernel
> > > to fire off userspace programs. Jon Smirl (who you should definitely
> > > talk to about this stuff) has been hammering out a design for moving
> > > almost all the mode switching into user space for kernel video.
> > 
> > The problem is that this would imply that the console would only
> > work after user space is running. Even with initrd that's quite late.
> 
> It doesn't imply this at all. You set an initial mode with the BIOS
> during boot up. When your initrd runs you gain the ability to flip mode
> and do cool stuff - arguably it doesn't even need to be in initrd.

That works great on x86, but this solution was developed for PowerPC and 
MIPS embedded systems development not x86 desktop systems. For those 
platforms you either need a boot loader that can bring up the system into 
graphics mode (possible with U-Boot) or to init the video right when the 
framebuffer console driver is brought up.

>From the sound of it that might be too early to spawn a user mode 
process?

Regards,

---
Kendall Bennett
Chief Executive Officer
SciTech Software, Inc.
Phone: (530) 894 8400
http://www.scitechsoft.com

~ SciTech SNAP - The future of device driver technology! ~



  reply	other threads:[~2004-10-15 18:23 UTC|newest]

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2004-10-15 14:22                         ` Generic VESA framebuffer driver and Video card BOOT? Andi Kleen
2004-10-15 14:33                           ` Alan Cox
2004-10-15 18:20                             ` Kendall Bennett [this message]
2004-10-15 18:39                               ` Alan Cox
2004-10-15 22:27                                 ` Kendall Bennett
2004-10-15 23:34                                   ` Alan Cox
2004-10-16  1:07                                   ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-10-21 11:59                                   ` Pavel Machek
2004-10-18 11:44                               ` Martin Waitz
2004-10-18 19:43                                 ` Kendall Bennett
2004-10-19 17:01                                   ` Martin Waitz
2004-10-19 17:54                                     ` Kendall Bennett
2004-10-15 15:37                           ` Gerd Knorr
2004-10-16  0:55                             ` Andi Kleen
2004-10-16 12:21                               ` Gerd Knorr
2004-10-21  4:03 Yu, Luming
2004-10-21  4:03 ` Yu, Luming
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-10-16  1:50 [Linux-fbdev-devel] " Antonino A. Daplas
2004-10-16  2:03 ` Jon Smirl
2004-10-18 19:34   ` Kendall Bennett
2004-10-18 20:34     ` Richard Smith
2004-10-18 21:16       ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] " Jon Smirl
2004-10-18 22:34         ` Richard Smith
2004-10-18 23:28           ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] " Jon Smirl
2004-10-19  0:18             ` Richard Smith
2004-10-19  0:55         ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] " Kendall Bennett
2004-10-19  1:39           ` Richard Smith
2004-10-19 17:54             ` Kendall Bennett
2004-10-19 21:48           ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] " Pavel Machek
2004-10-20 17:01             ` Kendall Bennett
2004-10-20 19:08               ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] " Pavel Machek
2004-10-21 19:36                 ` Kendall Bennett
     [not found] <2PjiW-3hl-21@gated-at.bofh.it>
2004-10-14 20:03 ` Andi Kleen
2004-10-14 20:46   ` Kendall Bennett
2004-10-15 12:39     ` Alan Cox
2004-10-15 18:20       ` Kendall Bennett
2004-10-15 18:41         ` Alan Cox
2004-10-15 20:19         ` Jon Smirl
2004-10-15 22:22           ` Kendall Bennett
2004-10-15 22:22             ` Kendall Bennett
2004-10-15 23:02             ` Jon Smirl
2004-10-19 21:09               ` Pavel Machek
2004-10-20 15:23     ` Paulo Marques
2004-10-20 17:27       ` Kendall Bennett
2004-10-14 19:02 Kendall Bennett
2004-10-14 19:59 ` Zachary Smith
2004-10-15 23:36   ` Ian Romanick
2004-10-14 20:48 ` Zachary Smith
2004-10-15 18:05   ` Kendall Bennett
2004-10-15 18:55     ` Zachary Smith
2004-10-15 19:18       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2004-10-15 22:22       ` Kendall Bennett
2004-10-15 12:05 ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] " Gerd Knorr
2004-10-15 12:38   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2004-10-15 13:13     ` Gerd Knorr
2004-10-17 12:07       ` Martin Waitz
2004-10-18  8:36         ` Gerd Knorr
2004-10-18 11:39           ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] " Martin Waitz
2004-10-18 12:10             ` Gerd Knorr
2004-10-15 18:29     ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] " Venkatesh Pallipadi
2004-10-16  9:01       ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-10-15 13:48 ` Helge Hafting
2004-10-15 13:48   ` Helge Hafting
2004-10-15 18:36   ` Kendall Bennett
2004-10-15 21:44     ` Helge Hafting
2004-10-15 22:12       ` Kendall Bennett
2004-10-16 17:44 ` Jon Smirl
2004-10-16 17:44   ` Jon Smirl
2004-10-19 21:00 ` Pavel Machek
2004-10-19 21:11 ` Pavel Machek

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