From: Ivan Gyurdiev <ivg2@cornell.edu>
To: Joshua Brindle <jbrindle@tresys.com>
Cc: Stephen Smalley <sds@tycho.nsa.gov>,
SELinux List <SELinux@tycho.nsa.gov>
Subject: Re: [ SEPOL ] Move more things to newer debug system
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 23:33:04 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <432799F0.7060706@cornell.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1126652637.30915.18.camel@twoface.columbia.tresys.com>
>If you have debug on-by-default it seems like you are really doing error
>handling. If this is the case we may need to consolidate these systems
>but error handling and debugging are hardly the same things.
>
>
Yes, I agree here - the DEBUG system is really doing error handling...
it detects an error condition, and informs the caller of what went wrong
at every level of
the function stack (at least that's how I use it in the user and port
functions). It has no effect
if there is no error condition. Perhaps it's a misnomer.
>iirc, as Steve mentioned, there are some thread safety issues with DEBUG
>and since both the userspace security server and the policy management
>server are threaded this could be problematic.
>
>
The issues are not with DEBUG - they're with the general principle
of library-wide debugging/error-messaging vs per-function error handling
(state object
passed by caller).
>The error system should be about passing descriptive messages to the
>caller and this needs to be done by passing a buffer to the functions
>that may return an error,
>
How do we pass such a buffer without rewriting the libsepol API?
DEBUG has the advantage of being backwards compatible.
> not be setting a function pointer to an
>arbitrary function in the frontend to handle error conditions.
>
>
That's an implementation detail that you don't like, because of the
semanage server.
It's not the core issue here - you could have the caller pass a callback
with argument (for thread id)
to be invoked on error just as easily as passing in a buffer.
The core of the problem is library-wide debugging without
caller-supplied state object.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-09-14 3:33 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-09-12 12:06 [ SEMANAGE ] Stub out user/port functionality Ivan Gyurdiev
2005-09-12 14:14 ` [ SEMANAGE ] Introduce record table Ivan Gyurdiev
2005-09-13 3:55 ` [ SEPOL ] Move more things to newer debug system Ivan Gyurdiev
2005-09-13 19:59 ` Stephen Smalley
2005-09-13 22:26 ` Ivan Gyurdiev
2005-09-13 23:03 ` Joshua Brindle
2005-09-14 3:33 ` Ivan Gyurdiev [this message]
2005-09-14 3:37 ` Ivan Gyurdiev
2005-09-14 13:16 ` Stephen Smalley
2005-09-14 14:05 ` Dale Amon
2005-09-14 18:07 ` Stephen Smalley
2005-09-14 23:44 ` Dale Amon
2005-09-14 7:00 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2005-09-14 12:11 ` Stephen Smalley
2005-09-14 7:01 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2005-09-14 13:00 ` Stephen Smalley
2005-09-14 13:21 ` Joshua Brindle
2005-09-14 13:51 ` Stephen Smalley
2005-09-14 14:45 ` Joshua Brindle
2005-09-14 15:04 ` Stephen Smalley
2005-09-14 15:26 ` info on SELinux support for IPSEC Prakash Saivasan
2005-09-14 18:20 ` Stephen Smalley
2005-09-14 15:33 ` [ SEPOL ] Move more things to newer debug system Joshua Brindle
2005-09-14 15:38 ` Stephen Smalley
2005-09-14 16:06 ` Joshua Brindle
2005-09-14 16:24 ` Stephen Smalley
2005-09-14 17:16 ` Ivan Gyurdiev
2005-09-14 17:21 ` Ivan Gyurdiev
2005-09-14 18:53 ` Stephen Smalley
2005-09-16 13:48 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2005-09-14 19:37 ` Ivan Gyurdiev
2005-09-14 19:50 ` Stephen Smalley
2005-09-14 20:01 ` Stephen Smalley
2005-09-14 20:32 ` Ivan Gyurdiev
2005-09-15 7:31 ` Ivan Gyurdiev
2005-09-15 12:22 ` Stephen Smalley
2005-09-15 13:01 ` Stephen Smalley
2005-09-15 15:17 ` Stephen Smalley
2005-09-15 16:03 ` Ivan Gyurdiev
2005-09-16 12:19 ` Stephen Smalley
2005-09-18 3:14 ` Ivan Gyurdiev
2005-09-16 13:45 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2005-09-16 13:55 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2005-09-18 3:16 ` Ivan Gyurdiev
2005-09-18 3:52 ` Ivan Gyurdiev
2005-09-18 15:45 ` Ivan Gyurdiev
2005-09-19 12:49 ` Stephen Smalley
2005-09-19 14:05 ` Ivan Gyurdiev
2005-09-19 14:45 ` Stephen Smalley
2005-09-19 16:24 ` Ivan Gyurdiev
2005-09-19 16:49 ` Stephen Smalley
2005-09-19 17:16 ` Ivan Gyurdiev
2005-09-19 18:26 ` Stephen Smalley
2005-09-14 19:57 ` Ivan Gyurdiev
2005-09-14 12:35 ` Stephen Smalley
2005-09-14 15:51 ` Stephen Smalley
2005-09-13 19:43 ` [ SEMANAGE ] Introduce record table Stephen Smalley
2005-09-13 22:15 ` Ivan Gyurdiev
2005-09-13 22:46 ` Ivan Gyurdiev
2005-09-14 15:46 ` Stephen Smalley
2005-09-14 15:45 ` [ SEMANAGE ] Stub out user/port functionality Stephen Smalley
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