From: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 18/20] clocksource / acpi: Add macro CLOCKSOURCE_ACPI_DECLARE
Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2014 16:47:28 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4603592.X6dscGmyfO@wuerfel> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140122151749.GA1519@e106331-lin.cambridge.arm.com>
On Wednesday 22 January 2014 15:17:49 Mark Rutland wrote:
> Except for the fact that some timers / clocksources that we already have
> in 32-bit land will likely be reused in 64-bit SoC designs. People will
> want to use the same driver for both 32-bit and 64-bit kernels, and thus
> we need CLOCKSOURCE_OF_DECLARE in 64-bit kernels.
>
> Those platforms which will have ACPI will likely reuse existing timer IP
> blocks, and will want to make minimal changes to the driver, which will
> likely be using CLOCKSOURCE_OF_DECLARE. We can't change these to
> platform drivers or we can break existing systems because the timers
> will be registered too late.
>
> I don't see how we can share drivers between 32-bit and 64-bit kernels
> without sharing a common driver model, and I think it makes sense to
> have some uniformity across drivers (i.e. always use
> CLOCKSOURCE_*_DECLARE rather than sometimes using platform drivers).
This still sounds like speculation. I would defer this change until
we actually have a platform that needs it.
The platforms that would reuse a lot of IP blocks are most likely
embedded systems and /not/ server hardware following some strict
specification, so they wouldn't use ACPI.
Arnd
WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: arnd@arndb.de (Arnd Bergmann)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH 18/20] clocksource / acpi: Add macro CLOCKSOURCE_ACPI_DECLARE
Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2014 16:47:28 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4603592.X6dscGmyfO@wuerfel> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140122151749.GA1519@e106331-lin.cambridge.arm.com>
On Wednesday 22 January 2014 15:17:49 Mark Rutland wrote:
> Except for the fact that some timers / clocksources that we already have
> in 32-bit land will likely be reused in 64-bit SoC designs. People will
> want to use the same driver for both 32-bit and 64-bit kernels, and thus
> we need CLOCKSOURCE_OF_DECLARE in 64-bit kernels.
>
> Those platforms which will have ACPI will likely reuse existing timer IP
> blocks, and will want to make minimal changes to the driver, which will
> likely be using CLOCKSOURCE_OF_DECLARE. We can't change these to
> platform drivers or we can break existing systems because the timers
> will be registered too late.
>
> I don't see how we can share drivers between 32-bit and 64-bit kernels
> without sharing a common driver model, and I think it makes sense to
> have some uniformity across drivers (i.e. always use
> CLOCKSOURCE_*_DECLARE rather than sometimes using platform drivers).
This still sounds like speculation. I would defer this change until
we actually have a platform that needs it.
The platforms that would reuse a lot of IP blocks are most likely
embedded systems and /not/ server hardware following some strict
specification, so they wouldn't use ACPI.
Arnd
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-01-22 15:47 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 213+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-01-17 12:24 [PATCH 00/20] Make ACPI core running on ARM64 Hanjun Guo
2014-01-17 12:24 ` Hanjun Guo
2014-01-17 12:24 ` [PATCH 01/20] ARM64 / ACPI: Make PCI optional for ACPI " Hanjun Guo
2014-01-17 12:24 ` Hanjun Guo
2014-01-17 16:00 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2014-01-17 16:00 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2014-01-17 16:00 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2014-01-20 9:33 ` Hanjun Guo
2014-01-20 9:33 ` Hanjun Guo
2014-01-20 9:33 ` Hanjun Guo
2014-01-17 12:24 ` [PATCH 02/20] ARM64 : Add dummy asm/cpu.h Hanjun Guo
2014-01-17 12:24 ` Hanjun Guo
2014-01-17 14:22 ` Sudeep Holla
2014-01-17 14:22 ` Sudeep Holla
2014-01-17 14:22 ` Sudeep Holla
2014-01-20 8:58 ` Hanjun Guo
2014-01-20 8:58 ` Hanjun Guo
2014-01-20 8:58 ` Hanjun Guo
2014-01-23 16:15 ` Catalin Marinas
2014-01-23 16:15 ` Catalin Marinas
2014-01-23 16:15 ` Catalin Marinas
2014-01-24 14:41 ` Hanjun Guo
2014-01-24 14:41 ` Hanjun Guo
2014-01-24 14:41 ` Hanjun Guo
2014-01-17 12:24 ` [PATCH 03/20] ARM64 / ACPI: Introduce the skeleton of _PDC related for ARM64 Hanjun Guo
2014-01-17 12:24 ` Hanjun Guo
2014-01-17 14:25 ` Sudeep Holla
2014-01-17 14:25 ` Sudeep Holla
2014-01-20 9:20 ` Hanjun Guo
2014-01-20 9:20 ` Hanjun Guo
2014-01-20 9:20 ` Hanjun Guo
2014-01-23 16:19 ` Catalin Marinas
2014-01-23 16:19 ` Catalin Marinas
2014-01-23 16:19 ` Catalin Marinas
2014-01-24 14:43 ` Hanjun Guo
2014-01-24 14:43 ` Hanjun Guo
2014-01-24 14:43 ` Hanjun Guo
2014-01-23 18:03 ` Catalin Marinas
2014-01-23 18:03 ` Catalin Marinas
2014-01-23 18:03 ` Catalin Marinas
2014-01-24 15:35 ` Hanjun Guo
2014-01-24 15:35 ` Hanjun Guo
2014-01-24 15:35 ` Hanjun Guo
2014-01-17 12:24 ` [PATCH 04/20] ARM64 / ACPI: Introduce arm_core.c and its related head file Hanjun Guo
2014-01-17 12:24 ` Hanjun Guo
2014-01-17 14:12 ` Will Deacon
2014-01-17 14:12 ` Will Deacon
2014-01-17 14:12 ` Will Deacon
2014-01-18 4:05 ` Hanjun Guo
2014-01-18 4:05 ` Hanjun Guo
2014-01-18 4:05 ` Hanjun Guo
2014-01-17 16:56 ` Sudeep Holla
2014-01-17 16:56 ` Sudeep Holla
2014-01-20 12:26 ` Hanjun Guo
2014-01-20 12:26 ` Hanjun Guo
2014-01-20 12:26 ` Hanjun Guo
2014-01-22 11:54 ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2014-01-22 11:54 ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2014-01-22 11:54 ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2014-01-23 15:56 ` [Linaro-acpi] " Tomasz Nowicki
2014-01-23 15:56 ` Tomasz Nowicki
2014-01-24 9:09 ` Hanjun Guo
2014-01-24 9:09 ` Hanjun Guo
2014-01-24 12:53 ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2014-01-24 12:53 ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2014-01-24 16:44 ` Tomasz Nowicki
2014-01-24 16:44 ` Tomasz Nowicki
2014-01-17 12:24 ` [PATCH 05/20] ARM64 / ACPI: Introduce lowlevel suspend function Hanjun Guo
2014-01-17 12:24 ` Hanjun Guo
2014-01-17 12:25 ` [PATCH 06/20] ARM64 / ACPI: Introduce some PCI functions when PCI is enabled Hanjun Guo
2014-01-17 12:25 ` Hanjun Guo
2014-01-17 14:04 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-01-17 14:04 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-01-20 8:08 ` Hanjun Guo
2014-01-20 8:08 ` Hanjun Guo
2014-01-20 8:20 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-01-20 8:20 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-01-20 14:13 ` Hanjun Guo
2014-01-20 14:13 ` Hanjun Guo
2014-01-20 18:39 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-01-20 18:39 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-01-20 18:39 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-01-21 3:40 ` Hanjun Guo
2014-01-21 3:40 ` Hanjun Guo
2014-01-17 12:25 ` [PATCH 07/20] ARM64 / ACPI: Enable ARM64 in Kconfig Hanjun Guo
2014-01-17 12:25 ` Hanjun Guo
2014-01-17 14:34 ` Sudeep Holla
2014-01-17 14:34 ` Sudeep Holla
2014-01-20 9:30 ` Hanjun Guo
2014-01-20 9:30 ` Hanjun Guo
2014-01-20 9:30 ` Hanjun Guo
2014-01-23 16:39 ` Catalin Marinas
2014-01-23 16:39 ` Catalin Marinas
2014-01-23 16:39 ` Catalin Marinas
2014-01-24 14:45 ` Hanjun Guo
2014-01-24 14:45 ` Hanjun Guo
2014-01-24 14:45 ` Hanjun Guo
2014-01-17 12:25 ` [PATCH 08/20] ARM64 / ACPI: Select ACPI_REDUCED_HARDWARE_ONLY if ACPI is enabled on ARM64 Hanjun Guo
2014-01-17 12:25 ` Hanjun Guo
2014-01-17 12:25 ` [PATCH 09/20] ARM64 / ACPI: Implement core functions for parsing MADT table Hanjun Guo
2014-01-17 12:25 ` Hanjun Guo
2014-01-17 14:12 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-01-17 14:12 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-01-20 8:49 ` Hanjun Guo
2014-01-20 8:49 ` Hanjun Guo
2014-01-23 17:54 ` Marc Zyngier
2014-01-23 17:54 ` Marc Zyngier
2014-01-23 17:54 ` Marc Zyngier
2014-01-24 15:34 ` Hanjun Guo
2014-01-24 15:34 ` Hanjun Guo
2014-01-24 15:34 ` Hanjun Guo
2014-01-24 20:57 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-01-24 20:57 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-01-24 20:57 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-01-17 12:25 ` [PATCH 10/20] ARM64 / ACPI: Enumerate possible/present CPU set and map logical cpu id to APIC id Hanjun Guo
2014-01-17 12:25 ` Hanjun Guo
2014-01-17 17:37 ` Sudeep Holla
2014-01-17 17:37 ` Sudeep Holla
2014-01-20 14:00 ` Hanjun Guo
2014-01-20 14:00 ` Hanjun Guo
2014-01-20 14:00 ` Hanjun Guo
2014-01-22 15:53 ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2014-01-22 15:53 ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2014-01-22 15:53 ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2014-01-24 14:37 ` Hanjun Guo
2014-01-24 14:37 ` Hanjun Guo
2014-01-24 14:37 ` Hanjun Guo
2014-01-24 15:35 ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2014-01-24 15:35 ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2014-01-24 15:35 ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2014-01-24 16:02 ` Hanjun Guo
2014-01-24 16:02 ` Hanjun Guo
2014-01-24 16:02 ` Hanjun Guo
2014-01-17 12:25 ` [PATCH 11/20] ARM64 / ACPI: Get the enable method for SMP initialization Hanjun Guo
2014-01-17 12:25 ` Hanjun Guo
2014-01-23 17:50 ` Catalin Marinas
2014-01-23 17:50 ` Catalin Marinas
2014-01-24 14:57 ` Hanjun Guo
2014-01-24 14:57 ` Hanjun Guo
2014-01-24 14:57 ` Hanjun Guo
2014-01-17 12:25 ` [PATCH 12/20] ARM64 / ACPI: Use Parked Address in GIC structure for spin table SMP initialisation Hanjun Guo
2014-01-17 12:25 ` Hanjun Guo
2014-01-17 14:15 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-01-17 14:15 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-01-17 14:35 ` Tomasz Nowicki
2014-01-17 14:35 ` Tomasz Nowicki
2014-01-17 12:25 ` [PATCH 13/20] ARM64 / ACPI: Define ACPI_IRQ_MODEL_GIC needed for arm Hanjun Guo
2014-01-17 12:25 ` Hanjun Guo
2014-01-17 12:25 ` [PATCH 14/20] Irqchip / gic: Set as default domain so we can access from ACPI Hanjun Guo
2014-01-17 12:25 ` Hanjun Guo
2014-01-17 12:25 ` [PATCH 15/20] ACPI / ARM64: Update acpi_register_gsi to register with the core IRQ subsystem Hanjun Guo
2014-01-17 12:25 ` Hanjun Guo
2014-01-17 12:25 ` =?yes?q?=5BPATCH=2016/20=5D=20ACPI=20/=20GIC=3A=20Initialize=20GIC=20using=20the=20information=20in=20MADT?= Hanjun Guo
2014-01-17 12:25 ` =?yes?q?=5BPATCH=2016/20=5D=20ACPI=20/=20GIC=3A=20Initialize=20GIC=20using=20the=20information=20in=20MADT?= Hanjun Guo
2014-01-17 12:25 ` [PATCH 17/20] clocksource / arch_timer: Use ACPI GTDT table to initialize arch timer Hanjun Guo
2014-01-17 12:25 ` Hanjun Guo
2014-01-27 11:26 ` Mark Rutland
2014-01-27 11:26 ` Mark Rutland
2014-01-27 11:26 ` Mark Rutland
2014-01-17 12:25 ` [PATCH 18/20] clocksource / acpi: Add macro CLOCKSOURCE_ACPI_DECLARE Hanjun Guo
2014-01-17 12:25 ` Hanjun Guo
2014-01-17 14:21 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-01-17 14:21 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-01-20 9:08 ` Hanjun Guo
2014-01-20 9:08 ` Hanjun Guo
2014-01-22 11:46 ` Mark Rutland
2014-01-22 11:46 ` Mark Rutland
2014-01-22 11:46 ` Mark Rutland
2014-01-22 14:56 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-01-22 14:56 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-01-22 14:56 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-01-22 15:17 ` Mark Rutland
2014-01-22 15:17 ` Mark Rutland
2014-01-22 15:17 ` Mark Rutland
2014-01-22 15:47 ` Arnd Bergmann [this message]
2014-01-22 15:47 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-01-24 9:19 ` Hanjun Guo
2014-01-24 9:19 ` Hanjun Guo
2014-01-24 9:19 ` Hanjun Guo
2014-01-24 0:46 ` Hanjun Guo
2014-01-24 0:46 ` Hanjun Guo
2014-01-24 0:46 ` Hanjun Guo
2014-01-22 8:26 ` Linus Walleij
2014-01-22 8:26 ` Linus Walleij
2014-01-22 11:45 ` Mark Rutland
2014-01-22 11:45 ` Mark Rutland
2014-01-22 14:38 ` Linus Walleij
2014-01-22 14:38 ` Linus Walleij
2014-01-24 0:20 ` Hanjun Guo
2014-01-24 0:20 ` Hanjun Guo
2014-01-24 0:20 ` Hanjun Guo
2014-01-24 12:08 ` Mark Rutland
2014-01-24 12:08 ` Mark Rutland
2014-01-24 12:08 ` Mark Rutland
2014-01-24 15:15 ` Catalin Marinas
2014-01-24 15:15 ` Catalin Marinas
2014-01-24 15:15 ` Catalin Marinas
2014-01-24 15:44 ` Mark Rutland
2014-01-24 15:44 ` Mark Rutland
2014-01-24 15:53 ` Hanjun Guo
2014-01-24 15:53 ` Hanjun Guo
2014-01-24 0:12 ` Hanjun Guo
2014-01-24 0:12 ` Hanjun Guo
2014-01-24 0:12 ` Hanjun Guo
2014-01-24 12:32 ` Mark Rutland
2014-01-24 12:32 ` Mark Rutland
2014-01-24 15:45 ` Hanjun Guo
2014-01-24 15:45 ` Hanjun Guo
2014-01-24 15:45 ` Hanjun Guo
2014-01-17 12:25 ` [PATCH 19/20] clocksource / ACPI: Introduce clocksource_acpi_init() using CLOCKSOURCE_ACPI_DECLARE Hanjun Guo
2014-01-17 12:25 ` Hanjun Guo
2014-01-17 12:25 ` [PATCH 20/20] ARM64 / clocksource: Use clocksource_acpi_init() Hanjun Guo
2014-01-17 12:25 ` Hanjun Guo
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