From: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Cc: linux@horizon.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, sct@redhat.com
Subject: Re: msync() behaviour broken for MS_ASYNC, revert patch?
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 14:36:36 +1100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <43EC0A44.1020302@yahoo.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060209094815.75041932.akpm@osdl.org>
Andrew Morton wrote:
> Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>
>>Andrew Morton wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>Well, for example you might want to msync a number of disjoint parts of the
>>>mapping, then write them all out in one hit.
>>>
>>
>>That should still be pretty efficient with 2.4 like behaviour?
>
>
> It's a bit of a disaster if you happen to msync(MS_ASYNC) the same page at
> any sort of frequency - we have to wait for the previous I/O to complete
> before new I/O can be started. That was the main problem which caused this
> change to be made. You can see that it'd make 100x or 1000x speed improvements
> with some sane access patterns.
>
I'm not sure you'd have to do that, would you? Just move the dirty bit
from the pte and skip the page if it is found locked or writeback.
>
>>pdflush
>>does write them out in file offset order doesn't it?
>
>
> pdflush does, but an msync(MS_ASYNC) which starts I/O puts the IO order
> into the application's control.
>
I don't see a problem with that. There are plenty of ways to shoot oneself
in the foot.
>
>>>Or you may not actually _want_ to start the I/O now - you just want pdflush
>>>to write things back in a reasonable time period, so you don't have unsynced
>>>data floating about in memory for eight hours. That's a quite reasonable
>>>application of msync(MS_ASYNC).
>>>
>>
>>I think data integrity requirements should be handled by MS_SYNC.
>
>
> Well that's always been the case. MS_ASYNC doesn't write metadata.
>
>
So I don't understand your argument for using MS_ASYNC in that case.
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Thread overview: 95+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-02-09 7:18 msync() behaviour broken for MS_ASYNC, revert patch? linux
2006-02-09 8:18 ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-09 8:35 ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-09 8:42 ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-09 12:38 ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-09 12:39 ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-09 17:48 ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-10 3:36 ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2006-02-10 3:50 ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-10 3:57 ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-10 4:13 ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-10 4:30 ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-10 4:43 ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-10 4:52 ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-10 5:13 ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-10 5:29 ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-10 5:50 ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-10 6:03 ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-10 6:13 ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-10 6:31 ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-10 6:46 ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-10 6:57 ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-10 7:14 ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-10 12:41 ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-10 16:19 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-10 17:00 ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-10 17:12 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-10 17:35 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-10 17:59 ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-10 18:55 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-10 19:29 ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-10 19:44 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-10 19:52 ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-10 20:03 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-11 5:49 ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-10 16:05 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-10 16:37 ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-10 17:03 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-10 17:37 ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-10 18:01 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-10 18:38 ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-10 19:05 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-10 19:34 ` Oliver Neukum
2006-02-10 19:59 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-10 20:11 ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-10 21:15 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-10 21:28 ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-10 20:03 ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-10 21:10 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-10 21:55 ` Trond Myklebust
2006-02-10 22:46 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-10 23:02 ` Trond Myklebust
2006-02-10 23:15 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-11 19:07 ` Trond Myklebust
2006-02-10 17:29 ` linux
2006-02-10 17:42 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-10 18:57 ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-10 8:00 ` linux
2006-02-10 13:18 ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-10 7:15 ` linux
2006-02-10 7:28 ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-09 11:18 ` linux
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-03-31 22:16 Stephen C. Tweedie
2004-03-31 22:37 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-03-31 22:37 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-03-31 23:41 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2004-03-31 23:41 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2004-04-01 0:08 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-04-01 0:08 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-04-01 0:30 ` Andrew Morton
2004-04-01 0:30 ` Andrew Morton
2004-04-01 15:40 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2004-04-01 15:40 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2004-04-01 16:02 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-04-01 16:02 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-04-01 16:33 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2004-04-01 16:33 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2004-04-01 16:19 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-04-01 16:19 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-04-01 16:57 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2004-04-01 16:57 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2004-04-01 18:51 ` Andrew Morton
2004-04-01 18:51 ` Andrew Morton
2004-03-31 22:53 ` Andrew Morton
2004-03-31 22:53 ` Andrew Morton
2004-03-31 23:20 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2004-03-31 23:20 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2004-04-16 22:35 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-04-16 22:35 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-04-19 21:54 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2004-04-19 21:54 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2004-04-21 2:10 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-04-21 2:10 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-04-21 9:52 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2004-04-21 9:52 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
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