From: Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@suse.de>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: virtualization <virtualization@lists.osdl.org>,
Jan Beulich <jbeulich@novell.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Roland McGrath <roland@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: Xen & VMI?
Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2007 10:15:13 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <45ED3121.8090308@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070306085222.GA17002@elte.hu>
Ingo Molnar wrote:
> * Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@suse.de> wrote:
>
>>> [using vmi rom]
>> IIRC there was some proof-of-concept at least for xen guests.
>
> yes - but de-facto contradicted by the Xen paravirt_ops patches sent to
> lkml ;)
Yep. The fact that it is possible to do that doesn't imply that it is
the best solution.
Oh, and btw: What was the reason why kvm paravirtualization doesn't use
the vmi interface?
>>> the QA matrix is gonna be a _mess_.
>> I fail to see how xen-via-vmirom instead of xen-via-paravirt_ops
>> reduces the QA effort. You still have 5 Hypervisors you have to test
>> against.
>
> yes, just like we have thousands of separate PC boards to support. But
> as long as the basic ABI is the same, the QA effort on the Linux kernel
> side is alot more focused.
xen and vmware are still two very different hypervisors from the memory
mangement point of view. I doubt moving the abstraction line within the
linux kernel from paravirt_ops to vmi makes QA easier.
cheers,
Gerd
--
Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@suse.de>
WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@suse.de>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>,
virtualization <virtualization@lists.osdl.org>,
Jan Beulich <jbeulich@novell.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Roland McGrath <roland@redhat.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Xen & VMI?
Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2007 10:15:13 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <45ED3121.8090308@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070306085222.GA17002@elte.hu>
Ingo Molnar wrote:
> * Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@suse.de> wrote:
>
>>> [using vmi rom]
>> IIRC there was some proof-of-concept at least for xen guests.
>
> yes - but de-facto contradicted by the Xen paravirt_ops patches sent to
> lkml ;)
Yep. The fact that it is possible to do that doesn't imply that it is
the best solution.
Oh, and btw: What was the reason why kvm paravirtualization doesn't use
the vmi interface?
>>> the QA matrix is gonna be a _mess_.
>> I fail to see how xen-via-vmirom instead of xen-via-paravirt_ops
>> reduces the QA effort. You still have 5 Hypervisors you have to test
>> against.
>
> yes, just like we have thousands of separate PC boards to support. But
> as long as the basic ABI is the same, the QA effort on the Linux kernel
> side is alot more focused.
xen and vmware are still two very different hypervisors from the memory
mangement point of view. I doubt moving the abstraction line within the
linux kernel from paravirt_ops to vmi makes QA easier.
cheers,
Gerd
--
Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@suse.de>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-03-06 9:15 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 123+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-03-05 12:06 [patch] paravirt: VDSO page is essential Ingo Molnar
2007-03-05 12:36 ` Avi Kivity
2007-03-05 12:40 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-05 13:00 ` Avi Kivity
2007-03-05 13:32 ` Rusty Russell
2007-03-05 14:28 ` Andi Kleen
2007-03-05 13:48 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-05 14:58 ` Andi Kleen
2007-03-05 13:59 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-05 14:10 ` Avi Kivity
2007-03-05 14:10 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-05 13:28 ` Rusty Russell
2007-03-05 13:38 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-05 14:34 ` Andi Kleen
2007-03-05 13:46 ` [patch] paravirt: re-enable COMPAT_VDSO Ingo Molnar
2007-03-05 13:48 ` [patch] paravirt: VDSO page is essential Ingo Molnar
2007-03-05 20:11 ` Zachary Amsden
2007-03-05 20:11 ` Zachary Amsden
2007-03-05 20:16 ` Andi Kleen
2007-03-05 20:33 ` Zachary Amsden
2007-03-05 20:19 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-05 20:19 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-05 20:42 ` Zachary Amsden
2007-03-05 20:42 ` Zachary Amsden
2007-03-06 0:57 ` Rusty Russell
2007-03-06 1:03 ` Zachary Amsden
2007-03-06 1:11 ` Rusty Russell
2007-03-06 1:11 ` Rusty Russell
2007-03-06 1:14 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-06 1:51 ` Zachary Amsden
2007-03-06 1:53 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-06 1:53 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-06 8:19 ` Xen & VMI? Ingo Molnar
2007-03-06 8:19 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-06 8:37 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2007-03-06 8:48 ` Zachary Amsden
2007-03-06 8:52 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-06 8:52 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-06 9:03 ` Zachary Amsden
2007-03-06 9:03 ` Zachary Amsden
2007-03-06 9:10 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-06 9:10 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-06 9:15 ` Gerd Hoffmann [this message]
2007-03-06 9:15 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2007-03-06 9:34 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-06 10:15 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2007-03-06 10:15 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2007-03-06 10:26 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-06 10:26 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-06 11:04 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2007-03-06 11:59 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-06 12:34 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2007-03-06 15:03 ` Anthony Liguori
2007-03-06 15:03 ` Anthony Liguori
2007-03-06 17:17 ` Nakajima, Jun
2007-03-06 17:17 ` Nakajima, Jun
2007-03-06 17:32 ` Anthony Liguori
2007-03-06 20:37 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-06 21:02 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-06 21:02 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-06 21:11 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-06 21:11 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-06 21:13 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-06 21:13 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-06 21:20 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-06 21:20 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-06 21:46 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-06 21:46 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-06 21:35 ` Nakajima, Jun
2007-03-06 21:35 ` Nakajima, Jun
2007-03-07 0:44 ` Rusty Russell
2007-03-07 0:54 ` Anthony Liguori
2007-03-07 0:54 ` Anthony Liguori
2007-03-07 3:06 ` Zachary Amsden
2007-03-07 8:15 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-07 8:15 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-07 9:17 ` Zachary Amsden
2007-03-07 11:15 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-07 19:14 ` Dan Hecht
2007-03-06 16:27 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-06 17:11 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-06 17:33 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-07 2:16 ` Zachary Amsden
2007-03-07 2:16 ` Zachary Amsden
2007-03-06 9:55 ` Avi Kivity
2007-03-06 10:23 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2007-03-06 10:31 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-06 19:46 ` Chris Wright
2007-03-06 19:46 ` Chris Wright
2007-03-06 20:30 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-06 20:30 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-06 20:53 ` Chris Wright
2007-03-06 21:03 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-06 21:03 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-06 21:28 ` Chris Wright
2007-03-06 21:28 ` Chris Wright
2007-03-07 2:35 ` Zachary Amsden
2007-03-07 2:35 ` Zachary Amsden
2007-03-06 9:07 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-06 9:07 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-06 9:26 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-06 9:26 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-06 16:42 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-06 16:42 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-06 17:18 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-06 17:18 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-06 18:04 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-06 18:04 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-06 7:35 ` [patch] paravirt: VDSO page is essential Ingo Molnar
2007-03-06 7:35 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-06 7:42 ` Zachary Amsden
2007-03-06 7:50 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-06 7:50 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-06 18:48 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-06 18:48 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-05 14:27 ` Andi Kleen
2007-03-05 21:58 ` Roland McGrath
2007-03-05 22:01 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-05 22:58 ` Roland McGrath
2007-03-05 23:03 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-06 8:34 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-06 9:13 ` Roland McGrath
2007-03-06 9:14 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=45ED3121.8090308@suse.de \
--to=kraxel@suse.de \
--cc=akpm@linux-foundation.org \
--cc=jbeulich@novell.com \
--cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=mingo@elte.hu \
--cc=roland@redhat.com \
--cc=torvalds@linux-foundation.org \
--cc=virtualization@lists.osdl.org \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
This is an external index of several public inboxes,
see mirroring instructions on how to clone and mirror
all data and code used by this external index.