From: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
To: Ric Wheeler <rwheeler@redhat.com>
Cc: Eric Anopolsky <erpo41@gmail.com>,
Chris Mason <chris.mason@oracle.com>,
Stephan von Krawczynski <skraw@ithnet.com>,
linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Some very basic questions
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 12:59:36 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <48FFF6A8.3000305@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <48FF5621.6020902@redhat.com>
Ric Wheeler wrote:
>> FS waiting for completion of all the dependent writes isn't too good
>> latency and throughput-wise tho. It would be best if FS can indicate
>> dependencies between write commands and barrier so that barrier
>> doesn't have to empty the whole queue. Hmm... Can someone tell me how
>> much such scheme would help?
>>
>>
> I think that this is where SCSI ordered tags come in (or similar
> schemes). The idea would be to have tag all IO. You bump the tag, for
> example after you send down the journal data blocks to a new tag which
> is used for the commit block data sequence.
>
> The ordering would require that lower ranked tags must all be destaged
> to persistent storage before a subsequent tag is written out.
>
> The T13 had a microsoft proposal that is in this area:
>
> http://www.t13.org/Documents/UploadedDocuments/docs2007/e07174r0-Write_Barrier_Command_Proposal.doc
Yeah, that's one thing although it still has the
undetected-write-errors in front of barrier problem (SCSI spec doesn't
have a way to detect that).
There's another queue, which can be considerably larger than the
on-device buffer - the block elevator queue. Currently, as the
elevator doesn't know what's dependent on what, it has to dump the
whole content of elevator before doing barrier. I don't know how much
it would help to do it selectively tho.
Thanks.
--
tejun
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-10-23 3:59 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-10-21 11:23 Some very basic questions Stephan von Krawczynski
2008-10-21 12:13 ` Andi Kleen
2008-10-21 14:22 ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2008-10-21 15:34 ` jim owens
2008-10-22 11:36 ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2008-10-22 12:15 ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-22 13:03 ` Ric Wheeler
2008-10-22 13:13 ` Chris Mason
2008-10-22 13:16 ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-21 13:20 ` jim owens
2008-10-21 17:01 ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2008-10-21 17:15 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-10-21 17:31 ` Ric Wheeler
2008-10-22 12:27 ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2008-10-22 13:15 ` Chris Mason
2008-10-22 13:27 ` Ric Wheeler
2008-10-22 14:32 ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-22 14:36 ` Chris Mason
2008-10-22 14:40 ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-22 14:46 ` Ric Wheeler
2008-10-22 14:54 ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-22 15:02 ` Ric Wheeler
2008-10-22 15:13 ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-22 15:25 ` Ric Wheeler
2008-10-22 15:33 ` Chris Mason
2008-10-22 15:43 ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-22 15:54 ` Ric Wheeler
2008-10-22 18:28 ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-22 15:39 ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-22 13:52 ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2008-10-22 15:56 ` Michel Salim
2008-10-22 16:56 ` jim owens
2008-10-23 9:47 ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2008-10-22 11:40 ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2008-10-21 13:59 ` Chris Mason
2008-10-21 16:09 ` Andi Kleen
2008-10-22 11:43 ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2008-10-21 16:27 ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2008-10-21 16:59 ` Andi Kleen
2008-10-22 11:46 ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2008-10-21 17:49 ` Chris Mason
2008-10-22 12:19 ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2008-10-22 12:48 ` Jeff Schroeder
2008-10-22 14:02 ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2008-10-22 13:50 ` Chris Mason
2008-10-22 14:04 ` Matthias Wächter
2008-10-22 14:32 ` Ric Wheeler
2008-10-22 14:44 ` jim owens
2008-10-24 8:42 ` Chris Samuel
2008-10-24 8:39 ` Chris Samuel
2008-10-21 20:54 ` Eric Anopolsky
2008-10-21 22:18 ` Ric Wheeler
2008-10-22 2:29 ` Eric Anopolsky
2008-10-22 10:42 ` Ric Wheeler
2008-10-22 10:53 ` Tejun Heo
2008-10-22 12:57 ` Ric Wheeler
2008-10-22 12:57 ` Ric Wheeler
2008-10-22 13:15 ` Tejun Heo
2008-10-22 13:19 ` Chris Mason
2008-10-22 13:38 ` Ric Wheeler
2008-10-22 13:59 ` Chris Mason
2008-10-22 14:23 ` Ric Wheeler
2008-10-22 13:23 ` Ric Wheeler
2008-10-22 16:14 ` Tejun Heo
2008-10-22 16:34 ` Ric Wheeler
2008-10-23 3:59 ` Tejun Heo [this message]
2008-10-22 18:32 ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-22 19:13 ` jim owens
2008-10-22 19:22 ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-22 19:59 ` Ric Wheeler
2008-10-22 21:31 ` Eric Anopolsky
2008-10-22 21:56 ` Ric Wheeler
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-10-21 17:37 calin
2008-10-21 20:08 ` jim owens
2008-10-22 7:15 ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-22 14:13 ` jim owens
2008-10-22 14:25 ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-22 14:35 dbz
2008-10-27 15:43 ` Stephan von Krawczynski
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