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From: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
To: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, Yinghai Lu <yhlu.kernel@gmail.com>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Suresh Siddha <suresh.b.siddha@intel.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCh] x86: overmapped fix when 4K pages on tail - 64bit
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 08:39:55 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <487AF4BB.6050805@firstfloor.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <487A9804.8090307@zytor.com>

H. Peter Anvin wrote:
> Andi Kleen wrote:
>>
>> First I was only commenting on one specific patch, nothing more.
>>
>> My point is full rounding to 4K on all corners is wasteful because the
>> CPUs have to handle that case anyways and every split costs precious
>> TLB entries in direct mapping accesses.
>>
> 
> Well, the CPU *does* handle them... by splitting the larger pages into
> smaller pages.  They still end up in the small-page TLB, so there is no
> real difference if done in the CPU or in software.

There's actually a difference in some cases, but that's a different
issue.

Only when the hole is a real hole. But when it's just some firmware
area or similar that's not needed.

> Memory state transitions are (fortunately) relatively rare and
> long-lived,

That's not true today with several 3d driver setups. Also in general
I would expect more PAT use in the future and that is usually a split.

-Andi

  reply	other threads:[~2008-07-14  6:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 84+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-07-08  8:41 [PATCH] x86: introduce page_size_mask for 64bit Yinghai Lu
2008-07-08  8:43 ` [PATCH] x86: not overmap than end in init_memory_mapping - 64bit Yinghai Lu
2008-07-09  7:38   ` Ingo Molnar
2008-07-09  8:34     ` Ingo Molnar
2008-07-09  8:37       ` Yinghai Lu
2008-07-09  8:46         ` Ingo Molnar
2008-07-09  8:58           ` Yinghai Lu
2008-07-09 10:01           ` Yinghai Lu
2008-07-09 10:30             ` Ingo Molnar
2008-07-09  8:45       ` Ingo Molnar
2008-07-10  3:15   ` [PATCh] x86: overmapped fix when 4K pages on tail " Yinghai Lu
2008-07-10  3:16     ` [PATCH] x86: merge __acpi_map_table Yinghai Lu
2008-07-10  3:17       ` [PATCH] x86: make e820_end return end_of_ram again for 64bit Yinghai Lu
2008-07-10  7:00         ` Ingo Molnar
2008-07-10 11:17         ` [PATCH] x86: e820 remove the range instead of update it to reserved Yinghai Lu
2008-07-11  8:20           ` Ingo Molnar
2008-07-11  3:36         ` [PATCH] x86: save slit Yinghai Lu
2008-07-11  8:22           ` Ingo Molnar
2008-07-11  3:38         ` [PATCH] x86: introduce max_low_pfn_mapped for 64bit Yinghai Lu
2008-07-11  8:26           ` Ingo Molnar
2008-07-11  8:39             ` Yinghai Lu
2008-07-11  8:51               ` Ingo Molnar
2008-07-12  1:41           ` [PATCH] x86: let 32bit use apic_ops too Yinghai Lu
2008-07-12  1:43             ` [PATCH] x86: mach_apicdef.h need to include before smp.h Yinghai Lu
2008-07-12  1:44               ` [PATCH] x86: make read_apic_id return final apicid Yinghai Lu
2008-07-12  8:01                 ` [PATCH] x86: make 64bit have get_apic_id Yinghai Lu
2008-07-13  6:28                   ` Ingo Molnar
2008-07-13  6:59                     ` Ingo Molnar
2008-07-13  7:05                       ` Yinghai Lu
2008-07-13  9:23                         ` Ingo Molnar
2008-07-13  9:28                           ` Ingo Molnar
2008-07-13 16:15                             ` Suresh Siddha
2008-07-13  1:19                 ` [PATCH] x86: make read_apic_id return final apicid Suresh Siddha
2008-07-13  1:08             ` [PATCH] x86: let 32bit use apic_ops too Suresh Siddha
2008-07-13  2:04               ` Yinghai Lu
2008-07-13 16:28                 ` Suresh Siddha
2008-07-13 16:51                   ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2008-07-13 17:16                     ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2008-07-13 23:46                       ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2008-07-14 16:48                         ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2008-07-14 17:20                           ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2008-07-14 18:09                             ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2008-07-14 18:24                               ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2008-07-14 18:32                                 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2008-07-13  1:43             ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2008-07-13  1:45               ` Yinghai Lu
2008-07-13  1:54                 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2008-07-13 16:43                   ` Suresh Siddha
2008-07-13 17:05                     ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2008-07-14  5:19             ` [PATCH] x86: let 32bit use apic_ops too - fix Yinghai Lu
2008-07-14  7:12               ` Ingo Molnar
2008-07-14 16:49                 ` Suresh Siddha
2008-07-14 17:00                   ` Yinghai Lu
2008-07-14 18:03                     ` Suresh Siddha
2008-07-18 17:06                   ` Ingo Molnar
2008-07-15 17:33               ` Suresh Siddha
2008-07-15 18:10                 ` Yinghai Lu
2008-07-15 18:27                   ` Suresh Siddha
2008-07-18 17:07                 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-07-12 21:30           ` [PATCH] x86: max_low_pfn_mapped fix #1 Yinghai Lu
2008-07-13  9:45             ` Ingo Molnar
2008-07-12 21:31           ` [PATCH] x86: max_low_pfn_mapped fix #2 Yinghai Lu
2008-07-12 21:32           ` [PATCH] x86: max_low_pfn_mapped fix #3 Yinghai Lu
2008-07-13 21:29             ` [PATCH] x86: max_low_pfn_mapped fix #4 Yinghai Lu
2008-07-13 21:30             ` [PATCH] x86: get x86_phys_bits early Yinghai Lu
2008-07-13 21:32             ` [PATCH] x86: make 64bit hpet_set_mapping to use ioremap too Yinghai Lu
2008-07-13 21:50               ` [PATCH] x86: make 64bit hpet_set_mapping to use ioremap too v2 Yinghai Lu
2008-07-10  6:54       ` [PATCH] x86: merge __acpi_map_table Ingo Molnar
2008-07-10  6:53     ` [PATCh] x86: overmapped fix when 4K pages on tail - 64bit Ingo Molnar
2008-07-10  6:57       ` Yinghai Lu
2008-07-10  7:20         ` Ingo Molnar
2008-07-10  7:32           ` Yinghai Lu
2008-07-10 14:16     ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-07-13 14:57       ` Andi Kleen
2008-07-13 15:33         ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-07-13 18:25           ` Andi Kleen
2008-07-13 18:17         ` Yinghai Lu
2008-07-13 18:48           ` Andi Kleen
2008-07-13 19:00             ` Yinghai Lu
2008-07-13 20:32             ` Ingo Molnar
2008-07-13 20:51               ` Andi Kleen
2008-07-14  0:04                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-14  6:39                   ` Andi Kleen [this message]
2008-07-09  7:38 ` [PATCH] x86: introduce page_size_mask for 64bit Ingo Molnar

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