All of lore.kernel.org
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Cedric Le Goater <clg@fr.ibm.com>
To: Peter Chubb <peterc@gelato.unsw.edu.au>
Cc: Oren Laadan <orenl@cs.columbia.edu>,
	Daniel Lezcano <dlezcano@fr.ibm.com>,
	jeremy@goop.org, arnd@arndb.de,
	containers@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Dave Hansen <dave@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Andrey Mirkin <major@openvz.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC v6][PATCH 0/9] Kernel based checkpoint/restart
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 08:44:40 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <48F83458.2080602@fr.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87r66g8875.wl%peter@chubb.wattle.id.au>

> Oren> For now, yes. But we definitely want this capability in the long
> Oren> run; otherwise we won't be able to checkpoint a kernel compile
> Oren> ('make' uses vfork), or anything with 'gdb' running inside, or
> Oren> 'strace', and other goodies.
> 
> The strace/gdb example is *really* hard; but for vfork, you just wait
> until it's over. The interval between vfork and exec/exit should be
> short enough not to affect the overall time for a checkpoint (and
> checkpoint can be fairly slow anyway --- on the HPC machines we used
> to do it on, writing half a terabyte of checkpoint image to disc could take
> many minutes.  In hindsight, we should have multithreaded it).

we've tried that and it doesn't change a thing if you have only one disk :)
it might even give worse results as you are increasing context switches.

> Waiting for a vforked process to exec is less than a millisecond.

yes that shouldn't be too hard to handle.

Cheers,

C.

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Cedric Le Goater <clg@fr.ibm.com>
To: Peter Chubb <peterc@gelato.unsw.edu.au>
Cc: Oren Laadan <orenl@cs.columbia.edu>,
	Daniel Lezcano <dlezcano@fr.ibm.com>,
	jeremy@goop.org, arnd@arndb.de,
	containers@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Dave Hansen <dave@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Andrey Mirkin <major@openvz.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC v6][PATCH 0/9] Kernel based checkpoint/restart
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 08:44:40 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <48F83458.2080602@fr.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87r66g8875.wl%peter@chubb.wattle.id.au>

> Oren> For now, yes. But we definitely want this capability in the long
> Oren> run; otherwise we won't be able to checkpoint a kernel compile
> Oren> ('make' uses vfork), or anything with 'gdb' running inside, or
> Oren> 'strace', and other goodies.
> 
> The strace/gdb example is *really* hard; but for vfork, you just wait
> until it's over. The interval between vfork and exec/exit should be
> short enough not to affect the overall time for a checkpoint (and
> checkpoint can be fairly slow anyway --- on the HPC machines we used
> to do it on, writing half a terabyte of checkpoint image to disc could take
> many minutes.  In hindsight, we should have multithreaded it).

we've tried that and it doesn't change a thing if you have only one disk :)
it might even give worse results as you are increasing context switches.

> Waiting for a vforked process to exec is less than a millisecond.

yes that shouldn't be too hard to handle.

Cheers,

C.

--
To unsubscribe, send a message with 'unsubscribe linux-mm' in
the body to majordomo@kvack.org.  For more info on Linux MM,
see: http://www.linux-mm.org/ .
Don't email: <a href=mailto:"dont@kvack.org"> email@kvack.org </a>

  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-10-17  6:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 105+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-10-08 10:19 [RFC v6][PATCH 0/9] Kernel based checkpoint/restart Oren Laadan
2008-10-08 10:19 ` Oren Laadan
     [not found] ` <1223461197-11513-1-git-send-email-orenl-eQaUEPhvms7ENvBUuze7eA@public.gmane.org>
2008-10-08 10:19   ` [RFC v6][PATCH 1/9] Create syscalls: sys_checkpoint, sys_restart Oren Laadan
2008-10-08 10:19   ` [RFC v6][PATCH 2/9] General infrastructure for checkpoint restart Oren Laadan
2008-10-08 10:19   ` [RFC v6][PATCH 3/9] x86 support for checkpoint/restart Oren Laadan
2008-10-08 10:19   ` [RFC v6][PATCH 4/9] Dump memory address space Oren Laadan
2008-10-08 10:19   ` [RFC v6][PATCH 5/9] Restore " Oren Laadan
2008-10-08 10:19   ` [RFC v6][PATCH 6/9] Checkpoint/restart: initial documentation Oren Laadan
2008-10-08 10:19   ` [RFC v6][PATCH 7/9] Infrastructure for shared objects Oren Laadan
2008-10-08 10:19   ` [RFC v6][PATCH 8/9] Dump open file descriptors Oren Laadan
2008-10-08 10:19   ` [RFC v6][PATCH 9/9] Restore open file descriprtors Oren Laadan
2008-10-09 12:46   ` [RFC v6][PATCH 0/9] Kernel based checkpoint/restart Ingo Molnar
2008-10-08 10:19 ` [RFC v6][PATCH 1/9] Create syscalls: sys_checkpoint, sys_restart Oren Laadan
2008-10-08 10:19   ` Oren Laadan
2008-10-08 10:19 ` [RFC v6][PATCH 2/9] General infrastructure for checkpoint restart Oren Laadan
2008-10-08 10:19   ` Oren Laadan
2008-10-08 10:19 ` [RFC v6][PATCH 3/9] x86 support for checkpoint/restart Oren Laadan
2008-10-08 10:19   ` Oren Laadan
2008-10-10 10:21   ` Cedric Le Goater
2008-10-10 10:21     ` Cedric Le Goater
2008-10-10 10:24     ` Oren Laadan
2008-10-10 10:24       ` Oren Laadan
     [not found]     ` <48EF2CB3.9040900-NmTC/0ZBporQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-10-10 10:24       ` Oren Laadan
     [not found]   ` <1223461197-11513-4-git-send-email-orenl-eQaUEPhvms7ENvBUuze7eA@public.gmane.org>
2008-10-10 10:21     ` Cedric Le Goater
2008-10-08 10:19 ` [RFC v6][PATCH 4/9] Dump memory address space Oren Laadan
2008-10-08 10:19   ` Oren Laadan
2008-10-08 10:19 ` [RFC v6][PATCH 5/9] Restore " Oren Laadan
2008-10-08 10:19   ` Oren Laadan
2008-10-08 15:35   ` Dave Hansen
2008-10-08 15:35     ` Dave Hansen
     [not found]   ` <1223461197-11513-6-git-send-email-orenl-eQaUEPhvms7ENvBUuze7eA@public.gmane.org>
2008-10-08 15:35     ` Dave Hansen
2008-10-08 10:19 ` [RFC v6][PATCH 6/9] Checkpoint/restart: initial documentation Oren Laadan
2008-10-08 10:19   ` Oren Laadan
2008-10-08 10:19 ` [RFC v6][PATCH 7/9] Infrastructure for shared objects Oren Laadan
2008-10-08 10:19   ` Oren Laadan
2008-10-08 10:19 ` [RFC v6][PATCH 8/9] Dump open file descriptors Oren Laadan
2008-10-08 10:19   ` Oren Laadan
2008-10-08 10:19 ` [RFC v6][PATCH 9/9] Restore open file descriprtors Oren Laadan
2008-10-08 10:19   ` Oren Laadan
2008-10-09 12:46 ` [RFC v6][PATCH 0/9] Kernel based checkpoint/restart Ingo Molnar
2008-10-09 12:46   ` Ingo Molnar
     [not found]   ` <20081009124658.GE2952-X9Un+BFzKDI@public.gmane.org>
2008-10-09 12:58     ` Dave Hansen
2008-10-09 12:58       ` Dave Hansen
2008-10-09 12:58       ` Dave Hansen
2008-10-09 13:17       ` Ingo Molnar
2008-10-09 13:17       ` Ingo Molnar
2008-10-09 13:17         ` Ingo Molnar
2008-10-09 13:34         ` Dave Hansen
2008-10-09 13:34           ` Dave Hansen
2008-10-09 13:44           ` Ingo Molnar
2008-10-09 13:44             ` Ingo Molnar
2008-10-09 13:44             ` Ingo Molnar
2008-10-09 16:50             ` Dave Hansen
2008-10-09 16:50               ` Dave Hansen
2008-10-10 15:39               ` Ingo Molnar
2008-10-10 15:39                 ` Ingo Molnar
     [not found]                 ` <20081010153951.GD28977-X9Un+BFzKDI@public.gmane.org>
2008-10-13  8:13                   ` Cedric Le Goater
2008-10-13  8:13                 ` Cedric Le Goater
2008-10-13  8:13                   ` Cedric Le Goater
2008-10-13 16:12                   ` Oren Laadan
2008-10-13 16:12                     ` Oren Laadan
     [not found]                     ` <48F3737B.6070904-eQaUEPhvms7ENvBUuze7eA@public.gmane.org>
2008-10-15 15:13                       ` Cedric Le Goater
2008-10-15 15:13                     ` Cedric Le Goater
2008-10-15 15:13                       ` Cedric Le Goater
2008-10-15 23:59                       ` Oren Laadan
2008-10-15 23:59                         ` Oren Laadan
     [not found]                       ` <48F60891.1070807-NmTC/0ZBporQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-10-15 23:59                         ` Oren Laadan
2008-10-13 16:43                   ` Dave Hansen
2008-10-13 16:43                     ` Dave Hansen
2008-10-15 15:15                     ` Cedric Le Goater
2008-10-15 15:15                       ` Cedric Le Goater
     [not found]                       ` <48F6092D.6050400-NmTC/0ZBporQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-10-16  0:06                         ` Oren Laadan
2008-10-16  0:06                       ` Oren Laadan
2008-10-16  0:06                         ` Oren Laadan
     [not found]                         ` <48F685A3.1060804-eQaUEPhvms7ENvBUuze7eA@public.gmane.org>
2008-10-16 12:35                           ` Daniel Lezcano
2008-10-16 12:35                         ` Daniel Lezcano
2008-10-16 12:35                           ` Daniel Lezcano
     [not found]                           ` <48F7352F.3020700-NmTC/0ZBporQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-10-16 13:49                             ` Oren Laadan
2008-10-16 13:49                           ` Oren Laadan
2008-10-16 13:49                             ` Oren Laadan
     [not found]                             ` <48F74674.20202-eQaUEPhvms7ENvBUuze7eA@public.gmane.org>
2008-10-16 22:51                               ` Peter Chubb
2008-10-16 22:51                             ` Peter Chubb
2008-10-16 22:51                               ` Peter Chubb
2008-10-17  6:30                               ` David Newall
2008-10-17  6:30                                 ` David Newall
     [not found]                                 ` <48F83121.7070705-KzQzY1MbaKjAHznzqCTclw@public.gmane.org>
2008-10-20 17:17                                   ` Dave Hansen
2008-10-20 17:17                                     ` Dave Hansen
2008-10-20 17:17                                     ` Dave Hansen
2008-10-17  6:44                               ` Cedric Le Goater [this message]
2008-10-17  6:44                                 ` Cedric Le Goater
     [not found]                               ` <87r66g8875.wl%peter-LkDQP0DxSMGxwJ88Py/mJxCuuivNXqWP@public.gmane.org>
2008-10-17  6:30                                 ` David Newall
2008-10-17  6:44                                 ` Cedric Le Goater
2008-10-17  7:08                                 ` Oren Laadan
2008-10-17  7:08                               ` Oren Laadan
2008-10-17  7:08                                 ` Oren Laadan
2008-10-15 15:15                     ` Cedric Le Goater
     [not found]                   ` <48F30315.1070909-NmTC/0ZBporQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-10-13 16:12                     ` Oren Laadan
2008-10-13 16:43                     ` Dave Hansen
2008-10-10 15:39               ` Ingo Molnar
     [not found]             ` <20081009134415.GA12135-X9Un+BFzKDI@public.gmane.org>
2008-10-09 16:50               ` Dave Hansen
2008-10-09 21:59         ` Greg Kurz
2008-10-09 21:59           ` Greg Kurz
     [not found]         ` <20081009131701.GA21112-X9Un+BFzKDI@public.gmane.org>
2008-10-09 13:34           ` Dave Hansen
2008-10-09 21:59           ` Greg Kurz
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-10-08 10:19 Oren Laadan

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=48F83458.2080602@fr.ibm.com \
    --to=clg@fr.ibm.com \
    --cc=arnd@arndb.de \
    --cc=containers@lists.linux-foundation.org \
    --cc=dave@linux.vnet.ibm.com \
    --cc=dlezcano@fr.ibm.com \
    --cc=hpa@zytor.com \
    --cc=jeremy@goop.org \
    --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-mm@kvack.org \
    --cc=major@openvz.org \
    --cc=mingo@elte.hu \
    --cc=orenl@cs.columbia.edu \
    --cc=peterc@gelato.unsw.edu.au \
    --cc=tglx@linutronix.de \
    --cc=viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is an external index of several public inboxes,
see mirroring instructions on how to clone and mirror
all data and code used by this external index.