From: Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Dave Hansen <haveblue@us.ibm.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Linux MM Mailing List <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
Linux Containers <containers@lists.osdl.org>,
Paul Menage <menage@google.com>
Subject: Re: [-mm PATCH] Memory controller improve user interface
Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 03:57:07 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <46D5F2BB.8010203@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1188425894.28903.140.camel@localhost>
Dave Hansen wrote:
> On Thu, 2007-08-30 at 03:34 +0530, Balbir Singh wrote:
>> I've thought about this before. The problem is that a user could
>> set his limit to 10000 bytes, but would then see the usage and
>> limit round to the closest page boundary. This can be confusing
>> to a user.
>
> True, but we're lying if we allow a user to set their limit there,
> because we can't actually enforce a limit at 8,192 bytes vs 10,000.
> They're the same limit as far as the kernel is concerned.
>
> Why not just -EINVAL if the value isn't page-aligned? There are plenty
> of interfaces in the kernel that require userspace to know the page
> size, so this shouldn't be too difficult.
True, mmap() is a good example of such an interface for developers, I
am not sure about system admins though.
To quote Andrew
<quote>
Reporting tools could run getpagesize() and do the arithmetic, but we
generally try to avoid exposing PAGE_SIZE, HZ, etc to userspace in this
manner.
</quote>
--
Warm Regards,
Balbir Singh
Linux Technology Center
IBM, ISTL
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From: Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Dave Hansen <haveblue@us.ibm.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Linux MM Mailing List <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
Linux Containers <containers@lists.osdl.org>,
Paul Menage <menage@google.com>
Subject: Re: [-mm PATCH] Memory controller improve user interface
Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 03:57:07 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <46D5F2BB.8010203@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1188425894.28903.140.camel@localhost>
Dave Hansen wrote:
> On Thu, 2007-08-30 at 03:34 +0530, Balbir Singh wrote:
>> I've thought about this before. The problem is that a user could
>> set his limit to 10000 bytes, but would then see the usage and
>> limit round to the closest page boundary. This can be confusing
>> to a user.
>
> True, but we're lying if we allow a user to set their limit there,
> because we can't actually enforce a limit at 8,192 bytes vs 10,000.
> They're the same limit as far as the kernel is concerned.
>
> Why not just -EINVAL if the value isn't page-aligned? There are plenty
> of interfaces in the kernel that require userspace to know the page
> size, so this shouldn't be too difficult.
True, mmap() is a good example of such an interface for developers, I
am not sure about system admins though.
To quote Andrew
<quote>
Reporting tools could run getpagesize() and do the arithmetic, but we
generally try to avoid exposing PAGE_SIZE, HZ, etc to userspace in this
manner.
</quote>
--
Warm Regards,
Balbir Singh
Linux Technology Center
IBM, ISTL
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-08-29 22:27 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-08-29 11:10 [-mm PATCH] Memory controller improve user interface Balbir Singh
2007-08-29 11:10 ` Balbir Singh
2007-08-29 15:28 ` Paul Menage
2007-08-29 15:28 ` Paul Menage
2007-08-29 16:07 ` Balbir Singh
2007-08-29 16:07 ` Balbir Singh
2007-08-29 16:17 ` Paul Menage
2007-08-29 16:17 ` Paul Menage
2007-08-29 18:45 ` Dave Hansen
2007-08-29 18:45 ` Dave Hansen
2007-08-29 22:04 ` Balbir Singh
2007-08-29 22:04 ` Balbir Singh
2007-08-29 22:04 ` Balbir Singh
2007-08-29 22:18 ` Dave Hansen
2007-08-29 22:18 ` Dave Hansen
2007-08-29 22:20 ` Paul Menage
2007-08-29 22:20 ` Paul Menage
2007-08-29 22:25 ` Dave Hansen
2007-08-29 22:25 ` Dave Hansen
2007-08-29 22:37 ` Balbir Singh
2007-08-29 22:37 ` Balbir Singh
2007-08-29 22:37 ` Balbir Singh
2007-08-30 5:38 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2007-08-30 5:38 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
[not found] ` <20070830143859.e9d3511a.kamezawa.hiroyu-+CUm20s59erQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2007-08-30 9:13 ` Balbir Singh
2007-08-30 9:13 ` Balbir Singh
2007-08-30 9:13 ` Balbir Singh
2007-08-29 22:27 ` Balbir Singh [this message]
2007-08-29 22:27 ` Balbir Singh
2007-08-29 22:36 ` Dave Hansen
2007-08-29 22:36 ` Dave Hansen
2007-08-29 22:44 ` Balbir Singh
2007-08-29 22:44 ` Balbir Singh
2007-08-29 22:44 ` Balbir Singh
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