From: Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: John Stoffel <john@stoffel.org>
Cc: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
akpm@osdl.org, torvalds@osdl.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Document huge memory/cache overhead of memory controller in Kconfig
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 20:50:52 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <47BC4554.10304@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <18364.16552.455371.242369@stoffel.org>
John Stoffel wrote:
> I know this is a pedantic comment, but why the heck is it called such
> a generic term as "Memory Controller" which doesn't give any
> indication of what it does.
>
> Shouldn't it be something like "Memory Quota Controller", or "Memory
> Limits Controller"?
>
It's called the memory controller since it controls the amount of memory that a
user can allocate (via limits). The generic term for any resource manager
plugged into cgroups is a controller. If you look through some of the references
in the document, we've listed our plans to support other categories of memory as
well. Hence it's called a memory controller
> Also, the Kconfig name "CGROUP_MEM_CONT" is just wrong, it should be
> "CGROUP_MEM_CONTROLLER", just spell it out so it's clear what's up.
>
This has some history as well. Control groups was called containers earlier.
That way a name like CGROUP_MEM_CONT could stand for cgroup memory container or
cgroup memory controller.
> It took me a bunch of reading of Documentation/controllers/memory.txt
> to even start to understand what the purpose of this was. The
> document could also use a re-writing to include a clear introduction
> at the top to explain "what" a memory controller is.
>
> Something which talks about limits, resource management, quotas, etc
> would be nice.
>
The references, specially reference [1] contains a lot of details on limits,
guarantees, etc. Since they've been documented in the past on lkml, I decided
to keep them out of the documentation and mention them as references. If it's
going to help to add that terminology; I can create another document describing
what resource management means and what the commonly used terms mean.
--
Warm Regards,
Balbir Singh
Linux Technology Center
IBM, ISTL
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From: Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: John Stoffel <john@stoffel.org>
Cc: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
akpm@osdl.org, torvalds@osdl.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Document huge memory/cache overhead of memory controller in Kconfig
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 20:50:52 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <47BC4554.10304@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <18364.16552.455371.242369@stoffel.org>
John Stoffel wrote:
> I know this is a pedantic comment, but why the heck is it called such
> a generic term as "Memory Controller" which doesn't give any
> indication of what it does.
>
> Shouldn't it be something like "Memory Quota Controller", or "Memory
> Limits Controller"?
>
It's called the memory controller since it controls the amount of memory that a
user can allocate (via limits). The generic term for any resource manager
plugged into cgroups is a controller. If you look through some of the references
in the document, we've listed our plans to support other categories of memory as
well. Hence it's called a memory controller
> Also, the Kconfig name "CGROUP_MEM_CONT" is just wrong, it should be
> "CGROUP_MEM_CONTROLLER", just spell it out so it's clear what's up.
>
This has some history as well. Control groups was called containers earlier.
That way a name like CGROUP_MEM_CONT could stand for cgroup memory container or
cgroup memory controller.
> It took me a bunch of reading of Documentation/controllers/memory.txt
> to even start to understand what the purpose of this was. The
> document could also use a re-writing to include a clear introduction
> at the top to explain "what" a memory controller is.
>
> Something which talks about limits, resource management, quotas, etc
> would be nice.
>
The references, specially reference [1] contains a lot of details on limits,
guarantees, etc. Since they've been documented in the past on lkml, I decided
to keep them out of the documentation and mention them as references. If it's
going to help to add that terminology; I can create another document describing
what resource management means and what the commonly used terms mean.
--
Warm Regards,
Balbir Singh
Linux Technology Center
IBM, ISTL
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Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-02-20 12:23 [PATCH] Document huge memory/cache overhead of memory controller in Kconfig Andi Kleen
2008-02-20 12:23 ` Andi Kleen
2008-02-20 12:52 ` Balbir Singh
2008-02-20 12:52 ` Balbir Singh
2008-02-20 15:00 ` John Stoffel
2008-02-20 15:00 ` John Stoffel
2008-02-20 15:20 ` Balbir Singh [this message]
2008-02-20 15:20 ` Balbir Singh
2008-02-20 15:49 ` Jan Engelhardt
2008-02-20 15:49 ` Jan Engelhardt
2008-02-20 16:10 ` John Stoffel
2008-02-20 16:10 ` John Stoffel
2008-02-20 16:15 ` Balbir Singh
2008-02-20 16:15 ` Balbir Singh
2008-02-20 17:00 ` Andi Kleen
2008-02-20 17:00 ` Andi Kleen
2008-02-21 6:49 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-02-21 6:49 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-02-21 6:52 ` Balbir Singh
2008-02-21 6:52 ` Balbir Singh
2008-02-20 18:19 ` Pavel Machek
2008-02-20 18:19 ` Pavel Machek
2008-02-20 18:28 ` Jan Engelhardt
2008-02-20 18:28 ` Jan Engelhardt
2008-02-20 18:51 ` Pavel Machek
2008-02-20 18:51 ` Pavel Machek
2008-02-21 14:46 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2008-02-21 14:46 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2008-02-21 14:52 ` Balbir Singh
2008-02-21 14:52 ` Balbir Singh
2008-02-21 23:55 ` Pavel Machek
2008-02-21 23:55 ` Pavel Machek
2008-02-22 3:09 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2008-02-22 3:09 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2008-02-20 16:15 ` John Stoffel
2008-02-20 16:15 ` John Stoffel
2008-02-20 16:54 ` Ray Lee
2008-02-20 16:54 ` Ray Lee
2008-02-20 16:57 ` Andi Kleen
2008-02-20 16:57 ` Andi Kleen
2008-02-21 4:35 ` Nick Piggin
2008-02-21 4:35 ` Nick Piggin
2008-02-21 5:06 ` Balbir Singh
2008-02-21 5:06 ` Balbir Singh
[not found] ` <200802211622.51751.nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
2008-02-21 5:46 ` Balbir Singh
2008-02-21 5:46 ` Balbir Singh
2008-02-21 10:44 ` Andi Kleen
2008-02-21 10:44 ` Andi Kleen
2008-02-22 4:41 ` Balbir Singh
2008-02-22 4:41 ` Balbir Singh
2008-02-22 9:51 ` Andi Kleen
2008-02-22 9:51 ` Andi Kleen
2008-02-22 12:14 ` Balbir Singh
2008-02-22 12:14 ` Balbir Singh
2008-02-22 13:00 ` Andi Kleen
2008-02-22 13:00 ` Andi Kleen
2008-02-22 15:47 ` Balbir Singh
2008-02-22 15:47 ` Balbir Singh
2008-02-21 10:37 ` Andi Kleen
2008-02-21 10:37 ` Andi Kleen
2008-02-21 11:03 ` Balbir Singh
2008-02-21 11:03 ` Balbir Singh
2008-02-22 6:59 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-02-22 6:59 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-02-22 7:06 ` Balbir Singh
2008-02-22 7:06 ` Balbir Singh
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