From: Lee Howard <faxguy@howardsilvan.com>
To: "Uwe Kleine-König" <ukleinek@informatik.uni-freiburg.de>
Cc: linux-serial@vger.kernel.org, tytso@mit.edu,
rmk@arm.linux.org.uk, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: serial flow control appears broken
Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 09:28:06 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <46A8CB96.1010501@howardsilvan.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070726123420.GA14163@informatik.uni-freiburg.de>
Uwe Kleine-König wrote:
>Hello,
>
>
>
>>This is evidenced in hardware flow control by a little LED labeled "RTS"
>>that is on the external modem. This LED lights up when pin 7 of the DB9
>>serial connection is given +12Vdc current (signalling "RTS" is on - that
>>the host can accept data). The LED goes dark when the current is
>>removed (signalling that the host cannot accept data). This "RTS" LED
>>never flickers at all, as it should, when receiving these bursts of data
>>- the LED stays lit as long as the serial cable is connected to the
>>host... and yet I will see those "input overrun" messages. Thus, it
>>seems quite clear that the Linux serial tty driver is not deasserting
>>RTS as it should in hardware flow control. (And probably the analogous
>>problem exists in software flow control, too.)
>>
>>
>I don't know the relevant timings for problem, but just to be sure that
>your prerequisites are correct: How did you check that the LED stays
>lit all the time? Just from looking might not be accurate. You might
>want to mesure the signal with an oscilloscope.
>
The manufacturer is using a scope to look for RTS and they're not seeing
it, either. I just use my eyes to look at the LED, but I can see the
CTS, DTR, DCD, RD, and TD lights blink, flicker, or dim... (and TD, RD,
and CTS tend to go on and off rather quickly).
All of that said... even though I don't see RTS flicker or blink or dim
when using kernel 2.2.5 (RedHat 6.0) I don't have any problems using
115200 bps DTE-DCE communication rate.
Thanks,
Lee.
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From: Lee Howard <faxguy@howardsilvan.com>
To: "Uwe Kleine-König" <ukleinek@informatik.uni-freiburg.de>
Cc: linux-serial@vger.kernel.org, tytso@mit.edu,
rmk@arm.linux.org.uk, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: serial flow control appears broken
Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 09:28:06 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <46A8CB96.1010501@howardsilvan.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070726123420.GA14163@informatik.uni-freiburg.de>
Uwe Kleine-König wrote:
>Hello,
>
>
>
>>This is evidenced in hardware flow control by a little LED labeled "RTS"
>>that is on the external modem. This LED lights up when pin 7 of the DB9
>>serial connection is given +12Vdc current (signalling "RTS" is on - that
>>the host can accept data). The LED goes dark when the current is
>>removed (signalling that the host cannot accept data). This "RTS" LED
>>never flickers at all, as it should, when receiving these bursts of data
>>- the LED stays lit as long as the serial cable is connected to the
>>host... and yet I will see those "input overrun" messages. Thus, it
>>seems quite clear that the Linux serial tty driver is not deasserting
>>RTS as it should in hardware flow control. (And probably the analogous
>>problem exists in software flow control, too.)
>>
>>
>I don't know the relevant timings for problem, but just to be sure that
>your prerequisites are correct: How did you check that the LED stays
>lit all the time? Just from looking might not be accurate. You might
>want to mesure the signal with an oscilloscope.
>
The manufacturer is using a scope to look for RTS and they're not seeing
it, either. I just use my eyes to look at the LED, but I can see the
CTS, DTR, DCD, RD, and TD lights blink, flicker, or dim... (and TD, RD,
and CTS tend to go on and off rather quickly).
All of that said... even though I don't see RTS flicker or blink or dim
when using kernel 2.2.5 (RedHat 6.0) I don't have any problems using
115200 bps DTE-DCE communication rate.
Thanks,
Lee.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-07-26 16:29 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-07-26 1:52 serial flow control appears broken Lee Howard
2007-07-26 12:34 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2007-07-26 12:34 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2007-07-26 16:28 ` Lee Howard [this message]
2007-07-26 16:28 ` Lee Howard
2007-07-26 16:41 ` Alan Cox
2007-07-27 6:17 ` Lee Howard
2007-07-27 11:56 ` Alan Cox
2007-07-27 18:00 ` Lee Howard
2007-07-26 15:51 ` Tosoni
2007-07-26 16:31 ` Lee Howard
[not found] <fa.Z6O0xFRT69zes0Mg+agt3Uiwux4@ifi.uio.no>
2007-07-26 7:20 ` Robert Hancock
2007-07-26 16:08 ` Lee Howard
2007-07-26 16:31 ` Alan Cox
2007-07-27 5:53 ` Lee Howard
2007-07-27 11:47 ` Alan Cox
2007-07-27 17:36 ` Lee Howard
2007-07-27 13:45 ` Tilman Schmidt
2007-07-27 19:34 ` Paul Fulghum
2007-08-27 20:38 ` Paul Fulghum
2007-07-27 20:48 ` Lee Howard
2007-07-27 23:28 ` Paul Fulghum
2007-07-28 4:51 ` Lee Howard
2007-07-28 9:18 ` Russell King
2007-07-28 12:00 ` Alan Cox
2007-07-28 15:39 ` Lee Howard
2007-08-01 21:54 ` Frantisek Rysanek
2007-07-28 16:41 ` Ray Lee
2007-08-04 18:21 ` Lee Howard
2007-08-04 22:07 ` Paul Fulghum
2007-08-05 0:00 ` Lee Howard
2007-08-05 14:52 ` Paul Fulghum
2007-07-27 19:34 ` Paul Fulghum
2007-07-27 20:05 ` Lee Howard
2007-07-27 11:32 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2007-07-27 17:11 ` Lee Howard
2007-07-27 17:41 ` Alan Cox
2007-07-27 17:53 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2007-07-27 18:11 ` Lee Howard
2007-07-30 9:36 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2007-07-27 18:22 ` Robert Hancock
2007-07-27 18:46 ` Paul Fulghum
2007-07-27 19:05 ` Paul Fulghum
2007-07-30 9:39 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2007-07-27 19:14 ` Paul Fulghum
2007-07-28 9:28 ` Russell King
2007-07-30 9:45 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2007-07-30 9:59 ` Russell King
2007-08-02 14:57 ` Mark Lord
2007-08-02 16:14 ` Robert Hancock
2007-08-02 16:29 ` Mark Lord
2007-08-02 16:40 ` Robert Hancock
2007-08-02 17:13 ` Alan Cox
2007-08-04 19:38 ` Lee Howard
2007-08-02 16:57 ` Alan Cox
2007-08-02 17:02 ` Robert Hancock
2007-08-03 9:32 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2007-07-30 9:34 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2007-08-04 18:19 ` Lee Howard
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