From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Muli Ben-Yehuda <muli@il.ibm.com>
Cc: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>, Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>,
Matthew Wilcox <matthew@wil.cx>, H L <swdevyid@yahoo.com>,
Yu Zhao <yu.zhao@intel.com>,
randy.dunlap@oracle.com, grundler@parisc-linux.org,
achiang@hp.com, linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, rdreier@cisco.com,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, jbarnes@virtuousgeek.org,
virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
mingo@elte.hu, Chris Wright <chrisw@sous-sol.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/16 v6] PCI: Linux kernel SR-IOV support
Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2008 15:03:21 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4916DF99.6020107@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20081109064147.GD7123@il.ibm.com>
Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote:
>> We've been talking about avoiding hardware passthrough entirely and
>> just backing a virtio-net backend driver by a dedicated VF in the
>> host. That avoids a huge amount of guest-facing complexity, let's
>> migration Just Work, and should give the same level of performance.
>>
>
> I don't believe that it will, and every benchmark I've seen or have
> done so far shows a significant performance gap between virtio and
> direct assignment, even on 1G ethernet. I am willing however to
> reserve judgement until someone implements your suggestion and
> actually measures it, preferably on 10G ethernet.
>
Right now virtio copies data, and has other inefficiencies. With a
dedicated VF, we can eliminate the copies.
CPU utilization and latency will be worse. If we can limit the
slowdowns to an acceptable amount, the simplicity and other advantages
of VF-in-host may outweigh the performance degradation.
> No doubt device assignment---and SR-IOV in particular---are complex,
> but I hardly think ignoring it as you seem to propose is the right
> approach.
I agree. We should hedge our bets and support both models.
--
error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-11-09 13:04 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 244+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-10-22 8:38 [PATCH 0/16 v6] PCI: Linux kernel SR-IOV support Yu Zhao
2008-10-22 8:40 ` [PATCH 1/16 v6] PCI: remove unnecessary arg of pci_update_resource() Yu Zhao
2008-10-22 8:40 ` Yu Zhao
2008-10-22 8:40 ` [PATCH 2/16 v6] PCI: define PCI resource names in an 'enum' Yu Zhao
2008-10-22 8:40 ` Yu Zhao
2008-10-22 14:24 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2008-10-22 14:24 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2008-10-22 14:44 ` Yu Zhao
2008-10-22 14:44 ` Yu Zhao
2008-10-22 14:51 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2008-10-22 14:53 ` Yu Zhao
2008-10-22 14:53 ` Yu Zhao
2008-10-22 14:51 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2008-11-14 0:43 ` Simon Horman
2008-10-22 8:41 ` [PATCH 3/16 v6] PCI: export __pci_read_base Yu Zhao
2008-10-22 8:41 ` Yu Zhao
2008-10-22 8:41 ` [PATCH 4/16 v6] PCI: make pci_alloc_child_bus() be able to handle NULL bridge Yu Zhao
2008-10-22 8:41 ` Yu Zhao
2008-10-22 8:41 ` [PATCH 5/16 v6] PCI: add a wrapper for resource_alignment() Yu Zhao
2008-10-22 8:41 ` Yu Zhao
2008-10-22 8:42 ` [PATCH 6/16 v6] PCI: add a new function to map BAR offset Yu Zhao
2008-10-22 8:42 ` Yu Zhao
2008-10-22 8:42 ` [PATCH 7/16 v6] PCI: cleanup pcibios_allocate_resources() Yu Zhao
2008-10-22 8:42 ` Yu Zhao
2008-10-23 7:10 ` Yinghai Lu
2008-10-23 6:50 ` Yu Zhao
2008-10-23 6:50 ` Yu Zhao
2008-10-23 7:10 ` Yinghai Lu
2008-10-22 8:43 ` [PATCH 8/16 v6] PCI: add boot options to reassign resources Yu Zhao
2008-10-22 8:43 ` Yu Zhao
2008-10-22 14:35 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2008-10-22 14:49 ` Yu Zhao
2008-10-22 14:49 ` Yu Zhao
2008-10-22 14:35 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2008-10-22 8:43 ` [PATCH 9/16 v6] PCI: add boot option to align MMIO resources Yu Zhao
2008-10-22 14:34 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2008-10-22 14:52 ` Yu Zhao
2008-10-22 14:52 ` Yu Zhao
2008-10-22 14:34 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2008-10-22 8:43 ` Yu Zhao
2008-10-22 8:43 ` [PATCH 10/16 v6] PCI: cleanup pci_bus_add_devices() Yu Zhao
2008-10-22 8:43 ` Yu Zhao
2008-10-22 8:44 ` [PATCH 11/16 v6] PCI: split a new function from pci_bus_add_devices() Yu Zhao
2008-10-22 8:44 ` Yu Zhao
2008-10-22 8:44 ` [PATCH 12/16 v6] PCI: support the SR-IOV capability Yu Zhao
2008-10-22 8:44 ` Yu Zhao
2008-10-22 8:44 ` [PATCH 13/16 v6] PCI: reserve bus range for SR-IOV device Yu Zhao
2008-10-22 8:44 ` Yu Zhao
2008-10-22 8:45 ` [PATCH 14/16 v6] PCI: document for SR-IOV user and developer Yu Zhao
2008-10-22 8:45 ` Yu Zhao
2008-10-22 8:45 ` [PATCH 15/16 v6] PCI: document the SR-IOV sysfs entries Yu Zhao
2008-11-06 4:33 ` Greg KH
2008-11-06 4:33 ` Greg KH
2008-11-06 4:46 ` Greg KH
2008-11-06 4:46 ` Greg KH
2008-11-07 3:01 ` Zhao, Yu
2008-11-07 3:18 ` Greg KH
2008-11-07 3:18 ` Greg KH
2008-11-13 6:50 ` Yu Zhao
2008-11-14 0:55 ` Greg KH
2008-11-17 8:09 ` Yu Zhao
2008-11-18 15:05 ` Greg KH
2008-11-18 15:05 ` Greg KH
2008-11-18 16:49 ` Kay Sievers
2008-11-18 16:49 ` Kay Sievers
2008-11-17 8:09 ` Yu Zhao
2008-11-13 6:50 ` Yu Zhao
2008-11-07 3:01 ` Zhao, Yu
2008-10-22 8:45 ` Yu Zhao
2008-10-22 8:45 ` [PATCH 16/16 v6] PCI: document the new PCI boot parameters Yu Zhao
2008-10-22 14:27 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2008-10-22 14:27 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2008-10-22 17:01 ` Randy Dunlap
2008-10-22 17:01 ` Randy Dunlap
2008-11-06 4:32 ` Greg KH
2008-11-07 2:37 ` Zhao, Yu
2008-11-07 2:50 ` Greg KH
2008-11-07 2:50 ` Greg KH
2008-11-07 3:40 ` Zhao, Yu
2008-11-07 3:40 ` Zhao, Yu
2008-11-07 4:17 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-12-11 1:43 ` Yu Zhao
2008-12-11 4:33 ` Grant Grundler
2008-12-11 4:33 ` Grant Grundler
2008-12-11 15:39 ` H L
2008-12-11 15:39 ` H L
2008-12-11 1:43 ` Yu Zhao
2008-11-07 4:17 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-11-07 6:16 ` Greg KH
2008-11-07 6:16 ` Greg KH
2008-11-07 7:50 ` Zhao, Yu
2008-11-07 8:02 ` Greg KH
2008-11-07 8:17 ` Zhao, Yu
2008-11-07 8:24 ` Greg KH
2008-11-07 8:35 ` Zhao, Yu
2008-11-07 8:35 ` Zhao, Yu
2008-11-07 18:53 ` Greg KH
2008-11-07 18:53 ` Greg KH
2008-11-08 5:00 ` Yu Zhao
2008-11-08 5:00 ` Yu Zhao
2008-11-08 5:25 ` Greg KH
2008-11-08 6:05 ` Yu Zhao
2008-11-08 6:05 ` Yu Zhao
2008-11-08 5:25 ` Greg KH
2008-11-08 5:50 ` freevanx
2008-11-08 5:54 ` Greg KH
2008-11-08 5:54 ` Greg KH
2008-11-07 8:24 ` Greg KH
2008-11-07 8:17 ` Zhao, Yu
2008-11-07 8:02 ` Greg KH
2008-11-07 7:50 ` Zhao, Yu
2008-11-09 14:19 ` Pavel Machek
2008-11-09 14:34 ` Alexander Graf
2008-11-09 14:34 ` Alexander Graf
2008-11-09 14:19 ` Pavel Machek
2008-11-07 2:37 ` Zhao, Yu
2008-11-06 4:32 ` Greg KH
2008-10-22 8:45 ` Yu Zhao
2008-11-06 4:48 ` [PATCH 0/16 v6] PCI: Linux kernel SR-IOV support Greg KH
2008-11-06 15:40 ` H L
2008-11-06 15:40 ` H L
2008-11-06 15:43 ` Greg KH
2008-11-06 15:43 ` Greg KH
2008-11-06 16:41 ` H L
2008-11-06 16:49 ` Greg KH
2008-11-06 17:38 ` Fischer, Anna
2008-11-06 18:03 ` Greg KH
2008-11-06 18:03 ` Greg KH
2008-11-06 20:04 ` Fischer, Anna
2008-11-06 20:04 ` Fischer, Anna
2008-11-09 12:44 ` Avi Kivity
2008-11-09 19:25 ` Greg KH
2008-11-09 19:25 ` Greg KH
2008-11-09 19:37 ` Avi Kivity
2008-11-09 19:37 ` Avi Kivity
2008-11-11 6:08 ` Greg KH
2008-11-11 9:00 ` Avi Kivity
2008-11-11 9:00 ` Avi Kivity
2008-11-11 6:08 ` Greg KH
2008-11-09 12:44 ` Avi Kivity
2008-11-06 18:36 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-11-06 18:36 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-11-06 22:38 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-11-06 22:58 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-11-06 22:58 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-11-07 6:19 ` Greg KH
2008-11-07 6:19 ` Greg KH
2008-11-07 15:17 ` Yu Zhao
2008-11-07 18:48 ` Greg KH
2008-11-08 11:09 ` Fischer, Anna
2008-11-08 11:09 ` Fischer, Anna
2008-11-08 11:09 ` Fischer, Anna
2008-11-08 15:37 ` Leonid Grossman
2008-11-08 15:37 ` Leonid Grossman
2008-11-13 7:49 ` Yu Zhao
2008-11-13 7:49 ` Yu Zhao
2008-11-13 7:49 ` Yu Zhao
2008-11-07 18:48 ` Greg KH
2008-11-07 15:17 ` Yu Zhao
2008-11-09 12:47 ` Avi Kivity
2008-11-09 12:47 ` Avi Kivity
2008-11-07 1:52 ` Dong, Eddie
2008-11-07 1:52 ` Dong, Eddie
2008-11-07 2:08 ` Nakajima, Jun
2008-11-07 2:08 ` Nakajima, Jun
2008-11-07 15:21 ` Andi Kleen
2008-11-09 12:53 ` Avi Kivity
2008-11-09 12:53 ` Avi Kivity
2008-11-07 15:21 ` Andi Kleen
2008-11-12 22:41 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-11-16 16:04 ` Avi Kivity
2008-11-16 16:04 ` Avi Kivity
2008-11-17 1:46 ` Zhao, Yu
2008-11-17 1:46 ` Zhao, Yu
2008-11-12 22:41 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-11-07 16:01 ` Yu Zhao
2008-11-07 16:01 ` Yu Zhao
2008-11-06 22:38 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-11-06 17:38 ` Fischer, Anna
2008-11-06 17:47 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-11-06 17:47 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-11-06 17:53 ` Greg KH
2008-11-06 22:24 ` Simon Horman
2008-11-06 22:24 ` Simon Horman
2008-11-06 22:40 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-11-07 6:17 ` Greg KH
2008-11-07 7:47 ` Zhao, Yu
2008-11-11 0:18 ` Rusty Russell
2008-11-17 12:01 ` Yu Zhao
2008-11-17 12:01 ` Yu Zhao
2008-11-07 7:47 ` Zhao, Yu
2008-11-09 12:58 ` Avi Kivity
2008-11-09 12:58 ` Avi Kivity
2008-11-07 6:17 ` Greg KH
2008-11-09 6:41 ` Muli Ben-Yehuda
2008-11-09 13:03 ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2008-11-09 13:03 ` Avi Kivity
2008-11-09 6:41 ` Muli Ben-Yehuda
2008-11-06 22:40 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-11-06 23:54 ` Chris Wright
2008-11-07 6:10 ` Greg KH
2008-11-07 6:10 ` Greg KH
2008-11-07 7:06 ` Zhao, Yu
2008-11-07 7:29 ` Leonid Grossman
2008-11-07 7:29 ` Leonid Grossman
2008-11-07 7:06 ` Zhao, Yu
2008-11-06 23:54 ` Chris Wright
2008-11-06 17:53 ` Greg KH
2008-11-06 18:05 ` H L
2008-11-06 18:05 ` H L
2008-11-06 18:24 ` Greg KH
2008-11-06 21:35 ` Fischer, Anna
2008-11-07 6:18 ` Greg KH
2008-11-07 6:03 ` Zhao, Yu
2008-11-07 6:03 ` Zhao, Yu
2008-11-06 18:24 ` Greg KH
2008-11-06 16:49 ` Greg KH
2008-11-06 16:41 ` H L
2008-11-06 16:51 ` git repository for SR-IOV development? H L
2008-11-06 16:51 ` H L
2008-11-06 16:59 ` Greg KH
2008-11-06 19:58 ` H L
2008-11-06 19:58 ` H L
2008-11-06 22:56 ` Simon Horman
2008-11-06 22:56 ` Simon Horman
2008-11-06 22:56 ` Simon Horman
2008-11-07 1:58 ` Greg KH
2008-11-07 13:09 ` Yu Zhao
2008-11-07 13:09 ` Yu Zhao
2008-11-07 1:58 ` Greg KH
2008-11-06 16:59 ` Greg KH
2008-11-06 16:51 ` H L
2008-11-07 5:18 ` [PATCH 0/16 v6] PCI: Linux kernel SR-IOV support Zhao, Yu
2008-11-07 5:18 ` Zhao, Yu
2008-11-07 6:07 ` Greg KH
2008-11-07 6:07 ` Greg KH
2008-11-06 4:48 ` Greg KH
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-10-22 8:38 Yu Zhao
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[not found] ` <43F901BD926A4E43B106BF17856F07552F2E8F20@orsmsx508.amr.corp.intel.com>
[not found] ` <491D2F23.1080005@intel.com>
2008-11-14 17:40 ` Greg KH
2008-11-14 17:48 ` Rose, Gregory V
2008-11-14 18:39 ` Greg KH
2008-11-14 18:49 ` Ronciak, John
2008-11-14 19:30 ` Greg KH
2008-11-14 18:53 ` Rose, Gregory V
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