From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc: Rene Herman <rene.herman@gmail.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
"David P. Reed" <dpreed@reed.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86_64: fix problems due to use of "outb" to port 80 on some AMD64x2 laptops, etc.
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 10:48:37 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4762D005.5060800@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20071214183626.4a16e2af@the-village.bc.nu>
Alan Cox wrote:
>>> i dont think this should matter: old systems that truly _need_ the ISA
>>> delay will be slow enough to not trip up. (nor are they really affected
>>> by these early delays - the delays were more for crappy ISA devices that
>>> get initialized later down, when the delay loop is already calibrated)
>> 8253 (DMAC) and 8254 (PIT) have been reported in earlier versions of the
>> thread. By Alan, I believe.
>
> They've been seen to be problems up to PII era machines. I'm not aware of
> any newer than that with this problem. We also don't need to touch the
> DMAC that early anyway that I can see - just the PIT.
>
> In fact if we have a fast processor we have a TSC and APIC so we don't
> need the PIT ?
Well, the TSC may be unstable and the APIC may be disabled.
-hpa
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-12-14 18:53 UTC|newest]
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2007-11-12 16:55 ` [PATCH] x86: fix locking and sync bugs in x86_64 RTC code in time_64.c David P. Reed
2007-11-14 7:49 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-11-14 13:10 ` David P. Reed
2007-11-14 18:26 ` Matt Mackall
2007-11-14 21:22 ` David P. Reed
2007-11-12 17:02 ` [PATCH] time: fix typo that makes sync_cmos_clock erratic David P. Reed
2007-11-14 7:57 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-11-12 19:19 ` David P. Reed
2007-11-14 22:47 ` [PATCH] x86: fix freeze in x86_64 RTC update code in time_64.c David P. Reed
2007-11-14 22:49 ` [PATCH] time: fix typo that makes sync_cmos_clock erratic David P. Reed
2007-11-15 1:14 ` [PATCH] x86: on x86_64, correct reading of PC RTC when update in progress in time_64.c David P. Reed
2007-11-15 19:33 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-11-15 20:31 ` David P. Reed
2007-11-15 22:17 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-12-14 2:59 ` [PATCH] x86_64: fix problems due to use of "outb" to port 80 on some AMD64x2 laptops, etc David P. Reed
2007-12-14 7:49 ` Yinghai Lu
2007-12-14 9:45 ` Rene Herman
2007-12-14 14:23 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-14 14:36 ` Rene Herman
2007-12-14 14:46 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-14 14:56 ` Rene Herman
2007-12-14 18:36 ` Alan Cox
2007-12-14 18:48 ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2007-12-14 21:05 ` Pavel Machek
2007-12-15 22:59 ` Pavel Machek
2007-12-14 10:51 ` Andi Kleen
2007-12-14 11:11 ` David P. Reed
2007-12-14 13:15 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-14 13:24 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-14 13:47 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-14 14:41 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-14 13:42 ` Rene Herman
2007-12-14 14:03 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-14 14:10 ` Rene Herman
2007-12-14 14:21 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-14 18:02 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-12-14 18:23 ` Rene Herman
2007-12-14 21:06 ` Pavel Machek
2007-12-14 22:13 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-12-14 23:29 ` Alan Cox
2007-12-15 3:04 ` David P. Reed
2007-12-15 5:45 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-12-15 17:17 ` David P. Reed
2007-12-15 17:46 ` Alan Cox
2007-12-17 22:50 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-12-17 22:52 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-12-15 8:08 ` Paul Rolland
2007-12-15 8:13 ` Rene Herman
2007-12-15 20:27 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-12-15 23:26 ` [PATCH] x86: " Rene Herman
2007-12-15 23:51 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-12-16 0:05 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-12-16 13:15 ` [PATCH] x86: provide a DMI based port 0x80 I/O delay override Rene Herman
2007-12-16 15:22 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-17 1:43 ` Rene Herman
2007-12-17 2:05 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-12-17 2:19 ` Rene Herman
2007-12-17 3:35 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-12-17 13:02 ` Rene Herman
2007-12-17 17:14 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-12-17 19:43 ` David P. Reed
2007-12-17 19:55 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-12-17 21:02 ` David P. Reed
2007-12-17 21:17 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-12-17 21:25 ` Alan Cox
2008-01-01 15:57 ` David P. Reed
2008-01-01 21:16 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-01-01 15:59 ` David P. Reed
2008-01-01 16:15 ` Alan Cox
2008-01-01 16:43 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-01-01 17:32 ` Alan Cox
2008-01-01 18:45 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-01-01 20:14 ` Christer Weinigel
2008-01-01 21:13 ` Alan Cox
2008-01-01 21:07 ` Alan Cox
2008-01-02 10:04 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-01-02 13:11 ` [linux-kernel] " David P. Reed
2008-01-02 13:21 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-01-02 13:47 ` Alan Cox
2008-01-02 15:35 ` Rene Herman
2008-01-02 15:50 ` Rene Herman
2008-01-01 17:32 ` Christer Weinigel
2008-01-01 18:46 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-01-01 19:35 ` Christer Weinigel
2008-01-01 19:59 ` Rene Herman
2008-01-01 20:55 ` Christer Weinigel
2008-01-01 21:24 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-01-01 21:01 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-01-01 21:26 ` Alan Cox
2008-01-01 21:42 ` Christer Weinigel
2008-01-01 21:42 ` Rene Herman
2008-01-01 21:50 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-01-01 21:21 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-01-01 23:05 ` Christer Weinigel
2008-01-01 23:12 ` Alan Cox
2008-01-02 0:23 ` Christer Weinigel
2008-01-02 10:00 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-01-01 17:32 ` David P. Reed
2008-01-01 17:38 ` Alan Cox
2008-01-01 21:15 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-01-01 21:35 ` Rene Herman
2008-01-01 21:44 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-01-01 22:35 ` Rene Herman
2008-01-01 22:39 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-01-01 23:11 ` Rene Herman
2008-01-02 0:25 ` Rene Herman
2008-01-02 0:55 ` Christer Weinigel
2008-01-02 1:00 ` Rene Herman
2008-01-02 2:27 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-01-09 17:27 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2008-01-09 18:18 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-01-01 17:31 ` Pavel Machek
2008-01-01 17:33 ` David P. Reed
2007-12-17 4:09 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-12-17 10:57 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-17 11:29 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-17 13:34 ` David P. Reed
2007-12-17 12:15 ` Rene Herman
2007-12-17 13:09 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-17 13:22 ` Rene Herman
2007-12-17 13:31 ` Pavel Machek
2007-12-17 13:31 ` Rene Herman
2007-12-17 13:32 ` David P. Reed
2007-12-17 13:36 ` Rene Herman
2007-12-17 14:39 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-17 16:12 ` Alan Cox
2007-12-17 16:48 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-17 20:48 ` Rene Herman
2007-12-17 20:57 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-12-17 21:33 ` Rene Herman
2007-12-17 21:40 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-12-17 21:46 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-17 21:50 ` Rene Herman
2007-12-17 21:41 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-17 21:47 ` Rene Herman
2007-12-17 21:56 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-17 22:01 ` Rene Herman
2007-12-17 22:18 ` David P. Reed
2007-12-17 19:38 ` David P. Reed
2007-12-17 19:55 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-12-17 21:28 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-16 21:42 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-12-17 1:48 ` Rene Herman
2007-12-17 1:53 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-12-16 23:12 ` David P. Reed
2007-12-17 1:56 ` Rene Herman
2007-12-17 2:04 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-12-17 2:15 ` Rene Herman
2007-12-16 0:23 ` [PATCH] x86: fix problems due to use of "outb" to port 80 on some AMD64x2 laptops, etc David P. Reed
2007-12-15 20:26 ` [PATCH] x86_64: " H. Peter Anvin
2007-12-15 22:55 ` Pavel Machek
2007-12-16 9:27 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-17 21:04 ` Rene Herman
2007-12-17 23:20 ` Pavel Machek
2007-12-18 0:06 ` Alan Cox
2007-12-18 15:49 ` Lennart Sorensen
2007-12-17 22:46 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-12-15 7:43 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-15 7:58 ` Rene Herman
2007-12-15 13:27 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-15 14:01 ` Rene Herman
2007-12-15 20:25 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-12-15 14:29 ` Alan Cox
2007-12-15 16:19 ` David P. Reed
2007-12-15 16:48 ` Mark Lord
2007-12-15 17:51 ` Alan Cox
2007-12-15 23:00 ` Pavel Machek
2007-12-15 23:04 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-12-16 9:40 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-16 21:43 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-12-16 23:06 ` David P. Reed
2007-12-16 23:23 ` Pavel Machek
2007-12-16 23:34 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-12-26 20:49 ` Pavel Machek
2007-12-17 1:51 ` Rene Herman
2007-12-14 16:08 ` Avi Kivity
2007-12-15 2:13 ` David P. Reed
2007-12-15 2:20 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-12-15 2:20 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-12-17 18:14 ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2007-12-17 18:54 ` Rene Herman
2007-12-17 18:54 ` Rene Herman
2007-12-19 15:03 ` Avi Kivity
2007-12-19 15:03 ` Avi Kivity
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