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From: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>
To: kvm-ia64@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: qemu-kvm.git now live
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 15:42:36 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <49F8756C.6080503@siemens.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <49F08BD0.6000706@redhat.com>

Avi Kivity wrote:
> Jan Kiszka wrote:
>>> If migration disables dirty memory logging, it must keep the vga logging
>>> enabled, and vice versa.
>>>     
>>
>> So we need some notifier callbacks on slot changes so that all users can
>> re-enable dirty logging after the update as required. 
> 
> Simpler to do reference counting.  When a user enables logging for a
> memory range, the refcount for all slots containing that range gets
> bumped.  When a user enables logging for all of memory, a global
> refcount is bumped.  For a given slot, dirty logging is enabled if
> either the slot logging refcount or the global logging refcount is nonzero.

OK, but then we just need to check for that global flag after
registering/modifying slots and enable logging unconditionally. That's
indeed a simple add-on.

> 
> That's sort of what's implemented in qemu-kvm.git.  In qemu.git vga
> logging does not get disabled, which is really broken.  It prevents
> optimizations like disabling logging when the screen is not displayed to
> a human.

Is there a channel that tells vga "nothing will be displayed"? I may
have missed it while removing all those disable-logging-as-it-may-
confuse-slot-management hooks.

> 
>> Where/how does the
>> migration code disable dirty logging?
>>   
> 
> Should be phase 3 of ram_save_live().

But only in qemu-kvm. What is the plan about pushing it upstream? Then
we could discuss how to extend the exiting support best.

Jan

-- 
Siemens AG, Corporate Technology, CT SE 2
Corporate Competence Center Embedded Linux

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Cc: KVM list <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>,
	Hollis Blanchard <hollisb@us.ibm.com>,
	"Zhang, Xiantao" <xiantao.zhang@intel.com>,
	kvm-ppc <kvm-ppc@vger.kernel.org>,
	"kvm-ia64@vger.kernel.org" <kvm-ia64@vger.kernel.org>,
	Carsten Otte <cotte@de.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: qemu-kvm.git now live
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 15:42:36 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <49F8756C.6080503@siemens.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <49F866C3.8090904@redhat.com>

Avi Kivity wrote:
> Jan Kiszka wrote:
>>> If migration disables dirty memory logging, it must keep the vga logging
>>> enabled, and vice versa.
>>>     
>>
>> So we need some notifier callbacks on slot changes so that all users can
>> re-enable dirty logging after the update as required. 
> 
> Simpler to do reference counting.  When a user enables logging for a
> memory range, the refcount for all slots containing that range gets
> bumped.  When a user enables logging for all of memory, a global
> refcount is bumped.  For a given slot, dirty logging is enabled if
> either the slot logging refcount or the global logging refcount is nonzero.

OK, but then we just need to check for that global flag after
registering/modifying slots and enable logging unconditionally. That's
indeed a simple add-on.

> 
> That's sort of what's implemented in qemu-kvm.git.  In qemu.git vga
> logging does not get disabled, which is really broken.  It prevents
> optimizations like disabling logging when the screen is not displayed to
> a human.

Is there a channel that tells vga "nothing will be displayed"? I may
have missed it while removing all those disable-logging-as-it-may-
confuse-slot-management hooks.

> 
>> Where/how does the
>> migration code disable dirty logging?
>>   
> 
> Should be phase 3 of ram_save_live().

But only in qemu-kvm. What is the plan about pushing it upstream? Then
we could discuss how to extend the exiting support best.

Jan

-- 
Siemens AG, Corporate Technology, CT SE 2
Corporate Competence Center Embedded Linux

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Cc: KVM list <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>,
	Hollis Blanchard <hollisb@us.ibm.com>,
	"Zhang, Xiantao" <xiantao.zhang@intel.com>,
	kvm-ppc <kvm-ppc@vger.kernel.org>,
	"kvm-ia64@vger.kernel.org" <kvm-ia64@vger.kernel.org>,
	Carsten Otte <cotte@de.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: qemu-kvm.git now live
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 17:42:36 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <49F8756C.6080503@siemens.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <49F866C3.8090904@redhat.com>

Avi Kivity wrote:
> Jan Kiszka wrote:
>>> If migration disables dirty memory logging, it must keep the vga logging
>>> enabled, and vice versa.
>>>     
>>
>> So we need some notifier callbacks on slot changes so that all users can
>> re-enable dirty logging after the update as required. 
> 
> Simpler to do reference counting.  When a user enables logging for a
> memory range, the refcount for all slots containing that range gets
> bumped.  When a user enables logging for all of memory, a global
> refcount is bumped.  For a given slot, dirty logging is enabled if
> either the slot logging refcount or the global logging refcount is nonzero.

OK, but then we just need to check for that global flag after
registering/modifying slots and enable logging unconditionally. That's
indeed a simple add-on.

> 
> That's sort of what's implemented in qemu-kvm.git.  In qemu.git vga
> logging does not get disabled, which is really broken.  It prevents
> optimizations like disabling logging when the screen is not displayed to
> a human.

Is there a channel that tells vga "nothing will be displayed"? I may
have missed it while removing all those disable-logging-as-it-may-
confuse-slot-management hooks.

> 
>> Where/how does the
>> migration code disable dirty logging?
>>   
> 
> Should be phase 3 of ram_save_live().

But only in qemu-kvm. What is the plan about pushing it upstream? Then
we could discuss how to extend the exiting support best.

Jan

-- 
Siemens AG, Corporate Technology, CT SE 2
Corporate Competence Center Embedded Linux

  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-04-29 15:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 108+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-04-23 15:40 qemu-kvm.git now live Avi Kivity
2009-04-23 15:40 ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-23 15:40 ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-23 17:33 ` walt
2009-04-23 17:33   ` walt
2009-04-23 17:42 ` Cam Macdonell
2009-04-24 18:14   ` walt
2009-04-25  9:25     ` [PATCH] qemu-kvm: build system Add link to qemu Jan Kiszka
2009-04-26 10:33       ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-26 11:20         ` Jan Kiszka
2009-04-26 11:39           ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-26 12:24             ` Jan Kiszka
2009-04-26 12:33               ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-26 12:37                 ` Jan Kiszka
2009-04-26 12:46                   ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-26 11:34         ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-05-03  9:16       ` Avi Kivity
2009-05-04 21:01         ` Jan Kiszka
2009-04-26  9:20   ` qemu-kvm.git now live Avi Kivity
2009-04-27  1:00     ` Cameron Macdonell
2009-04-27  6:28       ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-24  2:49 ` Liu Yu-B13201
2009-04-24  2:49   ` Liu Yu-B13201
2009-04-24 10:16   ` Andreas Winkelbauer
     [not found]   ` <0A1FE637C2C7E148B9573BB60CC630E5210156-bKEhWGtIRUJ4Lp7cDGe+DVjVikpgYyvb5NbjCUgZEJk@public.gmane.org>
2009-04-26  9:22     ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-26  9:22       ` Avi Kivity
     [not found] ` <49F08BD0.6000706-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-04-28 21:53   ` Hollis Blanchard
2009-04-28 21:53     ` Hollis Blanchard
     [not found]     ` <1240955602.24625.57.camel-EGjIuKC2qUdB0N6nvOmcJFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2009-04-28 22:20       ` Anthony Liguori
2009-04-28 22:20         ` Anthony Liguori
2009-04-28 22:24         ` Glauber Costa
2009-04-28 22:24           ` Glauber Costa
     [not found]           ` <5d6222a80904281524v5eb5b163pd21e7d6643cbdbc6-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2009-04-28 22:28             ` Anthony Liguori
2009-04-28 22:28               ` Anthony Liguori
2009-04-28 22:34               ` Hollis Blanchard
2009-04-28 22:34                 ` Hollis Blanchard
     [not found]         ` <49F78134.30904-rdkfGonbjUSkNkDKm+mE6A@public.gmane.org>
2009-04-28 22:33           ` Hollis Blanchard
2009-04-28 22:33             ` Hollis Blanchard
     [not found]             ` <1240957999.24625.60.camel-EGjIuKC2qUdB0N6nvOmcJFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2009-04-29  8:31               ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-29  8:31                 ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]                 ` <49F81054.4010102-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-01 21:51                   ` Hollis Blanchard
2009-05-01 21:51                     ` Hollis Blanchard
     [not found]                     ` <1241214678.32624.176.camel-EGjIuKC2qUdB0N6nvOmcJFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-02  7:52                       ` Avi Kivity
2009-05-02  7:52                         ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]                         ` <49FBFBC4.10905-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-04 21:35                           ` Hollis Blanchard
2009-05-04 21:35                             ` Hollis Blanchard
2009-04-29  8:29       ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-29  8:29         ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]         ` <49F80FE2.5030600-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-01 21:23           ` Hollis Blanchard
2009-05-01 21:23             ` Hollis Blanchard
     [not found]             ` <1241213025.32624.167.camel-EGjIuKC2qUdB0N6nvOmcJFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-01 22:55               ` Anthony Liguori
2009-05-01 22:55                 ` Anthony Liguori
     [not found]                 ` <49FB7DF4.60201-rdkfGonbjUSkNkDKm+mE6A@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-02  7:42                   ` Avi Kivity
2009-05-02  7:42                     ` Avi Kivity
2009-05-02  7:54               ` Avi Kivity
2009-05-02  7:54                 ` Avi Kivity
2009-05-02  7:58               ` Avi Kivity
2009-05-02  7:58                 ` Avi Kivity
2009-05-02 14:50               ` Muli Ben-Yehuda
2009-05-02 14:50                 ` Muli Ben-Yehuda
2009-04-29  8:49 ` Jan Kiszka
2009-04-29  8:49   ` Jan Kiszka
2009-04-29  8:49   ` Jan Kiszka
2009-04-29 10:42 ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-29 10:42   ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-29 10:42   ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-29 10:55 ` Jan Kiszka
2009-04-29 10:55   ` Jan Kiszka
2009-04-29 10:55   ` Jan Kiszka
2009-04-29 11:12 ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-29 11:12   ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-29 11:12   ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-29 11:31 ` Jan Kiszka
2009-04-29 11:31   ` Jan Kiszka
2009-04-29 11:31   ` Jan Kiszka
2009-04-29 14:40 ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-29 14:40   ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-29 14:40   ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-29 15:42 ` Jan Kiszka [this message]
2009-04-29 15:42   ` Jan Kiszka
2009-04-29 15:42   ` Jan Kiszka
2009-04-30  9:12 ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-30  9:12   ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-30  9:12   ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-30  9:29 ` Jan Kiszka
2009-04-30  9:29   ` Jan Kiszka
2009-04-30  9:29   ` Jan Kiszka
2009-04-30 10:54 ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-30 10:54   ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-30 10:54   ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-30 15:32 ` Jan Kiszka
2009-04-30 15:32   ` Jan Kiszka
2009-04-30 15:32   ` Jan Kiszka
2009-04-30 15:43 ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-30 15:43   ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-30 15:43   ` Avi Kivity
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2009-04-26  7:38 [PATCH] qemu-kvm: configure script fixups after qemu-kvm reorg Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-04-26  7:38 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-04-26  7:38 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-04-26  7:48 ` Gleb Natapov
2009-04-26  7:48   ` Gleb Natapov
2009-04-26  7:48   ` Gleb Natapov
2009-04-26  8:15 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-04-26  8:15   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-04-26  8:15   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-04-26  8:51 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-04-26  8:51   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-04-26  8:51   ` Michael S. Tsirkin

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