From: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Cc: linux@horizon.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, sct@redhat.com
Subject: Re: msync() behaviour broken for MS_ASYNC, revert patch?
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 16:29:21 +1100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <43EC24B1.9010104@yahoo.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060209211356.6c3a641a.akpm@osdl.org>
Andrew Morton wrote:
> Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>
>>If you want to start the IO *now* without waiting on it, call msync(MS_ASYNC)
>> If you don't want to start the IO now, that's really easy, do nothing.
>> If you want to start the IO now and also wait for it to finish, call msync(MS_SYNC)
>
>
> I've already explained the problems with the start-io-in-MS_ASYNC approach.
>
But I've explained that they only matter for people using it in stupid ways.
fsync also poses a performance problem for programs that call it after every
write(2).
>
>> Presently, the first option is unavailable.
>
>
> We need to patch the kernel either way. There's no point in going back to
> either the known-problematic approach or to something half-assed.
>
The system call indicates to the kernel that IO submission should be started.
The earlier the kernel does that, the better (because it is likely that an
MS_SYNC is coming soon).
I think the current way of just moving the dirty bits is half-assed.
Is a more efficient implementation know-problematic? What applications did
you observe problems with, can you remember? Because the current behaviour
is also known-problematic for linux@horizon.com (who are you anyway?)
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-02-10 5:29 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 95+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-02-09 7:18 msync() behaviour broken for MS_ASYNC, revert patch? linux
2006-02-09 8:18 ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-09 8:35 ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-09 8:42 ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-09 12:38 ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-09 12:39 ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-09 17:48 ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-10 3:36 ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-10 3:50 ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-10 3:57 ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-10 4:13 ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-10 4:30 ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-10 4:43 ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-10 4:52 ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-10 5:13 ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-10 5:29 ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2006-02-10 5:50 ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-10 6:03 ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-10 6:13 ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-10 6:31 ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-10 6:46 ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-10 6:57 ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-10 7:14 ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-10 12:41 ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-10 16:19 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-10 17:00 ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-10 17:12 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-10 17:35 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-10 17:59 ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-10 18:55 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-10 19:29 ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-10 19:44 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-10 19:52 ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-10 20:03 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-11 5:49 ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-10 16:05 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-10 16:37 ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-10 17:03 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-10 17:37 ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-10 18:01 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-10 18:38 ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-10 19:05 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-10 19:34 ` Oliver Neukum
2006-02-10 19:59 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-10 20:11 ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-10 21:15 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-10 21:28 ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-10 20:03 ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-10 21:10 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-10 21:55 ` Trond Myklebust
2006-02-10 22:46 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-10 23:02 ` Trond Myklebust
2006-02-10 23:15 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-11 19:07 ` Trond Myklebust
2006-02-10 17:29 ` linux
2006-02-10 17:42 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-10 18:57 ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-10 8:00 ` linux
2006-02-10 13:18 ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-10 7:15 ` linux
2006-02-10 7:28 ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-09 11:18 ` linux
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-03-31 22:16 Stephen C. Tweedie
2004-03-31 22:37 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-03-31 22:37 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-03-31 23:41 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2004-03-31 23:41 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2004-04-01 0:08 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-04-01 0:08 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-04-01 0:30 ` Andrew Morton
2004-04-01 0:30 ` Andrew Morton
2004-04-01 15:40 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2004-04-01 15:40 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2004-04-01 16:02 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-04-01 16:02 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-04-01 16:33 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2004-04-01 16:33 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2004-04-01 16:19 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-04-01 16:19 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-04-01 16:57 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2004-04-01 16:57 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2004-04-01 18:51 ` Andrew Morton
2004-04-01 18:51 ` Andrew Morton
2004-03-31 22:53 ` Andrew Morton
2004-03-31 22:53 ` Andrew Morton
2004-03-31 23:20 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2004-03-31 23:20 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2004-04-16 22:35 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-04-16 22:35 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-04-19 21:54 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2004-04-19 21:54 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2004-04-21 2:10 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-04-21 2:10 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-04-21 9:52 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2004-04-21 9:52 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
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