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From: Wendy Cheng <wcheng@redhat.com>
To: cluster-devel.redhat.com
Subject: [NFS] [Cluster-devel] [PATCH 0/4 Revised] NLM - lock failover
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2007 23:55:27 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4632C5AF.7080500@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070427203444.GA28874@janus>

Frank van Maarseveen wrote:

>I'm quite interested in _any_ patch which would allow me to drop
>the locks obtained by NFS clients on a specific export, either by (1)
>"exportfs -uh" or by (2) "echo /some/path > /proc/fs/nfsd/nlm_drop_lock"
>as Neil mentioned.
>  
>
Thanks for commenting on this. Opinions from users who will eventually 
use these interfaces are always valued.

>[snip]
>
>
>I'd prefer (2) "echo /some/path > /proc/fs/nfsd/nlm_drop_lock" because:
>  
>
To convert the first patch of this submitted series from "fsid" to 
"/some/path" is a no-brainer, since we had gone thru several rounds of 
similar changes. However, my questions (it is more of a Neil's question) 
are, if I convert the first patch to do this,

1) then why do we still need the RPC drop-lock call in nfs-util ?
2) what should we do for the 2nd patch ? i.e., how do we communicate 
with the take-over server it is time for its action, by RPC call or by 
"echo /some/path > /proc/fs/nfsd/nlm_set_grace_or_whatever" ?

In general, I feel if we do this "/some/path" approach, we may as well 
simply convert the 2nd patch from "fsid" to "/some/path". Then we would 
finish this long journey.

-- Wendy

>- Tying the -h (drop locks) option to -u (unexport) is too restrictive IMO.
>  For one thing, there's a bug in the linux NFS client locking code (I
>  reported this earlier) which results in locks not being removed from
>  the server. It was not too difficult to reproduce and programs on the
>  client will wait forever due to this. To handle these kind of situations
>  I need (2) on the server.
>
>- (2) may be useful for other NFS server setups: it is inherently more
>  flexible.
>
>- (2) does not depend on nfs-utils. It's simpler.
>
>
>(*) virtual in this case means a UUID or IP based fsid= option and an
>additional IP address on eth0 per export entry, such, that it becomes
>possible to move an export entry + disk partition + local mount to
>different hardware without needing to remount it on all <large number>
>NFS clients.
>
>  
>



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From: Wendy Cheng <wcheng@redhat.com>
To: Frank van Maarseveen <frankvm@frankvm.com>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	cluster-devel@redhat.com, Jeff Layton <jlayton@redhat.com>,
	Neil Brown <neilb@suse.de>,
	"J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>,
	nfs@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Cluster-devel] [PATCH 0/4 Revised] NLM - lock failover
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2007 23:55:27 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4632C5AF.7080500@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070427203444.GA28874@janus>

Frank van Maarseveen wrote:

>I'm quite interested in _any_ patch which would allow me to drop
>the locks obtained by NFS clients on a specific export, either by (1)
>"exportfs -uh" or by (2) "echo /some/path > /proc/fs/nfsd/nlm_drop_lock"
>as Neil mentioned.
>  
>
Thanks for commenting on this. Opinions from users who will eventually 
use these interfaces are always valued.

>[snip]
>
>
>I'd prefer (2) "echo /some/path > /proc/fs/nfsd/nlm_drop_lock" because:
>  
>
To convert the first patch of this submitted series from "fsid" to 
"/some/path" is a no-brainer, since we had gone thru several rounds of 
similar changes. However, my questions (it is more of a Neil's question) 
are, if I convert the first patch to do this,

1) then why do we still need the RPC drop-lock call in nfs-util ?
2) what should we do for the 2nd patch ? i.e., how do we communicate 
with the take-over server it is time for its action, by RPC call or by 
"echo /some/path > /proc/fs/nfsd/nlm_set_grace_or_whatever" ?

In general, I feel if we do this "/some/path" approach, we may as well 
simply convert the 2nd patch from "fsid" to "/some/path". Then we would 
finish this long journey.

-- Wendy

>- Tying the -h (drop locks) option to -u (unexport) is too restrictive IMO.
>  For one thing, there's a bug in the linux NFS client locking code (I
>  reported this earlier) which results in locks not being removed from
>  the server. It was not too difficult to reproduce and programs on the
>  client will wait forever due to this. To handle these kind of situations
>  I need (2) on the server.
>
>- (2) may be useful for other NFS server setups: it is inherently more
>  flexible.
>
>- (2) does not depend on nfs-utils. It's simpler.
>
>
>(*) virtual in this case means a UUID or IP based fsid= option and an
>additional IP address on eth0 per export entry, such, that it becomes
>possible to move an export entry + disk partition + local mount to
>different hardware without needing to remount it on all <large number>
>NFS clients.
>
>  
>


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  reply	other threads:[~2007-04-28  3:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 83+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-04-05 21:50 [Cluster-devel] [PATCH 0/4 Revised] NLM - lock failover Wendy Cheng
2007-04-05 21:50 ` Wendy Cheng
2007-04-11 17:01 ` [Cluster-devel] Re: [NFS] " J. Bruce Fields
2007-04-11 17:01   ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-04-17 19:30 ` [Cluster-devel] " Wendy Cheng
2007-04-17 19:30   ` Wendy Cheng
2007-04-18 18:56   ` [Cluster-devel] " Wendy Cheng
2007-04-18 18:56     ` Wendy Cheng
2007-04-18 19:46     ` [Cluster-devel] " Wendy Cheng
2007-04-18 19:46       ` Wendy Cheng
2007-04-19 14:41     ` [Cluster-devel] Re: [NFS] " Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-19 14:41       ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-19 15:08       ` [Cluster-devel] Re: [NFS] " Wendy Cheng
2007-04-19 15:08         ` Wendy Cheng
     [not found]   ` <message from Wendy Cheng on Tuesday April 17>
2007-04-19  7:04     ` [Cluster-devel] " Neil Brown
2007-04-19  7:04       ` Neil Brown
2007-04-19 14:53       ` Wendy Cheng
2007-04-19 14:53         ` Wendy Cheng
2007-04-24  3:30       ` Wendy Cheng
2007-04-24  3:30         ` Wendy Cheng
     [not found]         ` <message from Wendy Cheng on Monday April 23>
2007-04-24  5:52           ` [NFS] " Neil Brown
2007-04-24  5:52             ` Neil Brown
2007-04-26  4:35             ` [NFS] " Wendy Cheng
2007-04-26  4:35               ` Wendy Cheng
     [not found]               ` <message from Wendy Cheng on Thursday April 26>
2007-04-26  5:43                 ` [NFS] " Neil Brown
2007-04-26  5:43                   ` Neil Brown
2007-04-27  2:24                   ` [NFS] " Wendy Cheng
2007-04-27  2:24                     ` Wendy Cheng
2007-04-27  6:00                 ` [NFS] " Neil Brown
2007-04-27  6:00                   ` Neil Brown
2007-04-27 11:15                   ` [NFS] " Jeff Layton
2007-04-27 11:15                     ` Jeff Layton
     [not found]                     ` <message from Jeff Layton on Friday April 27>
2007-04-27 12:40                       ` [NFS] " Neil Brown
2007-04-27 12:40                         ` Neil Brown
2007-04-27 13:42                         ` Jeff Layton
2007-04-27 18:57                           ` [NFS] " Jeff Layton
2007-04-27 14:17                           ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-27 14:17                             ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-27 15:42                             ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-04-27 15:43                               ` [NFS] " J. Bruce Fields
2007-04-27 15:36                               ` Wendy Cheng
2007-04-27 15:36                                 ` Wendy Cheng
2007-04-27 16:31                                 ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-04-27 16:31                                   ` [NFS] " J. Bruce Fields
     [not found]                                   ` <message from J. Bruce Fields on Friday April 27>
2007-04-27 22:22                                     ` Neil Brown
2007-04-27 22:22                                       ` Neil Brown
2007-04-29 20:13                                       ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-04-29 20:14                                         ` [NFS] " J. Bruce Fields
     [not found]                                         ` <message from J. Bruce Fields on Sunday April 29>
2007-04-29 23:10                                           ` Neil Brown
2007-04-29 23:10                                             ` Neil Brown
2007-04-30  5:19                                             ` [NFS] " Wendy Cheng
2007-04-30  5:19                                               ` Wendy Cheng
2007-05-04 18:42                                             ` [NFS] " J. Bruce Fields
2007-05-04 18:42                                               ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-05-04 21:35                                               ` [NFS] " Wendy Cheng
2007-05-04 21:35                                                 ` Wendy Cheng
2007-04-27 20:34                                 ` Frank van Maarseveen
2007-04-27 20:34                                   ` [NFS] " Frank van Maarseveen
2007-04-28  3:55                                   ` Wendy Cheng [this message]
2007-04-28  3:55                                     ` Wendy Cheng
     [not found]                                     ` <message from Wendy Cheng on Friday April 27>
2007-04-28  4:51                                       ` [NFS] " Neil Brown
2007-04-28  4:51                                         ` Neil Brown
2007-04-28  5:26                                         ` Marc Eshel
2007-04-28  5:27                                           ` [NFS] " Marc Eshel
2007-04-28 12:33                                         ` Frank van Maarseveen
2007-04-28 12:33                                           ` [NFS] " Frank van Maarseveen
2007-04-27 15:12                           ` Jeff Layton
2007-04-27 15:12                             ` [NFS] " Jeff Layton
2007-04-25 14:18 ` [Cluster-devel] Re: [NFS] " J. Bruce Fields
2007-04-25 14:18   ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-04-25 14:10   ` [Cluster-devel] Re: [NFS] " Wendy Cheng
2007-04-25 14:10     ` Wendy Cheng
2007-04-25 15:21     ` [Cluster-devel] Re: [NFS] " Marc Eshel
2007-04-25 15:21       ` Marc Eshel
2007-04-25 15:19       ` [Cluster-devel] Re: [NFS] " Wendy Cheng
2007-04-25 15:19         ` Wendy Cheng
2007-04-25 15:39         ` [Cluster-devel] Re: [NFS] " Wendy Cheng
2007-04-25 15:39           ` [Cluster-devel] " Wendy Cheng
2007-04-25 15:59     ` [Cluster-devel] Re: [NFS] " J. Bruce Fields
2007-04-25 15:59       ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-04-25 15:52       ` [Cluster-devel] Re: [NFS] " Wendy Cheng
2007-04-25 15:52         ` Wendy Cheng
2011-11-30 10:13 ` Pavel

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