From: Antoine Martin <antoine@nagafix.co.uk>
To: Jeff Dike <jdike@addtoit.com>
Cc: Blaisorblade <blaisorblade@yahoo.it>,
devzero@web.de, user-mode-linux-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [uml-devel] [RFC] UML kernel & rootfs bundle with every kernel release ?
Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2007 11:21:43 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4610D937.20002@nagafix.co.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070402020530.GA589@c2.user-mode-linux.org>
Jeff Dike wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 01, 2007 at 08:58:45PM +0100, Antoine Martin wrote:
>> I reckon that one critical thing which could drastically increase the
>> user base would be to have a working virtual framebuffer implementation.
>
> Why? I've never understood what a framebuffer gives you that you
> don't have now.
Just like the network auto-configuration via dhcp, it would allow users
to download images+kernel and run them like appliances without
understanding anything about X or UML, just click and run.
We are all capable of setting up Xvfb here, but most users are not,
which is why they download ready-made images.
It would also make it a lot easier to focus on writing a management UI,
hell if there isn't one shortly after, I'll do one myself!
Think of a UML browser image (running IE via wine in a limited image
with just X + wine + IE - I would much prefer that to having wine+IE
installed locally), testing framebuffer apps like gtk-fb/cairo-fb
without risking your dev environment, etc...
Antoine
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From: Antoine Martin <antoine@nagafix.co.uk>
To: Jeff Dike <jdike@addtoit.com>
Cc: Blaisorblade <blaisorblade@yahoo.it>,
devzero@web.de, user-mode-linux-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [uml-devel] [RFC] UML kernel & rootfs bundle with every kernel release ?
Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2007 11:21:43 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4610D937.20002@nagafix.co.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070402020530.GA589@c2.user-mode-linux.org>
Jeff Dike wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 01, 2007 at 08:58:45PM +0100, Antoine Martin wrote:
>> I reckon that one critical thing which could drastically increase the
>> user base would be to have a working virtual framebuffer implementation.
>
> Why? I've never understood what a framebuffer gives you that you
> don't have now.
Just like the network auto-configuration via dhcp, it would allow users
to download images+kernel and run them like appliances without
understanding anything about X or UML, just click and run.
We are all capable of setting up Xvfb here, but most users are not,
which is why they download ready-made images.
It would also make it a lot easier to focus on writing a management UI,
hell if there isn't one shortly after, I'll do one myself!
Think of a UML browser image (running IE via wine in a limited image
with just X + wine + IE - I would much prefer that to having wine+IE
installed locally), testing framebuffer apps like gtk-fb/cairo-fb
without risking your dev environment, etc...
Antoine
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-04-02 10:21 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-03-31 22:58 [RFC] UML kernel & rootfs bundle with every kernel release ? devzero
2007-04-01 0:01 ` Parag Warudkar
2007-04-01 19:08 ` [uml-devel] " Blaisorblade
2007-04-01 19:08 ` Blaisorblade
2007-04-01 19:58 ` [uml-devel] " Antoine Martin
2007-04-01 19:58 ` Antoine Martin
2007-04-02 2:05 ` Jeff Dike
2007-04-02 2:05 ` Jeff Dike
2007-04-02 10:21 ` Antoine Martin [this message]
2007-04-02 10:21 ` Antoine Martin
2007-04-02 11:22 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2007-04-02 11:22 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2007-04-02 12:50 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2007-04-02 12:50 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2007-04-02 14:53 ` Jeff Dike
2007-04-02 14:53 ` Jeff Dike
2007-04-02 15:43 ` Antoine Martin
2007-04-02 15:43 ` Antoine Martin
2007-04-03 23:49 ` Antoine Martin
2007-04-03 23:49 ` Antoine Martin
2007-04-04 6:35 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2007-04-04 6:35 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2007-04-04 20:27 ` Antoine Martin
2007-04-04 20:27 ` Antoine Martin
2007-04-02 14:55 ` Jeff Dike
2007-04-02 14:55 ` Jeff Dike
2007-04-02 15:43 ` Antoine Martin
2007-04-02 15:43 ` Antoine Martin
2007-04-02 20:40 ` roland
2007-04-02 20:40 ` roland
2007-04-02 21:44 ` Jeff Dike
2007-04-02 21:44 ` Jeff Dike
2007-04-03 4:44 ` Jason Lunz
2007-04-03 4:44 ` Jason Lunz
2007-04-03 17:43 ` Blaisorblade
2007-04-03 17:43 ` Blaisorblade
2007-04-03 17:53 ` Antoine Martin
2007-04-03 17:53 ` Antoine Martin
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-04-03 8:28 roland
2007-04-03 18:01 ` Jason Lunz
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