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From: Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>
To: "Stephen C. Tweedie" <sct@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Ulrich Drepper <drepper@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: msync() behaviour broken for MS_ASYNC, revert patch?
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 03:10:10 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040421021010.GC23621@mail.shareable.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1082411657.2237.128.camel@sisko.scot.redhat.com>

Stephen C. Tweedie wrote:
> > If so, what was the change?
> 
> 2.4.9 behaved like current 2.6 --- on MS_ASYNC, it did a
> set_page_dirty() which means the page will get picked up by the next
> 5-second bdflush pass.  But later 2.4 kernels were changed so that they
> started MS_ASYNC IO immediately with filemap_fdatasync() (which is
> asynchronous regarding the new IO, but which blocks synchronously if
> there is already old IO in flight on the page.)
> 
> That was reverted back to the earlier, 2.4.9 behaviour in the 2.5
> series.

It was 2.5.68.

Thanks, that's very helpful.

msync(0) has always had behaviour consistent with the <=2.4.9 and
>=2.5.68 MS_ASYNC behaviour, is that right?

If so, programs may as well "#define MS_ASYNC 0" on Linux, to get well
defined and consistent behaviour.  It would be nice to change the
definition in libc to zero, but I don't think it's possible because
msync(MS_SYNC|MS_ASYNC) needs to fail.

-- Jamie

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From: Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>
To: "Stephen C. Tweedie" <sct@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Ulrich Drepper <drepper@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: msync() behaviour broken for MS_ASYNC, revert patch?
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 03:10:10 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040421021010.GC23621@mail.shareable.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1082411657.2237.128.camel@sisko.scot.redhat.com>

Stephen C. Tweedie wrote:
> > If so, what was the change?
> 
> 2.4.9 behaved like current 2.6 --- on MS_ASYNC, it did a
> set_page_dirty() which means the page will get picked up by the next
> 5-second bdflush pass.  But later 2.4 kernels were changed so that they
> started MS_ASYNC IO immediately with filemap_fdatasync() (which is
> asynchronous regarding the new IO, but which blocks synchronously if
> there is already old IO in flight on the page.)
> 
> That was reverted back to the earlier, 2.4.9 behaviour in the 2.5
> series.

It was 2.5.68.

Thanks, that's very helpful.

msync(0) has always had behaviour consistent with the <=2.4.9 and
>=2.5.68 MS_ASYNC behaviour, is that right?

If so, programs may as well "#define MS_ASYNC 0" on Linux, to get well
defined and consistent behaviour.  It would be nice to change the
definition in libc to zero, but I don't think it's possible because
msync(MS_SYNC|MS_ASYNC) needs to fail.

-- Jamie
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  reply	other threads:[~2004-04-21  2:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 97+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-03-31 22:16 msync() behaviour broken for MS_ASYNC, revert patch? Stephen C. Tweedie
2004-03-31 22:37 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-03-31 22:37   ` Linus Torvalds
2004-03-31 23:41   ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2004-03-31 23:41     ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2004-04-01  0:08     ` Linus Torvalds
2004-04-01  0:08       ` Linus Torvalds
2004-04-01  0:30       ` Andrew Morton
2004-04-01  0:30         ` Andrew Morton
2004-04-01 15:40       ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2004-04-01 15:40         ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2004-04-01 16:02         ` Linus Torvalds
2004-04-01 16:02           ` Linus Torvalds
2004-04-01 16:33           ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2004-04-01 16:33             ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2004-04-01 16:19         ` Jamie Lokier
2004-04-01 16:19           ` Jamie Lokier
2004-04-01 16:56           ` s390 storage key inconsistency? [was Re: msync() behaviour broken for MS_ASYNC, revert patch?] Stephen C. Tweedie
2004-04-01 16:56             ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2004-04-01 16:57           ` msync() behaviour broken for MS_ASYNC, revert patch? Stephen C. Tweedie
2004-04-01 16:57             ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2004-04-01 18:51         ` Andrew Morton
2004-04-01 18:51           ` Andrew Morton
2004-03-31 22:53 ` Andrew Morton
2004-03-31 22:53   ` Andrew Morton
2004-03-31 23:20   ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2004-03-31 23:20     ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2004-04-16 22:35 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-04-16 22:35   ` Jamie Lokier
2004-04-19 21:54   ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2004-04-19 21:54     ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2004-04-21  2:10     ` Jamie Lokier [this message]
2004-04-21  2:10       ` Jamie Lokier
2004-04-21  9:52       ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2004-04-21  9:52         ` Stephen C. Tweedie
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-02-09  7:18 linux
2006-02-09  8:18 ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-09  8:35   ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-09  8:42     ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-09 12:38       ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-09 12:39       ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-09 17:48         ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-10  3:36           ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-10  3:50             ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-10  3:57               ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-10  4:13                 ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-10  4:30                   ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-10  4:43                     ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-10  4:52                       ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-10  5:13                         ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-10  5:29                           ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-10  5:50                             ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-10  6:03                               ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-10  6:13                                 ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-10  6:31                                   ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-10  6:46                                     ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-10  6:57                                       ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-10  7:14                                         ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-10 12:41                                           ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-10 16:19                                             ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-10 17:00                                               ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-10 17:12                                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-10 17:35                                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-10 17:59                                                   ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-10 18:55                                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-10 19:29                                                       ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-10 19:44                                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-10 19:52                                                           ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-10 20:03                                                             ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-11  5:49                                                               ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-10 16:05                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-10 16:37                                           ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-10 17:03                                             ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-10 17:37                                               ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-10 18:01                                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-10 18:38                                                   ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-10 19:05                                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-10 19:34                                                       ` Oliver Neukum
2006-02-10 19:59                                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-10 20:11                                                           ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-10 21:15                                                             ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-10 21:28                                                               ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-10 20:03                                                       ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-10 21:10                                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-10 21:55                                                           ` Trond Myklebust
2006-02-10 22:46                                                             ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-10 23:02                                                               ` Trond Myklebust
2006-02-10 23:15                                                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-11 19:07                                                                   ` Trond Myklebust
2006-02-10 17:29                                           ` linux
2006-02-10 17:42                                             ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-10 18:57                                               ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-10  8:00                                       ` linux
2006-02-10 13:18                                         ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-10  7:15                   ` linux
2006-02-10  7:28                     ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-09 11:18   ` linux

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