Testers wanted: New SB X-Fi driver

Testers wanted: New SB X-Fi driver

[Frashman]

Hi Takashi,

first of all, thank you for developing this driver.
I tested it today. It works, so far.

But two annoying things. As you mentioned, I got problems, if the 
onboard sound modules are loaded. Then i get no sound out auf my xfi.
If I disable the loading of snd-hda-intel modules while booting, then it 
works.

The second problem is, that SIDE and SURROUND connectors are 
interchanged. I'm absolutly sure, it works fine under windows and the 
connector colors are also correct.

If I run speaker-test -c8 the SIDE Speakers sounds come out of my REAR 
(SURROUND) Speakers, while nothing is coming out of my rear speakers, if 
i'm using speaker-test -c6


Here lspci:

$ lspci
00:00.0 Host bridge: ATI Technologies Inc RD780 Northbridge only dual 
slot PCI-e_GFX and HT1 K8 part
00:02.0 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc RD790 PCI to PCI bridge 
(external gfx0 port A)
00:04.0 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc RD790 PCI to PCI bridge (PCI 
express gpp port A)
00:0a.0 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc RD790 PCI to PCI bridge (PCI 
express gpp port F)
00:12.0 SATA controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 Non-Raid-5 SATA
00:13.0 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 USB (OHCI0)
00:13.1 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 USB (OHCI1)
00:13.2 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 USB (OHCI2)
00:13.3 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 USB (OHCI3)
00:13.4 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 USB (OHCI4)
00:13.5 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 USB Controller (EHCI)
00:14.0 SMBus: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 SMBus Controller (rev 14)
00:14.1 IDE interface: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 IDE
00:14.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA)
00:14.3 ISA bridge: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 PCI to LPC Bridge
00:14.4 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 PCI to PCI Bridge
00:18.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] 
HyperTransport Technology Configuration
00:18.1 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] 
Address Map
00:18.2 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] 
DRAM Controller
00:18.3 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] 
Miscellaneous Control
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV770 [Radeon HD 
4850]
01:00.1 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc HD48x0 audio
02:00.0 Audio device: Creative Labs X-Fi Titanium series [EMU20k2] (rev 03)
03:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. 
RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller (rev 01)
04:06.0 Multimedia video controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Video 
Capture (rev 11)
04:06.1 Multimedia controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Audio Capture 
(rev 11)
04:0e.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Texas Instruments TSB43AB23 
IEEE-1394a-2000 Controller (PHY/Link)



Thank you so far,
Frashman

Re: Testers wanted: New SB X-Fi driver

[Ted T. Logan]

Is there a new driver that was supposed to be referenced in this or
something?

My sb0670 still has the clicks and is unusable with this driver.

Thanks!

On Wed, 2009-07-15 at 12:55 +0200, Frashman wrote:

> Hi Takashi,
> 
> first of all, thank you for developing this driver.
> I tested it today. It works, so far.
> 
> But two annoying things. As you mentioned, I got problems, if the 
> onboard sound modules are loaded. Then i get no sound out auf my xfi.
> If I disable the loading of snd-hda-intel modules while booting, then it 
> works.
> 
> The second problem is, that SIDE and SURROUND connectors are 
> interchanged. I'm absolutly sure, it works fine under windows and the 
> connector colors are also correct.
> 
> If I run speaker-test -c8 the SIDE Speakers sounds come out of my REAR 
> (SURROUND) Speakers, while nothing is coming out of my rear speakers, if 
> i'm using speaker-test -c6
> 
> 
> Here lspci:
> 
> $ lspci
> 00:00.0 Host bridge: ATI Technologies Inc RD780 Northbridge only dual 
> slot PCI-e_GFX and HT1 K8 part
> 00:02.0 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc RD790 PCI to PCI bridge 
> (external gfx0 port A)
> 00:04.0 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc RD790 PCI to PCI bridge (PCI 
> express gpp port A)
> 00:0a.0 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc RD790 PCI to PCI bridge (PCI 
> express gpp port F)
> 00:12.0 SATA controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 Non-Raid-5 SATA
> 00:13.0 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 USB (OHCI0)
> 00:13.1 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 USB (OHCI1)
> 00:13.2 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 USB (OHCI2)
> 00:13.3 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 USB (OHCI3)
> 00:13.4 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 USB (OHCI4)
> 00:13.5 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 USB Controller (EHCI)
> 00:14.0 SMBus: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 SMBus Controller (rev 14)
> 00:14.1 IDE interface: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 IDE
> 00:14.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA)
> 00:14.3 ISA bridge: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 PCI to LPC Bridge
> 00:14.4 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 PCI to PCI Bridge
> 00:18.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] 
> HyperTransport Technology Configuration
> 00:18.1 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] 
> Address Map
> 00:18.2 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] 
> DRAM Controller
> 00:18.3 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] 
> Miscellaneous Control
> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV770 [Radeon HD 
> 4850]
> 01:00.1 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc HD48x0 audio
> 02:00.0 Audio device: Creative Labs X-Fi Titanium series [EMU20k2] (rev 03)
> 03:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. 
> RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller (rev 01)
> 04:06.0 Multimedia video controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Video 
> Capture (rev 11)
> 04:06.1 Multimedia controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Audio Capture 
> (rev 11)
> 04:0e.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Texas Instruments TSB43AB23 
> IEEE-1394a-2000 Controller (PHY/Link)
> 
> 
> 
> Thank you so far,
> Frashman
> 
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Re: Testers wanted: New SB X-Fi driver

[Takashi Iwai]

At Wed, 15 Jul 2009 12:55:23 +0200,
Frashman wrote:
> 
> Hi Takashi,
> 
> first of all, thank you for developing this driver.
> I tested it today. It works, so far.
> 
> But two annoying things. As you mentioned, I got problems, if the 
> onboard sound modules are loaded. Then i get no sound out auf my xfi.

It's likely the collision of PCI device ID.
Some X-Fi models support both HD-audio and emu20kx-native modes.  The
modes are switched by some magical sequence.

Anyway, please run alsa-info.sh with --no-upload option, and attach
the generated file.

> If I disable the loading of snd-hda-intel modules while booting, then it 
> works.
> 
> The second problem is, that SIDE and SURROUND connectors are 
> interchanged. I'm absolutly sure, it works fine under windows and the 
> connector colors are also correct.
> 
> If I run speaker-test -c8 the SIDE Speakers sounds come out of my REAR 
> (SURROUND) Speakers, while nothing is coming out of my rear speakers, if 
> i'm using speaker-test -c6

So, the side channels (channel 7 & 8) and the rear channels (3 & 4)
are swapped when running with 8 channel mode?


Takashi

Re: Testers wanted: New SB X-Fi driver

[Frashman]

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Takashi Iwai schrieb:
> At Wed, 15 Jul 2009 12:55:23 +0200,
> Frashman wrote:
>  
>> Hi Takashi,
>>
>> first of all, thank you for developing this driver.
>> I tested it today. It works, so far.
>>
>> But two annoying things. As you mentioned, I got problems, if the 
>> onboard sound modules are loaded. Then i get no sound out auf my xfi.
>>     
>
> It's likely the collision of PCI device ID.
> Some X-Fi models support both HD-audio and emu20kx-native modes.  The
> modes are switched by some magical sequence.
>
> Anyway, please run alsa-info.sh with --no-upload option, and attach
> the generated file.
>   
I let the kernel auto probe all sound modules and generated then the 
alsa-info.txt
It's attached.
>  
>> If I disable the loading of snd-hda-intel modules while booting, then 
>> it works.
>>
>> The second problem is, that SIDE and SURROUND connectors are 
>> interchanged. I'm absolutly sure, it works fine under windows and the 
>> connector colors are also correct.
>>
>> If I run speaker-test -c8 the SIDE Speakers sounds come out of my 
>> REAR (SURROUND) Speakers, while nothing is coming out of my rear 
>> speakers, if i'm using speaker-test -c6
>>     
>
> So, the side channels (channel 7 & 8) and the rear channels (3 & 4)
> are swapped when running with 8 channel mode?
>   
The REAR and SURROUND channels are swapped in 4, 6 and 8channel mode ... 
so they always swapped. (speaker-test)
AND because there are swapped in 6channel mode too .... there is nothing 
coming out of the rear channels, if I connect everything right. I double 
checked it with windows and with cable colors.


Sincerely,
Frashman
> Takashi
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>   

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upload=true&script=true&cardinfo=
!!################################
!!ALSA Information Script v 0.4.57
!!################################

!!Script ran on: Thu Jul 16 10:02:39 UTC 2009


!!Linux Distribution
!!------------------

Arch Linux \r (\n) (\l)


!!DMI Information
!!---------------

Manufacturer:      Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd.
Product Name:      GA-MA790X-DS4


!!Kernel Information
!!------------------

Kernel release:    2.6.30-ARCH
Operating System:  GNU/Linux
Architecture:      x86_64
Processor:         AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4800+
SMP Enabled:       Yes


!!ALSA Version
!!------------

Driver version:     1.0.20
Library version:    1.0.20
Utilities version:  1.0.20


!!Loaded ALSA modules
!!-------------------

snd_hda_intel
snd_ctxfi
snd_usb_audio
snd_hda_intel
snd_bt87x


!!Sound Servers on this system
!!----------------------------

ESound Daemon:
      Installed - Yes (/usr/bin/esd)
      Running - No

Jack:
      Installed - Yes (/usr/bin/jackd)
      Running - No


!!Soundcards recognised by ALSA
!!-----------------------------

 0 [SB             ]: HDA-Intel - HDA ATI SB
                      HDA ATI SB at 0xfe024000 irq 16
 1 [XFi            ]: SB-XFi - Creative X-Fi
                      Creative X-Fi 20K2 SB0880
 2 [U0x46d0x9a1    ]: USB-Audio - USB Device 0x46d:0x9a1
                      USB Device 0x46d:0x9a1 at usb-0000:00:13.5-3, high speed
 3 [HDMI           ]: HDA-Intel - HDA ATI HDMI
                      HDA ATI HDMI at 0xfdffc000 irq 19
 4 [Bt878          ]: Bt87x - Brooktree Bt878
                      Brooktree Bt878 at 0xfdafe000, irq 20


!!PCI Soundcards installed in the system
!!--------------------------------------

00:14.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA)
01:00.1 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc HD48x0 audio
02:00.0 Audio device: Creative Labs X-Fi Titanium series [EMU20k2] (rev 03)
04:06.0 Multimedia video controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Video Capture (rev 11)
04:06.1 Multimedia controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Audio Capture (rev 11)


!!Advanced information - PCI Vendor/Device/Susbsystem ID's
!!--------------------------------------------------------

00:14.2 0403: 1002:4383
	Subsystem: 1458:a002
--
01:00.1 0403: 1002:aa30
	Subsystem: 1002:aa30
--
02:00.0 0403: 1102:000b (rev 03)
	Subsystem: 1102:0041


!!Loaded sound module options
!!--------------------------

!!Module: snd_hda_intel
	bdl_pos_adj : 32,32,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1
	enable : Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y
	enable_msi : 0
	id : <NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>
	index : -1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1
	model : <NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>
	patch : <NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>
	position_fix : 0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
	power_save : 0
	power_save_controller : Y
	probe_mask : -1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1
	probe_only : N,N,N,N,N,N,N,N
	single_cmd : N

!!Module: snd_ctxfi
	enable : Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y
	id : <NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>
	index : -1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1
	multiple : 2
	reference_rate : 48000
	use_system_timer : N

!!Module: snd_usb_audio
	async_unlink : Y
	device_setup : 0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
	devpath : <NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>
	enable : Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y
	id : <NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>
	ignore_ctl_error : N
	index : -1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1
	nrpacks : 8
	pid : -1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1
	vid : -1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1

!!Module: snd_hda_intel
	bdl_pos_adj : 32,32,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1
	enable : Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y
	enable_msi : 0
	id : <NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>
	index : -1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1
	model : <NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>
	patch : <NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>
	position_fix : 0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
	power_save : 0
	power_save_controller : Y
	probe_mask : -1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1
	probe_only : N,N,N,N,N,N,N,N
	single_cmd : N

!!Module: snd_bt87x
	digital_rate : 0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
	enable : Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y
	id : <NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>
	index : -2,-2,-2,-2,-2,-2,-2,-2
	load_all : N


!!HDA-Intel Codec information
!!---------------------------
--startcollapse--

Codec: Realtek ALC889A
Address: 3
Function Id: 0x1
Vendor Id: 0x10ec0885
Subsystem Id: 0x1458a002
Revision Id: 0x100101
No Modem Function Group found
Default PCM:
    rates [0x560]: 44100 48000 96000 192000
    bits [0xe]: 16 20 24
    formats [0x1]: PCM
Default Amp-In caps: N/A
Default Amp-Out caps: N/A
GPIO: io=2, o=0, i=0, unsolicited=1, wake=0
  IO[0]: enable=0, dir=0, wake=0, sticky=0, data=0, unsol=0
  IO[1]: enable=0, dir=0, wake=0, sticky=0, data=0, unsol=0
Node 0x02 [Audio Output] wcaps 0x11: Stereo
  Converter: stream=0, channel=0
  PCM:
    rates [0x560]: 44100 48000 96000 192000
    bits [0xe]: 16 20 24
    formats [0x1]: PCM
Node 0x03 [Audio Output] wcaps 0x11: Stereo
  Converter: stream=0, channel=0
  PCM:
    rates [0x560]: 44100 48000 96000 192000
    bits [0xe]: 16 20 24
    formats [0x1]: PCM
Node 0x04 [Audio Output] wcaps 0x11: Stereo
  Converter: stream=0, channel=0
  PCM:
    rates [0x560]: 44100 48000 96000 192000
    bits [0xe]: 16 20 24
    formats [0x1]: PCM
Node 0x05 [Audio Output] wcaps 0x11: Stereo
  Converter: stream=0, channel=0
  PCM:
    rates [0x560]: 44100 48000 96000 192000
    bits [0xe]: 16 20 24
    formats [0x1]: PCM
Node 0x06 [Audio Output] wcaps 0x211: Stereo Digital
  Converter: stream=0, channel=0
  Digital:
  Digital category: 0x0
  PCM:
    rates [0x5e0]: 44100 48000 88200 96000 192000
    bits [0x1e]: 16 20 24 32
    formats [0x1]: PCM
Node 0x07 [Audio Input] wcaps 0x10011b: Stereo Amp-In
  Amp-In caps: ofs=0x10, nsteps=0x2e, stepsize=0x03, mute=1
  Amp-In vals:  [0x1c 0x1c]
  Converter: stream=0, channel=0
  SDI-Select: 0
  PCM:
    rates [0x560]: 44100 48000 96000 192000
    bits [0xe]: 16 20 24
    formats [0x1]: PCM
  Connection: 1
     0x24
Node 0x08 [Audio Input] wcaps 0x10011b: Stereo Amp-In
  Amp-In caps: ofs=0x10, nsteps=0x2e, stepsize=0x03, mute=1
  Amp-In vals:  [0x80 0x80]
  Converter: stream=0, channel=0
  SDI-Select: 0
  PCM:
    rates [0x560]: 44100 48000 96000 192000
    bits [0xe]: 16 20 24
    formats [0x1]: PCM
  Connection: 1
     0x23
Node 0x09 [Audio Input] wcaps 0x10011b: Stereo Amp-In
  Amp-In caps: ofs=0x10, nsteps=0x2e, stepsize=0x03, mute=1
  Amp-In vals:  [0x80 0x80]
  Converter: stream=0, channel=0
  SDI-Select: 0
  PCM:
    rates [0x560]: 44100 48000 96000 192000
    bits [0xe]: 16 20 24
    formats [0x1]: PCM
  Connection: 1
     0x22
Node 0x0a [Audio Input] wcaps 0x100391: Stereo Digital
  Converter: stream=0, channel=0
  SDI-Select: 0
  Digital:
  Digital category: 0x0
  PCM:
    rates [0x560]: 44100 48000 96000 192000
    bits [0x1e]: 16 20 24 32
    formats [0x1]: PCM
  Unsolicited: tag=00, enabled=0
  Connection: 1
     0x1f
Node 0x0b [Audio Mixer] wcaps 0x20010b: Stereo Amp-In
  Amp-In caps: ofs=0x17, nsteps=0x1f, stepsize=0x05, mute=1
  Amp-In vals:  [0x80 0x80] [0x97 0x97] [0x97 0x97] [0x80 0x80] [0x17 0x17] [0x97 0x97] [0x97 0x97] [0x97 0x97] [0x97 0x97] [0x97 0x97]
  Connection: 10
     0x18 0x19 0x1a 0x1b 0x1c 0x1d 0x14 0x15 0x16 0x17
Node 0x0c [Audio Mixer] wcaps 0x20010f: Stereo Amp-In Amp-Out
  Amp-In caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x00, stepsize=0x00, mute=1
  Amp-In vals:  [0x00 0x00] [0x00 0x00]
  Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x40, nsteps=0x40, stepsize=0x03, mute=0
  Amp-Out vals:  [0x28 0x28]
  Connection: 2
     0x02 0x0b
Node 0x0d [Audio Mixer] wcaps 0x20010f: Stereo Amp-In Amp-Out
  Amp-In caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x00, stepsize=0x00, mute=1
  Amp-In vals:  [0x80 0x80] [0x80 0x80]
  Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x40, nsteps=0x40, stepsize=0x03, mute=0
  Amp-Out vals:  [0x00 0x00]
  Connection: 2
     0x03 0x0b
Node 0x0e [Audio Mixer] wcaps 0x20010f: Stereo Amp-In Amp-Out
  Amp-In caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x00, stepsize=0x00, mute=1
  Amp-In vals:  [0x80 0x80] [0x80 0x80]
  Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x40, nsteps=0x40, stepsize=0x03, mute=0
  Amp-Out vals:  [0x00 0x00]
  Connection: 2
     0x04 0x0b
Node 0x0f [Audio Mixer] wcaps 0x20010f: Stereo Amp-In Amp-Out
  Amp-In caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x00, stepsize=0x00, mute=1
  Amp-In vals:  [0x80 0x80] [0x80 0x80]
  Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x40, nsteps=0x40, stepsize=0x03, mute=0
  Amp-Out vals:  [0x00 0x00]
  Connection: 2
     0x05 0x0b
Node 0x10 [Vendor Defined Widget] wcaps 0xf00000: Mono
Node 0x11 [Vendor Defined Widget] wcaps 0xf00000: Mono
Node 0x12 [Vendor Defined Widget] wcaps 0xf00000: Mono
Node 0x13 [Vendor Defined Widget] wcaps 0xf00000: Mono
Node 0x14 [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x40018f: Stereo Amp-In Amp-Out
  Amp-In caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x03, stepsize=0x27, mute=0
  Amp-In vals:  [0x00 0x00]
  Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x00, stepsize=0x00, mute=1
  Amp-Out vals:  [0x00 0x00]
  Pincap 0x0000373c: IN OUT HP Detect
    Vref caps: HIZ 50 GRD 80 100
  Pin Default 0x01014410: [Jack] Line-Out at Ext Rear
    Conn = 1/8, Color = Green
    DefAssociation = 0x1, Sequence = 0x0
  Pin-ctls: 0x40: OUT VREF_HIZ
  Unsolicited: tag=00, enabled=0
  Connection: 5
     0x0c* 0x0d 0x0e 0x0f 0x26
Node 0x15 [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x40018f: Stereo Amp-In Amp-Out
  Amp-In caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x03, stepsize=0x27, mute=0
  Amp-In vals:  [0x00 0x00]
  Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x00, stepsize=0x00, mute=1
  Amp-Out vals:  [0x00 0x00]
  Pincap 0x0000373c: IN OUT HP Detect
    Vref caps: HIZ 50 GRD 80 100
  Pin Default 0x01011412: [Jack] Line-Out at Ext Rear
    Conn = 1/8, Color = Black
    DefAssociation = 0x1, Sequence = 0x2
  Pin-ctls: 0x40: OUT VREF_HIZ
  Unsolicited: tag=00, enabled=0
  Connection: 5
     0x0c 0x0d* 0x0e 0x0f 0x26
Node 0x16 [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x40018f: Stereo Amp-In Amp-Out
  Amp-In caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x03, stepsize=0x27, mute=0
  Amp-In vals:  [0x00 0x00]
  Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x00, stepsize=0x00, mute=1
  Amp-Out vals:  [0x00 0x00]
  Pincap 0x0000003c: IN OUT HP Detect
  Pin Default 0x01016411: [Jack] Line-Out at Ext Rear
    Conn = 1/8, Color = Orange
    DefAssociation = 0x1, Sequence = 0x1
  Pin-ctls: 0x40: OUT
  Unsolicited: tag=00, enabled=0
  Connection: 5
     0x0c 0x0d 0x0e* 0x0f 0x26
Node 0x17 [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x40018f: Stereo Amp-In Amp-Out
  Amp-In caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x03, stepsize=0x27, mute=0
  Amp-In vals:  [0x00 0x00]
  Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x00, stepsize=0x00, mute=1
  Amp-Out vals:  [0x00 0x00]
  Pincap 0x0000003c: IN OUT HP Detect
  Pin Default 0x01012414: [Jack] Line-Out at Ext Rear
    Conn = 1/8, Color = Grey
    DefAssociation = 0x1, Sequence = 0x4
  Pin-ctls: 0x40: OUT
  Unsolicited: tag=00, enabled=0
  Connection: 5
     0x0c 0x0d 0x0e 0x0f* 0x26
Node 0x18 [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x40018f: Stereo Amp-In Amp-Out
  Amp-In caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x03, stepsize=0x27, mute=0
  Amp-In vals:  [0x00 0x00]
  Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x00, stepsize=0x00, mute=1
  Amp-Out vals:  [0x80 0x80]
  Pincap 0x0000373c: IN OUT HP Detect
    Vref caps: HIZ 50 GRD 80 100
  Pin Default 0x01a19c40: [Jack] Mic at Ext Rear
    Conn = 1/8, Color = Pink
    DefAssociation = 0x4, Sequence = 0x0
  Pin-ctls: 0x24: IN VREF_80
  Unsolicited: tag=00, enabled=0
  Connection: 5
     0x0c* 0x0d 0x0e 0x0f 0x26
Node 0x19 [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x40018f: Stereo Amp-In Amp-Out
  Amp-In caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x03, stepsize=0x27, mute=0
  Amp-In vals:  [0x00 0x00]
  Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x00, stepsize=0x00, mute=1
  Amp-Out vals:  [0x80 0x80]
  Pincap 0x0000373c: IN OUT HP Detect
    Vref caps: HIZ 50 GRD 80 100
  Pin Default 0x02a19c50: [Jack] Mic at Ext Front
    Conn = 1/8, Color = Pink
    DefAssociation = 0x5, Sequence = 0x0
  Pin-ctls: 0x24: IN VREF_80
  Unsolicited: tag=00, enabled=0
  Connection: 5
     0x0c* 0x0d 0x0e 0x0f 0x26
Node 0x1a [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x40018f: Stereo Amp-In Amp-Out
  Amp-In caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x03, stepsize=0x27, mute=0
  Amp-In vals:  [0x00 0x00]
  Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x00, stepsize=0x00, mute=1
  Amp-Out vals:  [0x80 0x80]
  Pincap 0x0000373c: IN OUT HP Detect
    Vref caps: HIZ 50 GRD 80 100
  Pin Default 0x0181344f: [Jack] Line-In at Ext Rear
    Conn = 1/8, Color = Blue
    DefAssociation = 0x4, Sequence = 0xf
  Pin-ctls: 0x20: IN VREF_HIZ
  Unsolicited: tag=00, enabled=0
  Connection: 5
     0x0c* 0x0d 0x0e 0x0f 0x26
Node 0x1b [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x40018f: Stereo Amp-In Amp-Out
  Amp-In caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x03, stepsize=0x27, mute=0
  Amp-In vals:  [0x00 0x00]
  Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x00, stepsize=0x00, mute=1
  Amp-Out vals:  [0x00 0x00]
  Pincap 0x0000373c: IN OUT HP Detect
    Vref caps: HIZ 50 GRD 80 100
  Pin Default 0x02214c20: [Jack] Headphone at Ext Front
    Conn = 1/8, Color = Green
    DefAssociation = 0x2, Sequence = 0x0
  Pin-ctls: 0xc0: OUT HP VREF_HIZ
  Unsolicited: tag=00, enabled=0
  Connection: 5
     0x0c* 0x0d 0x0e 0x0f 0x26
Node 0x1c [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x400001: Stereo
  Pincap 0x00000020: IN
  Pin Default 0x593301f0: [N/A] CD at Int ATAPI
    Conn = ATAPI, Color = Unknown
    DefAssociation = 0xf, Sequence = 0x0
    Misc = NO_PRESENCE
  Pin-ctls: 0x20: IN
Node 0x1d [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x400000: Mono
  Pincap 0x00000020: IN
  Pin Default 0x4005e601: [N/A] Line-Out at Ext N/A
    Conn = Optical, Color = White
    DefAssociation = 0x0, Sequence = 0x1
  Pin-ctls: 0x20: IN
Node 0x1e [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x400300: Mono Digital
  Pincap 0x00000010: OUT
  Pin Default 0x014b6130: [Jack] SPDIF-Out at Ext Rear
    Conn = Comb, Color = Orange
    DefAssociation = 0x3, Sequence = 0x0
    Misc = NO_PRESENCE
  Pin-ctls: 0x40: OUT
  Connection: 1
     0x06
Node 0x1f [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x400200: Mono Digital
  Pincap 0x00000020: IN
  Pin Default 0x01cb7160: [Jack] SPDIF-In at Ext Rear
    Conn = Comb, Color = Yellow
    DefAssociation = 0x6, Sequence = 0x0
    Misc = NO_PRESENCE
  Pin-ctls: 0x20: IN
Node 0x20 [Vendor Defined Widget] wcaps 0xf00040: Mono
  Processing caps: benign=0, ncoeff=17
  Processing Coefficient: 0x86a0
  Coefficient Index: 0x03
Node 0x21 [Volume Knob Widget] wcaps 0x600080: Mono
  Volume-Knob: delta=0, steps=32, direct=0, val=0
  Unsolicited: tag=00, enabled=0
  Connection: 0
Node 0x22 [Audio Mixer] wcaps 0x20010b: Stereo Amp-In
  Amp-In caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x00, stepsize=0x00, mute=1
  Amp-In vals:  [0x00 0x00] [0x80 0x80] [0x80 0x80] [0x80 0x80] [0x80 0x80] [0x80 0x80] [0x80 0x80] [0x80 0x80] [0x80 0x80] [0x80 0x80] [0x80 0x80]
  Connection: 11
     0x18 0x19 0x1a 0x1b 0x1c 0x1d 0x14 0x15 0x16 0x17 0x0b
Node 0x23 [Audio Mixer] wcaps 0x20010b: Stereo Amp-In
  Amp-In caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x00, stepsize=0x00, mute=1
  Amp-In vals:  [0x00 0x00] [0x80 0x80] [0x80 0x80] [0x80 0x80] [0x80 0x80] [0x80 0x80] [0x80 0x80] [0x80 0x80] [0x80 0x80] [0x80 0x80] [0x80 0x80]
  Connection: 11
     0x18 0x19 0x1a 0x1b 0x1c 0x1d 0x14 0x15 0x16 0x17 0x0b
Node 0x24 [Audio Mixer] wcaps 0x20010b: Stereo Amp-In
  Amp-In caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x00, stepsize=0x00, mute=1
  Amp-In vals:  [0x00 0x00] [0x80 0x80] [0x80 0x80] [0x80 0x80] [0x80 0x80] [0x80 0x80] [0x80 0x80] [0x80 0x80] [0x80 0x80] [0x80 0x80] [0x80 0x80]
  Connection: 11
     0x18 0x19 0x1a 0x1b 0x1c 0x1d 0x14 0x15 0x16 0x17 0x0b
Node 0x25 [Audio Output] wcaps 0x11: Stereo
  Converter: stream=0, channel=0
  PCM:
    rates [0x560]: 44100 48000 96000 192000
    bits [0xe]: 16 20 24
    formats [0x1]: PCM
Node 0x26 [Audio Mixer] wcaps 0x20010f: Stereo Amp-In Amp-Out
  Amp-In caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x00, stepsize=0x00, mute=1
  Amp-In vals:  [0x00 0x00] [0x80 0x80]
  Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x40, nsteps=0x40, stepsize=0x03, mute=0
  Amp-Out vals:  [0x40 0x40]
  Connection: 2
     0x25 0x0b
Codec: ATI R6xx HDMI
Address: 0
Function Id: 0x1
Vendor Id: 0x1002aa01
Subsystem Id: 0x00aa0100
Revision Id: 0x100100
No Modem Function Group found
Default PCM:
    rates [0x70]: 32000 44100 48000
    bits [0x2]: 16
    formats [0x1]: PCM
Default Amp-In caps: N/A
Default Amp-Out caps: N/A
GPIO: io=0, o=0, i=0, unsolicited=0, wake=0
Node 0x02 [Audio Output] wcaps 0x201: Stereo Digital
  Converter: stream=0, channel=0
  Digital:
  Digital category: 0x0
Node 0x03 [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x400381: Stereo Digital
  Pincap 0x00000094: OUT Detect HDMI
  Pin Default 0x18560010: [Jack] Digital-Out at Int HDMI
    Conn = Digital, Color = Unknown
    DefAssociation = 0x1, Sequence = 0x0
  Pin-ctls: 0x40: OUT
  Unsolicited: tag=00, enabled=0
  Connection: 1
     0x02
--endcollapse--


!!ALSA Device nodes
!!-----------------

crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116,   0 Jul 16 12:00 /dev/snd/controlC0
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116,  32 Jul 16 12:00 /dev/snd/controlC1
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116,  64 Jul 16 12:00 /dev/snd/controlC2
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116,  96 Jul 16 12:00 /dev/snd/controlC3
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116, 128 Jul 16 12:00 /dev/snd/controlC4
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116,   7 Jul 16 12:00 /dev/snd/hwC0D3
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116, 100 Jul 16 12:00 /dev/snd/hwC3D0
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116,  24 Jul 16 12:00 /dev/snd/pcmC0D0c
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116,  16 Jul 16 12:00 /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116,  25 Jul 16 12:00 /dev/snd/pcmC0D1c
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116,  17 Jul 16 12:00 /dev/snd/pcmC0D1p
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116,  26 Jul 16 12:00 /dev/snd/pcmC0D2c
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116,  56 Jul 16 12:00 /dev/snd/pcmC1D0c
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116,  48 Jul 16 12:00 /dev/snd/pcmC1D0p
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116,  49 Jul 16 12:00 /dev/snd/pcmC1D1p
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116,  50 Jul 16 12:00 /dev/snd/pcmC1D2p
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116,  51 Jul 16 12:00 /dev/snd/pcmC1D3p
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116,  52 Jul 16 12:00 /dev/snd/pcmC1D4p
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116,  88 Jul 16 12:00 /dev/snd/pcmC2D0c
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116, 115 Jul 16 12:00 /dev/snd/pcmC3D3p
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116, 152 Jul 16 12:00 /dev/snd/pcmC4D0c
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116, 153 Jul 16 12:00 /dev/snd/pcmC4D1c
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116,   1 Jul 16 12:00 /dev/snd/seq
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116,  33 Jul 16 12:00 /dev/snd/timer


!!Aplay/Arecord output
!!------------

APLAY

**** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
card 0: SB [HDA ATI SB], device 0: ALC889A Analog [ALC889A Analog]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: SB [HDA ATI SB], device 1: ALC889A Digital [ALC889A Digital]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 1: XFi [Creative X-Fi], device 0: ctxfi [Front/WaveIn]
  Subdevices: 8/8
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
  Subdevice #1: subdevice #1
  Subdevice #2: subdevice #2
  Subdevice #3: subdevice #3
  Subdevice #4: subdevice #4
  Subdevice #5: subdevice #5
  Subdevice #6: subdevice #6
  Subdevice #7: subdevice #7
card 1: XFi [Creative X-Fi], device 1: ctxfi [Surround]
  Subdevices: 8/8
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
  Subdevice #1: subdevice #1
  Subdevice #2: subdevice #2
  Subdevice #3: subdevice #3
  Subdevice #4: subdevice #4
  Subdevice #5: subdevice #5
  Subdevice #6: subdevice #6
  Subdevice #7: subdevice #7
card 1: XFi [Creative X-Fi], device 2: ctxfi [Center/LFE]
  Subdevices: 8/8
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
  Subdevice #1: subdevice #1
  Subdevice #2: subdevice #2
  Subdevice #3: subdevice #3
  Subdevice #4: subdevice #4
  Subdevice #5: subdevice #5
  Subdevice #6: subdevice #6
  Subdevice #7: subdevice #7
card 1: XFi [Creative X-Fi], device 3: ctxfi [Side]
  Subdevices: 8/8
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
  Subdevice #1: subdevice #1
  Subdevice #2: subdevice #2
  Subdevice #3: subdevice #3
  Subdevice #4: subdevice #4
  Subdevice #5: subdevice #5
  Subdevice #6: subdevice #6
  Subdevice #7: subdevice #7
card 1: XFi [Creative X-Fi], device 4: ctxfi [IEC958 Non-audio]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 3: HDMI [HDA ATI HDMI], device 3: ATI HDMI [ATI HDMI]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0

ARECORD

**** List of CAPTURE Hardware Devices ****
card 0: SB [HDA ATI SB], device 0: ALC889A Analog [ALC889A Analog]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: SB [HDA ATI SB], device 1: ALC889A Digital [ALC889A Digital]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: SB [HDA ATI SB], device 2: ALC889A Analog [ALC889A Analog]
  Subdevices: 2/2
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
  Subdevice #1: subdevice #1
card 1: XFi [Creative X-Fi], device 0: ctxfi [Front/WaveIn]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 2: U0x46d0x9a1 [USB Device 0x46d:0x9a1], device 0: USB Audio [USB Audio]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 4: Bt878 [Brooktree Bt878], device 0: Bt87x Digital [Bt87x Digital]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 4: Bt878 [Brooktree Bt878], device 1: Bt87x Analog [Bt87x Analog]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0

!!Amixer output
!!-------------

!!-------Mixer controls for card 0 [SB]

Card hw:0 'SB'/'HDA ATI SB at 0xfe024000 irq 16'
  Mixer name	: 'Realtek ALC889A'
  Components	: 'HDA:10ec0885,1458a002,00100101'
  Controls      : 43
  Simple ctrls  : 24
Simple mixer control 'Master',0
  Capabilities: pvolume pvolume-joined pswitch pswitch-joined
  Playback channels: Mono
  Limits: Playback 0 - 64
  Mono: Playback 52 [81%] [-12.00dB] [on]
Simple mixer control 'Headphone',0
  Capabilities: pswitch
  Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Mono:
  Front Left: Playback [on]
  Front Right: Playback [on]
Simple mixer control 'PCM',0
  Capabilities: pvolume
  Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Limits: Playback 0 - 255
  Mono:
  Front Left: Playback 255 [100%] [0.00dB]
  Front Right: Playback 255 [100%] [0.00dB]
Simple mixer control 'Front',0
  Capabilities: pvolume pswitch
  Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Limits: Playback 0 - 64
  Mono:
  Front Left: Playback 52 [81%] [-12.00dB] [on]
  Front Right: Playback 52 [81%] [-12.00dB] [on]
Simple mixer control 'Front Mic',0
  Capabilities: pvolume pswitch
  Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Limits: Playback 0 - 31
  Mono:
  Front Left: Playback 23 [74%] [0.00dB] [off]
  Front Right: Playback 23 [74%] [0.00dB] [off]
Simple mixer control 'Front Mic Boost',0
  Capabilities: volume
  Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Limits: 0 - 3
  Front Left: 0 [0%]
  Front Right: 0 [0%]
Simple mixer control 'Surround',0
  Capabilities: pvolume pswitch
  Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Limits: Playback 0 - 64
  Mono:
  Front Left: Playback 0 [0%] [-64.00dB] [off]
  Front Right: Playback 0 [0%] [-64.00dB] [off]
Simple mixer control 'Center',0
  Capabilities: pvolume pvolume-joined pswitch pswitch-joined
  Playback channels: Mono
  Limits: Playback 0 - 64
  Mono: Playback 0 [0%] [-64.00dB] [off]
Simple mixer control 'LFE',0
  Capabilities: pvolume pvolume-joined pswitch pswitch-joined
  Playback channels: Mono
  Limits: Playback 0 - 64
  Mono: Playback 0 [0%] [-64.00dB] [off]
Simple mixer control 'Side',0
  Capabilities: pvolume pswitch
  Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Limits: Playback 0 - 64
  Mono:
  Front Left: Playback 0 [0%] [-64.00dB] [off]
  Front Right: Playback 0 [0%] [-64.00dB] [off]
Simple mixer control 'Line',0
  Capabilities: pvolume pswitch
  Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Limits: Playback 0 - 31
  Mono:
  Front Left: Playback 23 [74%] [0.00dB] [off]
  Front Right: Playback 23 [74%] [0.00dB] [off]
Simple mixer control 'CD',0
  Capabilities: pvolume pswitch
  Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Limits: Playback 0 - 31
  Mono:
  Front Left: Playback 23 [74%] [0.00dB] [on]
  Front Right: Playback 23 [74%] [0.00dB] [on]
Simple mixer control 'Mic',0
  Capabilities: pvolume pswitch
  Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Limits: Playback 0 - 31
  Mono:
  Front Left: Playback 0 [0%] [-34.50dB] [off]
  Front Right: Playback 0 [0%] [-34.50dB] [off]
Simple mixer control 'Mic Boost',0
  Capabilities: volume
  Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Limits: 0 - 3
  Front Left: 0 [0%]
  Front Right: 0 [0%]
Simple mixer control 'IEC958',0
  Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined cswitch cswitch-joined
  Playback channels: Mono
  Capture channels: Mono
  Mono: Playback [off] Capture [off]
Simple mixer control 'IEC958 Default PCM',0
  Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined
  Playback channels: Mono
  Mono: Playback [on]
Simple mixer control 'Capture',0
  Capabilities: cvolume cswitch
  Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Limits: Capture 0 - 46
  Front Left: Capture 28 [61%] [12.00dB] [on]
  Front Right: Capture 28 [61%] [12.00dB] [on]
Simple mixer control 'Capture',1
  Capabilities: cvolume cswitch
  Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Limits: Capture 0 - 46
  Front Left: Capture 0 [0%] [-16.00dB] [off]
  Front Right: Capture 0 [0%] [-16.00dB] [off]
Simple mixer control 'Capture',2
  Capabilities: cvolume cswitch
  Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Limits: Capture 0 - 46
  Front Left: Capture 0 [0%] [-16.00dB] [off]
  Front Right: Capture 0 [0%] [-16.00dB] [off]
Simple mixer control 'Beep',0
  Capabilities: pvolume pswitch
  Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Limits: Playback 0 - 31
  Mono:
  Front Left: Playback 23 [74%] [0.00dB] [off]
  Front Right: Playback 23 [74%] [0.00dB] [off]
Simple mixer control 'Channel Mode',0
  Capabilities: enum
  Items: '6ch' '8ch'
  Item0: '6ch'
Simple mixer control 'Input Source',0
  Capabilities: cenum
  Items: 'Mic' 'Front Mic' 'Line' 'CD'
  Item0: 'Mic'
Simple mixer control 'Input Source',1
  Capabilities: cenum
  Items: 'Mic' 'Front Mic' 'Line' 'CD'
  Item0: 'Mic'
Simple mixer control 'Input Source',2
  Capabilities: cenum
  Items: 'Mic' 'Front Mic' 'Line' 'CD'
  Item0: 'Mic'

!!-------Mixer controls for card 1 [XFi]

Card hw:1 'XFi'/'Creative X-Fi 20K2 SB0880'
  Mixer name	: '20K2'
  Components	: ''
  Controls      : 29
  Simple ctrls  : 10
Simple mixer control 'Master',0
  Capabilities: pvolume cvolume
  Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Limits: Playback 0 - 256 Capture 0 - 256
  Front Left: Playback 173 [68%] [-20.75dB] Capture 256 [100%] [0.00dB]
  Front Right: Playback 173 [68%] [-20.75dB] Capture 256 [100%] [0.00dB]
Simple mixer control 'PCM',0
  Capabilities: pvolume cvolume cswitch cswitch-joined
  Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Limits: Playback 0 - 256 Capture 0 - 256
  Front Left: Playback 256 [100%] [0.00dB] Capture 256 [100%] [0.00dB] [on]
  Front Right: Playback 256 [100%] [0.00dB] Capture 256 [100%] [0.00dB] [on]
Simple mixer control 'Front',0
  Capabilities: pvolume pswitch pswitch-joined
  Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Limits: Playback 0 - 256
  Mono:
  Front Left: Playback 256 [100%] [0.00dB] [on]
  Front Right: Playback 256 [100%] [0.00dB] [on]
Simple mixer control 'Surround',0
  Capabilities: pvolume pswitch pswitch-joined
  Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Limits: Playback 0 - 256
  Mono:
  Front Left: Playback 256 [100%] [0.00dB] [on]
  Front Right: Playback 256 [100%] [0.00dB] [on]
Simple mixer control 'Center/LFE',0
  Capabilities: pvolume pswitch pswitch-joined
  Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Limits: Playback 0 - 256
  Mono:
  Front Left: Playback 256 [100%] [0.00dB] [on]
  Front Right: Playback 256 [100%] [0.00dB] [on]
Simple mixer control 'Side',0
  Capabilities: pvolume pswitch pswitch-joined
  Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Limits: Playback 0 - 256
  Mono:
  Front Left: Playback 256 [100%] [0.00dB] [on]
  Front Right: Playback 256 [100%] [0.00dB] [on]
Simple mixer control 'Line-in',0
  Capabilities: pvolume cvolume pswitch pswitch-joined cswitch cswitch-joined
  Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Limits: Playback 0 - 256 Capture 0 - 256
  Front Left: Playback 256 [100%] [0.00dB] [on] Capture 256 [100%] [0.00dB] [on]
  Front Right: Playback 256 [100%] [0.00dB] [on] Capture 256 [100%] [0.00dB] [on]
Simple mixer control 'Mic',0
  Capabilities: pvolume cvolume cswitch cswitch-joined
  Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Limits: Playback 0 - 256 Capture 0 - 256
  Front Left: Playback 256 [100%] [0.00dB] Capture 256 [100%] [0.00dB] [off]
  Front Right: Playback 256 [100%] [0.00dB] Capture 256 [100%] [0.00dB] [off]
Simple mixer control 'S/PDIF-in',0
  Capabilities: pvolume cvolume pswitch pswitch-joined cswitch cswitch-joined
  Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Limits: Playback 0 - 256 Capture 0 - 256
  Front Left: Playback 256 [100%] [0.00dB] [off] Capture 256 [100%] [0.00dB] [on]
  Front Right: Playback 256 [100%] [0.00dB] [off] Capture 256 [100%] [0.00dB] [on]
Simple mixer control 'S/PDIF-out',0
  Capabilities: pvolume pswitch pswitch-joined
  Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Limits: Playback 0 - 256
  Mono:
  Front Left: Playback 256 [100%] [0.00dB] [off]
  Front Right: Playback 256 [100%] [0.00dB] [off]

!!-------Mixer controls for card 2 [U0x46d0x9a1]

Card hw:2 'U0x46d0x9a1'/'USB Device 0x46d:0x9a1 at usb-0000:00:13.5-3, high speed'
  Mixer name	: 'USB Mixer'
  Components	: 'USB046d:09a1'
  Controls      : 2
  Simple ctrls  : 1
Simple mixer control 'Mic',0
  Capabilities: cvolume cvolume-joined cswitch cswitch-joined
  Capture channels: Mono
  Limits: Capture 0 - 3072
  Mono: Capture 1536 [50%] [on]

!!-------Mixer controls for card 3 [HDMI]

Card hw:3 'HDMI'/'HDA ATI HDMI at 0xfdffc000 irq 19'
  Mixer name	: 'ATI R6xx HDMI'
  Components	: 'HDA:1002aa01,00aa0100,00100100'
  Controls      : 4
  Simple ctrls  : 1
Simple mixer control 'IEC958',0
  Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined
  Playback channels: Mono
  Mono: Playback [off]

!!-------Mixer controls for card 4 [Bt878]

Card hw:4 'Bt878'/'Brooktree Bt878 at 0xfdafe000, irq 20'
  Mixer name	: 'Bt87x'
  Components	: ''
  Controls      : 3
  Simple ctrls  : 5
Simple mixer control 'FM',0
  Capabilities: cswitch cswitch-joined cswitch-exclusive
  Capture exclusive group: 0
  Capture channels: Mono
  Mono: Capture [off]
Simple mixer control 'Mic/Line',0
  Capabilities: cswitch cswitch-joined cswitch-exclusive
  Capture exclusive group: 0
  Capture channels: Mono
  Mono: Capture [off]
Simple mixer control 'Capture',0
  Capabilities: cvolume cvolume-joined
  Capture channels: Mono
  Limits: Capture 0 - 15
  Mono: Capture 12 [80%]
Simple mixer control 'Capture Boost',0
  Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined
  Playback channels: Mono
  Mono: Playback [off]
Simple mixer control 'TV Tuner',0
  Capabilities: cswitch cswitch-joined cswitch-exclusive
  Capture exclusive group: 0
  Capture channels: Mono
  Mono: Capture [on]


!!Alsactl output
!!-------------

--startcollapse--
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		comment.dbmax 0
		iface MIXER
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		iface MIXER
		name 'Front Playback Switch'
		value.0 true
		value.1 true
	}
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		comment.access 'read write'
		comment.type INTEGER
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		comment.dbmax 0
		iface MIXER
		name 'Surround Playback Volume'
		value.0 0
		value.1 0
	}
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		comment.access 'read write'
		comment.type BOOLEAN
		comment.count 2
		iface MIXER
		name 'Surround Playback Switch'
		value.0 false
		value.1 false
	}
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		comment.access 'read write'
		comment.type INTEGER
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		comment.range '0 - 64'
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		comment.dbmax 0
		iface MIXER
		name 'Center Playback Volume'
		value 0
	}
	control.6 {
		comment.access 'read write'
		comment.type INTEGER
		comment.count 1
		comment.range '0 - 64'
		comment.dbmin -6400
		comment.dbmax 0
		iface MIXER
		name 'LFE Playback Volume'
		value 0
	}
	control.7 {
		comment.access 'read write'
		comment.type BOOLEAN
		comment.count 1
		iface MIXER
		name 'Center Playback Switch'
		value false
	}
	control.8 {
		comment.access 'read write'
		comment.type BOOLEAN
		comment.count 1
		iface MIXER
		name 'LFE Playback Switch'
		value false
	}
	control.9 {
		comment.access 'read write'
		comment.type INTEGER
		comment.count 2
		comment.range '0 - 64'
		comment.dbmin -6400
		comment.dbmax 0
		iface MIXER
		name 'Side Playback Volume'
		value.0 0
		value.1 0
	}
	control.10 {
		comment.access 'read write'
		comment.type BOOLEAN
		comment.count 2
		iface MIXER
		name 'Side Playback Switch'
		value.0 false
		value.1 false
	}
	control.11 {
		comment.access 'read write'
		comment.type BOOLEAN
		comment.count 2
		iface MIXER
		name 'Headphone Playback Switch'
		value.0 true
		value.1 true
	}
	control.12 {
		comment.access 'read write'
		comment.type INTEGER
		comment.count 2
		comment.range '0 - 31'
		comment.dbmin -3450
		comment.dbmax 1200
		iface MIXER
		name 'CD Playback Volume'
		value.0 23
		value.1 23
	}
	control.13 {
		comment.access 'read write'
		comment.type BOOLEAN
		comment.count 2
		iface MIXER
		name 'CD Playback Switch'
		value.0 true
		value.1 true
	}
	control.14 {
		comment.access 'read write'
		comment.type INTEGER
		comment.count 2
		comment.range '0 - 31'
		comment.dbmin -3450
		comment.dbmax 1200
		iface MIXER
		name 'Line Playback Volume'
		value.0 23
		value.1 23
	}
	control.15 {
		comment.access 'read write'
		comment.type BOOLEAN
		comment.count 2
		iface MIXER
		name 'Line Playback Switch'
		value.0 false
		value.1 false
	}
	control.16 {
		comment.access 'read write'
		comment.type INTEGER
		comment.count 2
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		comment.dbmax 1200
		iface MIXER
		name 'Mic Playback Volume'
		value.0 0
		value.1 0
	}
	control.17 {
		comment.access 'read write'
		comment.type INTEGER
		comment.count 2
		comment.range '0 - 3'
		comment.dbmin 0
		comment.dbmax 3000
		iface MIXER
		name 'Mic Boost'
		value.0 0
		value.1 0
	}
	control.18 {
		comment.access 'read write'
		comment.type BOOLEAN
		comment.count 2
		iface MIXER
		name 'Mic Playback Switch'
		value.0 false
		value.1 false
	}
	control.19 {
		comment.access 'read write'
		comment.type INTEGER
		comment.count 2
		comment.range '0 - 31'
		comment.dbmin -3450
		comment.dbmax 1200
		iface MIXER
		name 'Front Mic Playback Volume'
		value.0 23
		value.1 23
	}
	control.20 {
		comment.access 'read write'
		comment.type INTEGER
		comment.count 2
		comment.range '0 - 3'
		comment.dbmin 0
		comment.dbmax 3000
		iface MIXER
		name 'Front Mic Boost'
		value.0 0
		value.1 0
	}
	control.21 {
		comment.access 'read write'
		comment.type BOOLEAN
		comment.count 2
		iface MIXER
		name 'Front Mic Playback Switch'
		value.0 false
		value.1 false
	}
	control.22 {
		comment.access 'read write'
		comment.type ENUMERATED
		comment.count 1
		comment.item.0 '6ch'
		comment.item.1 '8ch'
		iface MIXER
		name 'Channel Mode'
		value '6ch'
	}
	control.23 {
		comment.access 'read write'
		comment.type BOOLEAN
		comment.count 2
		iface MIXER
		name 'Capture Switch'
		value.0 true
		value.1 true
	}
	control.24 {
		comment.access 'read write'
		comment.type BOOLEAN
		comment.count 2
		iface MIXER
		name 'Capture Switch'
		index 1
		value.0 false
		value.1 false
	}
	control.25 {
		comment.access 'read write'
		comment.type BOOLEAN
		comment.count 2
		iface MIXER
		name 'Capture Switch'
		index 2
		value.0 false
		value.1 false
	}
	control.26 {
		comment.access 'read write'
		comment.type INTEGER
		comment.count 2
		comment.range '0 - 46'
		comment.dbmin -1600
		comment.dbmax 3000
		iface MIXER
		name 'Capture Volume'
		value.0 28
		value.1 28
	}
	control.27 {
		comment.access 'read write'
		comment.type INTEGER
		comment.count 2
		comment.range '0 - 46'
		comment.dbmin -1600
		comment.dbmax 3000
		iface MIXER
		name 'Capture Volume'
		index 1
		value.0 0
		value.1 0
	}
	control.28 {
		comment.access 'read write'
		comment.type INTEGER
		comment.count 2
		comment.range '0 - 46'
		comment.dbmin -1600
		comment.dbmax 3000
		iface MIXER
		name 'Capture Volume'
		index 2
		value.0 0
		value.1 0
	}
	control.29 {
		comment.access 'read write'
		comment.type ENUMERATED
		comment.count 1
		comment.item.0 Mic
		comment.item.1 'Front Mic'
		comment.item.2 Line
		comment.item.3 CD
		iface MIXER
		name 'Input Source'
		value Mic
	}
	control.30 {
		comment.access 'read write'
		comment.type ENUMERATED
		comment.count 1
		comment.item.0 Mic
		comment.item.1 'Front Mic'
		comment.item.2 Line
		comment.item.3 CD
		iface MIXER
		name 'Input Source'
		index 1
		value Mic
	}
	control.31 {
		comment.access 'read write'
		comment.type ENUMERATED
		comment.count 1
		comment.item.0 Mic
		comment.item.1 'Front Mic'
		comment.item.2 Line
		comment.item.3 CD
		iface MIXER
		name 'Input Source'
		index 2
		value Mic
	}
	control.32 {
		comment.access read
		comment.type IEC958
		comment.count 1
		iface MIXER
		name 'IEC958 Playback Con Mask'
		value '0fff000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000'
	}
	control.33 {
		comment.access read
		comment.type IEC958
		comment.count 1
		iface MIXER
		name 'IEC958 Playback Pro Mask'
		value '0f00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000'
	}
	control.34 {
		comment.access 'read write'
		comment.type IEC958
		comment.count 1
		iface MIXER
		name 'IEC958 Playback Default'
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	}
	control.35 {
		comment.access 'read write'
		comment.type BOOLEAN
		comment.count 1
		iface MIXER
		name 'IEC958 Playback Switch'
		value false
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		comment.access 'read write'
		comment.type BOOLEAN
		comment.count 1
		iface MIXER
		name 'IEC958 Default PCM Playback Switch'
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	control.37 {
		comment.access 'read write'
		comment.type BOOLEAN
		comment.count 1
		iface MIXER
		name 'IEC958 Capture Switch'
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		comment.access read
		comment.type IEC958
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		name 'IEC958 Capture Default'
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		comment.access 'read write'
		comment.type INTEGER
		comment.count 2
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		comment.dbmin -3450
		comment.dbmax 1200
		iface MIXER
		name 'Beep Playback Volume'
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		value.1 23
	}
	control.40 {
		comment.access 'read write'
		comment.type BOOLEAN
		comment.count 2
		iface MIXER
		name 'Beep Playback Switch'
		value.0 false
		value.1 false
	}
	control.41 {
		comment.access 'read write'
		comment.type INTEGER
		comment.count 1
		comment.range '0 - 64'
		comment.dbmin -6400
		comment.dbmax 0
		iface MIXER
		name 'Master Playback Volume'
		value 52
	}
	control.42 {
		comment.access 'read write'
		comment.type BOOLEAN
		comment.count 1
		iface MIXER
		name 'Master Playback Switch'
		value true
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		comment.access 'read write user'
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		comment.count 2
		comment.range '0 - 255'
		comment.tlv '0000000100000008ffffec1400000014'
		comment.dbmin -5100
		comment.dbmax 0
		iface MIXER
		name 'PCM Playback Volume'
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		value.1 255
	}
}
state.XFi {
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		comment.type INTEGER
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		comment.dbmin -6400
		comment.dbmax 0
		iface MIXER
		name 'Master Playback Volume'
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		value.1 173
	}
	control.2 {
		comment.access 'read write'
		comment.type INTEGER
		comment.count 2
		comment.range '0 - 256'
		comment.dbmin -6400
		comment.dbmax 0
		iface MIXER
		name 'PCM Playback Volume'
		value.0 256
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	}
	control.3 {
		comment.access 'read write'
		comment.type INTEGER
		comment.count 2
		comment.range '0 - 256'
		comment.dbmin -6400
		comment.dbmax 0
		iface MIXER
		name 'Line-in Playback Volume'
		value.0 256
		value.1 256
	}
	control.4 {
		comment.access 'read write'
		comment.type INTEGER
		comment.count 2
		comment.range '0 - 256'
		comment.dbmin -6400
		comment.dbmax 0
		iface MIXER
		name 'Mic Playback Volume'
		value.0 256
		value.1 256
	}
	control.5 {
		comment.access 'read write'
		comment.type INTEGER
		comment.count 2
		comment.range '0 - 256'
		comment.dbmin -6400
		comment.dbmax 0
		iface MIXER
		name 'S/PDIF-in Playback Volume'
		value.0 256
		value.1 256
	}
	control.6 {
		comment.access 'read write'
		comment.type INTEGER
		comment.count 2
		comment.range '0 - 256'
		comment.dbmin -6400
		comment.dbmax 0
		iface MIXER
		name 'S/PDIF-out Playback Volume'
		value.0 256
		value.1 256
	}
	control.7 {
		comment.access 'read write'
		comment.type INTEGER
		comment.count 2
		comment.range '0 - 256'
		comment.dbmin -6400
		comment.dbmax 0
		iface MIXER
		name 'Front Playback Volume'
		value.0 256
		value.1 256
	}
	control.8 {
		comment.access 'read write'
		comment.type INTEGER
		comment.count 2
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		comment.dbmin -6400
		comment.dbmax 0
		iface MIXER
		name 'Surround Playback Volume'
		value.0 256
		value.1 256
	}
	control.9 {
		comment.access 'read write'
		comment.type INTEGER
		comment.count 2
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		comment.dbmin -6400
		comment.dbmax 0
		iface MIXER
		name 'Center/LFE Playback Volume'
		value.0 256
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	}
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		comment.access 'read write'
		comment.type INTEGER
		comment.count 2
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		comment.dbmin -6400
		comment.dbmax 0
		iface MIXER
		name 'Side Playback Volume'
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		comment.access 'read write'
		comment.type INTEGER
		comment.count 2
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		comment.dbmax 0
		iface MIXER
		name 'Master Capture Volume'
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		value.1 256
	}
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		comment.access 'read write'
		comment.type INTEGER
		comment.count 2
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		comment.dbmax 0
		iface MIXER
		name 'PCM Capture Volume'
		value.0 256
		value.1 256
	}
	control.13 {
		comment.access 'read write'
		comment.type INTEGER
		comment.count 2
		comment.range '0 - 256'
		comment.dbmin -6400
		comment.dbmax 0
		iface MIXER
		name 'Line-in Capture Volume'
		value.0 256
		value.1 256
	}
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		comment.access 'read write'
		comment.type INTEGER
		comment.count 2
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		comment.dbmin -6400
		comment.dbmax 0
		iface MIXER
		name 'Mic Capture Volume'
		value.0 256
		value.1 256
	}
	control.15 {
		comment.access 'read write'
		comment.type INTEGER
		comment.count 2
		comment.range '0 - 256'
		comment.dbmin -6400
		comment.dbmax 0
		iface MIXER
		name 'S/PDIF-in Capture Volume'
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	}
	control.16 {
		comment.access 'read write'
		comment.type BOOLEAN
		comment.count 1
		iface MIXER
		name 'PCM Capture Switch'
		value true
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	control.17 {
		comment.access 'read write'
		comment.type BOOLEAN
		comment.count 1
		iface MIXER
		name 'Line-in Capture Switch'
		value true
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	control.18 {
		comment.access 'read write'
		comment.type BOOLEAN
		comment.count 1
		iface MIXER
		name 'Mic Capture Switch'
		value false
	}
	control.19 {
		comment.access 'read write'
		comment.type BOOLEAN
		comment.count 1
		iface MIXER
		name 'S/PDIF-in Capture Switch'
		value true
	}
	control.20 {
		comment.access 'read write'
		comment.type BOOLEAN
		comment.count 1
		iface MIXER
		name 'Line-in Playback Switch'
		value true
	}
	control.21 {
		comment.access 'read write'
		comment.type BOOLEAN
		comment.count 1
		iface MIXER
		name 'S/PDIF-out Playback Switch'
		value false
	}
	control.22 {
		comment.access 'read write'
		comment.type BOOLEAN
		comment.count 1
		iface MIXER
		name 'S/PDIF-in Playback Switch'
		value false
	}
	control.23 {
		comment.access 'read write'
		comment.type BOOLEAN
		comment.count 1
		iface MIXER
		name 'Front Playback Switch'
		value true
	}
	control.24 {
		comment.access 'read write'
		comment.type BOOLEAN
		comment.count 1
		iface MIXER
		name 'Surround Playback Switch'
		value true
	}
	control.25 {
		comment.access 'read write'
		comment.type BOOLEAN
		comment.count 1
		iface MIXER
		name 'Center/LFE Playback Switch'
		value true
	}
	control.26 {
		comment.access 'read write'
		comment.type BOOLEAN
		comment.count 1
		iface MIXER
		name 'Side Playback Switch'
		value true
	}
	control.27 {
		comment.access read
		comment.type IEC958
		comment.count 1
		iface PCM
		device 4
		name 'IEC958 Playback Mask'
		value ffffffff00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
	}
	control.28 {
		comment.access 'read write'
		comment.type IEC958
		comment.count 1
		iface PCM
		device 4
		name 'IEC958 Playback Default'
		value '0082000200000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000'
	}
	control.29 {
		comment.access 'read write'
		comment.type IEC958
		comment.count 1
		iface PCM
		device 4
		name 'IEC958 Playback PCM Stream'
		value '0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000'
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}
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	control.1 {
		comment.access 'read write'
		comment.type BOOLEAN
		comment.count 1
		iface MIXER
		name 'Mic Capture Switch'
		value true
	}
	control.2 {
		comment.access 'read write'
		comment.type INTEGER
		comment.count 1
		comment.range '0 - 3072'
		iface MIXER
		name 'Mic Capture Volume'
		value 1536
	}
}
state.HDMI {
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		comment.access read
		comment.type IEC958
		comment.count 1
		iface MIXER
		name 'IEC958 Playback Con Mask'
		value '0fff000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000'
	}
	control.2 {
		comment.access read
		comment.type IEC958
		comment.count 1
		iface MIXER
		name 'IEC958 Playback Pro Mask'
		value '0f00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000'
	}
	control.3 {
		comment.access 'read write'
		comment.type IEC958
		comment.count 1
		iface MIXER
		name 'IEC958 Playback Default'
		value '0400000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000'
	}
	control.4 {
		comment.access 'read write'
		comment.type BOOLEAN
		comment.count 1
		iface MIXER
		name 'IEC958 Playback Switch'
		value false
	}
}
state.Bt878 {
	control.1 {
		comment.access 'read write'
		comment.type INTEGER
		comment.count 1
		comment.range '0 - 15'
		iface MIXER
		name 'Capture Volume'
		value 12
	}
	control.2 {
		comment.access 'read write'
		comment.type BOOLEAN
		comment.count 1
		iface MIXER
		name 'Capture Boost'
		value false
	}
	control.3 {
		comment.access 'read write'
		comment.type ENUMERATED
		comment.count 1
		comment.item.0 'TV Tuner'
		comment.item.1 FM
		comment.item.2 Mic/Line
		iface MIXER
		name 'Capture Source'
		value 'TV Tuner'
	}
}
--endcollapse--


!!All Loaded Modules
!!------------------

Module
radeon
drm
ipt_REJECT
xt_tcpudp
nf_conntrack_ipv4
nf_defrag_ipv4
xt_state
nf_conntrack
iptable_filter
ip_tables
x_tables
ipv6
joydev
hid_cherry
usbhid
hid
msp3400
usb_storage
snd_seq_dummy
tuner_simple
snd_seq_oss
tuner_types
snd_hda_codec_atihdmi
snd_seq_midi_event
snd_seq
snd_hda_codec_realtek
tuner
snd_pcm_oss
snd_usb_audio
snd_usb_lib
snd_rawmidi
snd_seq_device
uvcvideo
snd_bt87x
snd_ctxfi
snd_hda_intel
snd_hda_codec
bttv
snd_mixer_oss
ir_common
i2c_algo_bit
snd_hwdep
snd_pcm
snd_timer
snd
ohci1394
v4l2_common
videodev
v4l1_compat
v4l2_compat_ioctl32
videobuf_dma_sg
videobuf_core
btcx_risc
i2c_piix4
pcspkr
soundcore
ieee1394
tveeprom
serio_raw
k8temp
i2c_core
sg
ohci_hcd
ehci_hcd
snd_page_alloc
r8169
mii
evdev
thermal
fan
button
battery
ac
usblp
usbcore
fuse
cpufreq_powersave
cpufreq_ondemand
powernow_k8
freq_table
processor
rtc_cmos
rtc_core
rtc_lib
xfs
exportfs
sr_mod
sd_mod
cdrom
pata_acpi
ahci
pata_atiixp
ata_generic
libata
scsi_mod


!!Sysfs Files
!!-----------

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Re: Testers wanted: New SB X-Fi driver

[Frank]

Oh sorry ... I mean ... SIDE and SURROUND (==REAR) are swapped!

Frashman schrieb:
>
>
> Takashi Iwai schrieb:
>> At Wed, 15 Jul 2009 12:55:23 +0200,
>> Frashman wrote:
>>  
>>> Hi Takashi,
>>>
>>> first of all, thank you for developing this driver.
>>> I tested it today. It works, so far.
>>>
>>> But two annoying things. As you mentioned, I got problems, if the 
>>> onboard sound modules are loaded. Then i get no sound out auf my xfi.
>>>     
>>
>> It's likely the collision of PCI device ID.
>> Some X-Fi models support both HD-audio and emu20kx-native modes.  The
>> modes are switched by some magical sequence.
>>
>> Anyway, please run alsa-info.sh with --no-upload option, and attach
>> the generated file.
>>   
> I let the kernel auto probe all sound modules and generated then the 
> alsa-info.txt
> It's attached.
>>  
>>> If I disable the loading of snd-hda-intel modules while booting, 
>>> then it works.
>>>
>>> The second problem is, that SIDE and SURROUND connectors are 
>>> interchanged. I'm absolutly sure, it works fine under windows and 
>>> the connector colors are also correct.
>>>
>>> If I run speaker-test -c8 the SIDE Speakers sounds come out of my 
>>> REAR (SURROUND) Speakers, while nothing is coming out of my rear 
>>> speakers, if i'm using speaker-test -c6
>>>     
>>
>> So, the side channels (channel 7 & 8) and the rear channels (3 & 4)
>> are swapped when running with 8 channel mode?
>>   
> The REAR and SURROUND channels are swapped in 4, 6 and 8channel mode 
> ... so they always swapped. (speaker-test)
> AND because there are swapped in 6channel mode too .... there is 
> nothing coming out of the rear channels, if I connect everything 
> right. I double checked it with windows and with cable colors.
>
>
> Sincerely,
> Frashman
>> Takashi
>> _______________________________________________
>> Alsa-devel mailing list
>> Alsa-devel@alsa-project.org
>> http://mailman.alsa-project.org/mailman/listinfo/alsa-devel
>>   
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Re: Testers wanted: New SB X-Fi driver

[Frank Roth]

I wrote the patch on my own ... *happy*
it works now ;-)

how to upload?


Greetings,
Frank




Frank schrieb:
> Oh sorry ... I mean ... SIDE and SURROUND (==REAR) are swapped!
>
> Frashman schrieb:
>   
>> Takashi Iwai schrieb:
>>     
>>> At Wed, 15 Jul 2009 12:55:23 +0200,
>>> Frashman wrote:
>>>  
>>>       
>>>> Hi Takashi,
>>>>
>>>> first of all, thank you for developing this driver.
>>>> I tested it today. It works, so far.
>>>>
>>>> But two annoying things. As you mentioned, I got problems, if the 
>>>> onboard sound modules are loaded. Then i get no sound out auf my xfi.
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>> It's likely the collision of PCI device ID.
>>> Some X-Fi models support both HD-audio and emu20kx-native modes.  The
>>> modes are switched by some magical sequence.
>>>
>>> Anyway, please run alsa-info.sh with --no-upload option, and attach
>>> the generated file.
>>>   
>>>       
>> I let the kernel auto probe all sound modules and generated then the 
>> alsa-info.txt
>> It's attached.
>>     
>>>  
>>>       
>>>> If I disable the loading of snd-hda-intel modules while booting, 
>>>> then it works.
>>>>
>>>> The second problem is, that SIDE and SURROUND connectors are 
>>>> interchanged. I'm absolutly sure, it works fine under windows and 
>>>> the connector colors are also correct.
>>>>
>>>> If I run speaker-test -c8 the SIDE Speakers sounds come out of my 
>>>> REAR (SURROUND) Speakers, while nothing is coming out of my rear 
>>>> speakers, if i'm using speaker-test -c6
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>> So, the side channels (channel 7 & 8) and the rear channels (3 & 4)
>>> are swapped when running with 8 channel mode?
>>>   
>>>       
>> The REAR and SURROUND channels are swapped in 4, 6 and 8channel mode 
>> ... so they always swapped. (speaker-test)
>> AND because there are swapped in 6channel mode too .... there is 
>> nothing coming out of the rear channels, if I connect everything 
>> right. I double checked it with windows and with cable colors.
>>
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> Frashman
>>     
>>> Takashi
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Alsa-devel mailing list
>>> Alsa-devel@alsa-project.org
>>> http://mailman.alsa-project.org/mailman/listinfo/alsa-devel
>>>   
>>>       
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
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Re: Testers wanted: New SB X-Fi driver

[Takashi Iwai]

At Mon, 20 Jul 2009 14:33:37 +0200,
Frank Roth wrote:
> 
> I wrote the patch on my own ... *happy*
> it works now ;-)
> 
> how to upload?

Please post your patch to ML (and Cc to me).
Give a proper changelog and your sign-off together.
See $LINUX/Documentation/SubmittingPatches for details.


thanks,

Takashi

> 
> 
> Greetings,
> Frank
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Frank schrieb:
> > Oh sorry ... I mean ... SIDE and SURROUND (==REAR) are swapped!
> >
> > Frashman schrieb:
> >   
> >> Takashi Iwai schrieb:
> >>     
> >>> At Wed, 15 Jul 2009 12:55:23 +0200,
> >>> Frashman wrote:
> >>>  
> >>>       
> >>>> Hi Takashi,
> >>>>
> >>>> first of all, thank you for developing this driver.
> >>>> I tested it today. It works, so far.
> >>>>
> >>>> But two annoying things. As you mentioned, I got problems, if the 
> >>>> onboard sound modules are loaded. Then i get no sound out auf my xfi.
> >>>>     
> >>>>         
> >>> It's likely the collision of PCI device ID.
> >>> Some X-Fi models support both HD-audio and emu20kx-native modes.  The
> >>> modes are switched by some magical sequence.
> >>>
> >>> Anyway, please run alsa-info.sh with --no-upload option, and attach
> >>> the generated file.
> >>>   
> >>>       
> >> I let the kernel auto probe all sound modules and generated then the 
> >> alsa-info.txt
> >> It's attached.
> >>     
> >>>  
> >>>       
> >>>> If I disable the loading of snd-hda-intel modules while booting, 
> >>>> then it works.
> >>>>
> >>>> The second problem is, that SIDE and SURROUND connectors are 
> >>>> interchanged. I'm absolutly sure, it works fine under windows and 
> >>>> the connector colors are also correct.
> >>>>
> >>>> If I run speaker-test -c8 the SIDE Speakers sounds come out of my 
> >>>> REAR (SURROUND) Speakers, while nothing is coming out of my rear 
> >>>> speakers, if i'm using speaker-test -c6
> >>>>     
> >>>>         
> >>> So, the side channels (channel 7 & 8) and the rear channels (3 & 4)
> >>> are swapped when running with 8 channel mode?
> >>>   
> >>>       
> >> The REAR and SURROUND channels are swapped in 4, 6 and 8channel mode 
> >> ... so they always swapped. (speaker-test)
> >> AND because there are swapped in 6channel mode too .... there is 
> >> nothing coming out of the rear channels, if I connect everything 
> >> right. I double checked it with windows and with cable colors.
> >>
> >>
> >> Sincerely,
> >> Frashman
> >>     
> >>> Takashi
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> Alsa-devel mailing list
> >>> Alsa-devel@alsa-project.org
> >>> http://mailman.alsa-project.org/mailman/listinfo/alsa-devel
> >>>   
> >>>       
> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>
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> 

[PATCH]ctxfi: Swapped SURROUND-SIDE channels on emu20k2

[Frank Roth]

My patch description:

On Soundblaster X-FI Titanium with emu20k2 the SIDE and SURROUND channels were swapped and wrong.
I double checked it with connector colors and creative soundblaster windows drivers.

So I swapped them to the true order.
Now "speaker-test -c6" and "speaker-test -c8" are working fine.

It's my first patch submit ever, so if I've done anything wrong, please correct me ;-)


Signed-off-by: Frank Roth <frashman@freenet.de>
--- alsa-driver-unstable/alsa-kernel/pci/ctxfi/ctdaio.c.orig	2009-07-20 16:20:37.273239043 +0200
+++ alsa-driver-unstable/alsa-kernel/pci/ctxfi/ctdaio.c	2009-07-20 14:26:59.798760829 +0200
@@ -57,9 +57,9 @@ struct daio_rsc_idx idx_20k1[NUM_DAIOTYP

  struct daio_rsc_idx idx_20k2[NUM_DAIOTYP] = {
  	[LINEO1] = {.left = 0x40, .right = 0x41},
-	[LINEO2] = {.left = 0x70, .right = 0x71},
+	[LINEO2] = {.left = 0x60, .right = 0x61},
  	[LINEO3] = {.left = 0x50, .right = 0x51},
-	[LINEO4] = {.left = 0x60, .right = 0x61},
+	[LINEO4] = {.left = 0x70, .right = 0x71},
  	[LINEIM] = {.left = 0x45, .right = 0xc5},
  	[SPDIFOO] = {.left = 0x00, .right = 0x01},
  	[SPDIFIO] = {.left = 0x05, .right = 0x85},

Re: [PATCH]ctxfi: Swapped SURROUND-SIDE channels on emu20k2

[Takashi Iwai]

At Mon, 20 Jul 2009 17:00:14 +0200,
Frank Roth wrote:
> 
> My patch description:
> 
> On Soundblaster X-FI Titanium with emu20k2 the SIDE and SURROUND channels were swapped and wrong.
> I double checked it with connector colors and creative soundblaster windows drivers.
> 
> So I swapped them to the true order.
> Now "speaker-test -c6" and "speaker-test -c8" are working fine.
> 
> It's my first patch submit ever, so if I've done anything wrong, please correct me ;-)
> 
> 
> Signed-off-by: Frank Roth <frashman@freenet.de>

Thanks, applied now.

(Though, the patch embedded in your mail couldn't be applied, likely
 due to your MUA.  Anyway, I edited it manually...)


Takashi


> --- alsa-driver-unstable/alsa-kernel/pci/ctxfi/ctdaio.c.orig	2009-07-20 16:20:37.273239043 +0200
> +++ alsa-driver-unstable/alsa-kernel/pci/ctxfi/ctdaio.c	2009-07-20 14:26:59.798760829 +0200
> @@ -57,9 +57,9 @@ struct daio_rsc_idx idx_20k1[NUM_DAIOTYP
> 
>   struct daio_rsc_idx idx_20k2[NUM_DAIOTYP] = {
>   	[LINEO1] = {.left = 0x40, .right = 0x41},
> -	[LINEO2] = {.left = 0x70, .right = 0x71},
> +	[LINEO2] = {.left = 0x60, .right = 0x61},
>   	[LINEO3] = {.left = 0x50, .right = 0x51},
> -	[LINEO4] = {.left = 0x60, .right = 0x61},
> +	[LINEO4] = {.left = 0x70, .right = 0x71},
>   	[LINEIM] = {.left = 0x45, .right = 0xc5},
>   	[SPDIFOO] = {.left = 0x00, .right = 0x01},
>   	[SPDIFIO] = {.left = 0x05, .right = 0x85},
> 

Re: Testers wanted: New SB X-Fi driver

[Ted T. Logan]

Takashi, please, what must I do to get your xfi driver to stop clicking?

On Thu, 2009-07-16 at 11:22 +0200, Takashi Iwai wrote:

> At Wed, 15 Jul 2009 12:55:23 +0200,
> Frashman wrote:
> > 
> > Hi Takashi,
> > 
> > first of all, thank you for developing this driver.
> > I tested it today. It works, so far.
> > 
> > But two annoying things. As you mentioned, I got problems, if the 
> > onboard sound modules are loaded. Then i get no sound out auf my xfi.
> 
> It's likely the collision of PCI device ID.
> Some X-Fi models support both HD-audio and emu20kx-native modes.  The
> modes are switched by some magical sequence.
> 
> Anyway, please run alsa-info.sh with --no-upload option, and attach
> the generated file.
> 
> > If I disable the loading of snd-hda-intel modules while booting, then it 
> > works.
> > 
> > The second problem is, that SIDE and SURROUND connectors are 
> > interchanged. I'm absolutly sure, it works fine under windows and the 
> > connector colors are also correct.
> > 
> > If I run speaker-test -c8 the SIDE Speakers sounds come out of my REAR 
> > (SURROUND) Speakers, while nothing is coming out of my rear speakers, if 
> > i'm using speaker-test -c6
> 
> So, the side channels (channel 7 & 8) and the rear channels (3 & 4)
> are swapped when running with 8 channel mode?
> 
> 
> Takashi
> _______________________________________________
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Re: Testers wanted: New SB X-Fi driver

[John L. Utz III]

Debug the problem, write code that fixes it and then send in a patch.
That's why this is the alsa *developers* mailing list.

Ted T. Logan wrote:
> Takashi, please, what must I do to get your xfi driver to stop clicking?
> 
> On Thu, 2009-07-16 at 11:22 +0200, Takashi Iwai wrote:
> 
>> At Wed, 15 Jul 2009 12:55:23 +0200,
>> Frashman wrote:
>>> Hi Takashi,
>>>
>>> first of all, thank you for developing this driver.
>>> I tested it today. It works, so far.
>>>
>>> But two annoying things. As you mentioned, I got problems, if the 
>>> onboard sound modules are loaded. Then i get no sound out auf my xfi.
>> It's likely the collision of PCI device ID.
>> Some X-Fi models support both HD-audio and emu20kx-native modes.  The
>> modes are switched by some magical sequence.
>>
>> Anyway, please run alsa-info.sh with --no-upload option, and attach
>> the generated file.
>>
>>> If I disable the loading of snd-hda-intel modules while booting, then it 
>>> works.
>>>
>>> The second problem is, that SIDE and SURROUND connectors are 
>>> interchanged. I'm absolutly sure, it works fine under windows and the 
>>> connector colors are also correct.
>>>
>>> If I run speaker-test -c8 the SIDE Speakers sounds come out of my REAR 
>>> (SURROUND) Speakers, while nothing is coming out of my rear speakers, if 
>>> i'm using speaker-test -c6
>> So, the side channels (channel 7 & 8) and the rear channels (3 & 4)
>> are swapped when running with 8 channel mode?
>>
>>
>> Takashi
>> _______________________________________________
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>> Alsa-devel@alsa-project.org
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Re: Testers wanted: New SB X-Fi driver

[Ted T. Logan]

Maybe you haven't been following the thread.  I've been trying to debug
the problem.  As I mentioned to Takashi, there's not a point where it
broke, it never worked with this driver.
There have always been clicks.


However, it does not have clicks with the following driver:
XFiDrv_Linux_Public_US_1.00.tar.gz

Sending out condescending messages like this after I was responding to
the "testers wanted" mailer which said all cards should be supported now
is completely unproductive.

On Thu, 2009-07-16 at 12:20 -0700, John L. Utz III wrote:

> Debug the problem, write code that fixes it and then send in a patch.
> That's why this is the alsa *developers* mailing list.
> 
> Ted T. Logan wrote:
> > Takashi, please, what must I do to get your xfi driver to stop clicking?
> > 
> > On Thu, 2009-07-16 at 11:22 +0200, Takashi Iwai wrote:
> > 
> >> At Wed, 15 Jul 2009 12:55:23 +0200,
> >> Frashman wrote:
> >>> Hi Takashi,
> >>>
> >>> first of all, thank you for developing this driver.
> >>> I tested it today. It works, so far.
> >>>
> >>> But two annoying things. As you mentioned, I got problems, if the 
> >>> onboard sound modules are loaded. Then i get no sound out auf my xfi.
> >> It's likely the collision of PCI device ID.
> >> Some X-Fi models support both HD-audio and emu20kx-native modes.  The
> >> modes are switched by some magical sequence.
> >>
> >> Anyway, please run alsa-info.sh with --no-upload option, and attach
> >> the generated file.
> >>
> >>> If I disable the loading of snd-hda-intel modules while booting, then it 
> >>> works.
> >>>
> >>> The second problem is, that SIDE and SURROUND connectors are 
> >>> interchanged. I'm absolutly sure, it works fine under windows and the 
> >>> connector colors are also correct.
> >>>
> >>> If I run speaker-test -c8 the SIDE Speakers sounds come out of my REAR 
> >>> (SURROUND) Speakers, while nothing is coming out of my rear speakers, if 
> >>> i'm using speaker-test -c6
> >> So, the side channels (channel 7 & 8) and the rear channels (3 & 4)
> >> are swapped when running with 8 channel mode?
> >>
> >>
> >> Takashi
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Alsa-devel mailing list
> >> Alsa-devel@alsa-project.org
> >> http://mailman.alsa-project.org/mailman/listinfo/alsa-devel
> > _______________________________________________
> > Alsa-devel mailing list
> > Alsa-devel@alsa-project.org
> > http://mailman.alsa-project.org/mailman/listinfo/alsa-devel
> > 
> 
> 

Re: Testers wanted: New SB X-Fi driver

[Takashi Iwai]

At Sun, 19 Jul 2009 10:35:21 -0500,
Ted T. Logan wrote:
> 
> Maybe you haven't been following the thread.  I've been trying to debug the
> problem.  As I mentioned to Takashi, there's not a point where it broke, it
> never worked with this driver.
> There have always been clicks.
> 
> However, it does not have clicks with the following driver:
> XFiDrv_Linux_Public_US_1.00.tar.gz
> 
> Sending out condescending messages like this after I was responding to the
> "testers wanted" mailer which said all cards should be supported now is
> completely unproductive.

Well, the current situation is that I've got no other report but you
regarding the specific problem.  There is a known issue with openal,
accordingly, but not all apps.  So, this is very likely a different
issue.

Actually, it's still the phase to gather all information to know which
part exactly is problematic.  If you find any other guys that have the
exact same problem, let me know.  It would make easier to find out a
problem pattern, either for finding out the culprit or reproducing the
problem.

Or, you can do trial-and-error by comparing the driver above and the
current one (maybe the first committed version is easier to compare).
This can't be done without the real hardware, so it's actually up to
you how to fix the issue...


Takashi

> 
> On Thu, 2009-07-16 at 12:20 -0700, John L. Utz III wrote:
> 
>     Debug the problem, write code that fixes it and then send in a patch.
>     That's why this is the alsa *developers* mailing list.
>     
>     Ted T. Logan wrote:
>     > Takashi, please, what must I do to get your xfi driver to stop clicking?
>     > 
>     > On Thu, 2009-07-16 at 11:22 +0200, Takashi Iwai wrote:
>     > 
>     >> At Wed, 15 Jul 2009 12:55:23 +0200,
>     >> Frashman wrote:
>     >>> Hi Takashi,
>     >>>
>     >>> first of all, thank you for developing this driver.
>     >>> I tested it today. It works, so far.
>     >>>
>     >>> But two annoying things. As you mentioned, I got problems, if the 
>     >>> onboard sound modules are loaded. Then i get no sound out auf my xfi.
>     >> It's likely the collision of PCI device ID.
>     >> Some X-Fi models support both HD-audio and emu20kx-native modes.  The
>     >> modes are switched by some magical sequence.
>     >>
>     >> Anyway, please run alsa-info.sh with --no-upload option, and attach
>     >> the generated file.
>     >>
>     >>> If I disable the loading of snd-hda-intel modules while booting, then it 
>     >>> works.
>     >>>
>     >>> The second problem is, that SIDE and SURROUND connectors are 
>     >>> interchanged. I'm absolutly sure, it works fine under windows and the 
>     >>> connector colors are also correct.
>     >>>
>     >>> If I run speaker-test -c8 the SIDE Speakers sounds come out of my REAR 
>     >>> (SURROUND) Speakers, while nothing is coming out of my rear speakers, if 
>     >>> i'm using speaker-test -c6
>     >> So, the side channels (channel 7 & 8) and the rear channels (3 & 4)
>     >> are swapped when running with 8 channel mode?
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> Takashi
>     >> _______________________________________________
>     >> Alsa-devel mailing list
>     >> Alsa-devel@alsa-project.org
>     >> http://mailman.alsa-project.org/mailman/listinfo/alsa-devel
>     > _______________________________________________
>     > Alsa-devel mailing list
>     > Alsa-devel@alsa-project.org
>     > http://mailman.alsa-project.org/mailman/listinfo/alsa-devel
>     > 
> 
> 

Re: Testers wanted: New SB X-Fi driver

[Ted T. Logan]

Thanks.

Basically the driver from creative, the old one, works without clicks:

XFiDrv_Linux_US-1.18.tar.gz
>From April, 2008

and this one works without clicks.

 XFiDrv_Linux_Public_US_1.00.tar.gz


lspci lists it as:
03:03.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB X-Fi

and in xp, it uses the same x-fi drivers as the others.

I have never been able to get any driver you released to work with it.

Can you tell me the first driver you had that you recommend I test it
with?

On Sun, 2009-07-19 at 18:01 +0200, Takashi Iwai wrote:

> At Sun, 19 Jul 2009 10:35:21 -0500,
> Ted T. Logan wrote:
> > 
> > Maybe you haven't been following the thread.  I've been trying to debug the
> > problem.  As I mentioned to Takashi, there's not a point where it broke, it
> > never worked with this driver.
> > There have always been clicks.
> > 
> > However, it does not have clicks with the following driver:
> > XFiDrv_Linux_Public_US_1.00.tar.gz
> > 
> > Sending out condescending messages like this after I was responding to the
> > "testers wanted" mailer which said all cards should be supported now is
> > completely unproductive.
> 
> Well, the current situation is that I've got no other report but you
> regarding the specific problem.  There is a known issue with openal,
> accordingly, but not all apps.  So, this is very likely a different
> issue.
> 
> Actually, it's still the phase to gather all information to know which
> part exactly is problematic.  If you find any other guys that have the
> exact same problem, let me know.  It would make easier to find out a
> problem pattern, either for finding out the culprit or reproducing the
> problem.
> 
> Or, you can do trial-and-error by comparing the driver above and the
> current one (maybe the first committed version is easier to compare).
> This can't be done without the real hardware, so it's actually up to
> you how to fix the issue...
> 
> 
> Takashi
> 
> > 
> > On Thu, 2009-07-16 at 12:20 -0700, John L. Utz III wrote:
> > 
> >     Debug the problem, write code that fixes it and then send in a patch.
> >     That's why this is the alsa *developers* mailing list.
> >     
> >     Ted T. Logan wrote:
> >     > Takashi, please, what must I do to get your xfi driver to stop clicking?
> >     > 
> >     > On Thu, 2009-07-16 at 11:22 +0200, Takashi Iwai wrote:
> >     > 
> >     >> At Wed, 15 Jul 2009 12:55:23 +0200,
> >     >> Frashman wrote:
> >     >>> Hi Takashi,
> >     >>>
> >     >>> first of all, thank you for developing this driver.
> >     >>> I tested it today. It works, so far.
> >     >>>
> >     >>> But two annoying things. As you mentioned, I got problems, if the 
> >     >>> onboard sound modules are loaded. Then i get no sound out auf my xfi.
> >     >> It's likely the collision of PCI device ID.
> >     >> Some X-Fi models support both HD-audio and emu20kx-native modes.  The
> >     >> modes are switched by some magical sequence.
> >     >>
> >     >> Anyway, please run alsa-info.sh with --no-upload option, and attach
> >     >> the generated file.
> >     >>
> >     >>> If I disable the loading of snd-hda-intel modules while booting, then it 
> >     >>> works.
> >     >>>
> >     >>> The second problem is, that SIDE and SURROUND connectors are 
> >     >>> interchanged. I'm absolutly sure, it works fine under windows and the 
> >     >>> connector colors are also correct.
> >     >>>
> >     >>> If I run speaker-test -c8 the SIDE Speakers sounds come out of my REAR 
> >     >>> (SURROUND) Speakers, while nothing is coming out of my rear speakers, if 
> >     >>> i'm using speaker-test -c6
> >     >> So, the side channels (channel 7 & 8) and the rear channels (3 & 4)
> >     >> are swapped when running with 8 channel mode?
> >     >>
> >     >>
> >     >> Takashi
> >     >> _______________________________________________
> >     >> Alsa-devel mailing list
> >     >> Alsa-devel@alsa-project.org
> >     >> http://mailman.alsa-project.org/mailman/listinfo/alsa-devel
> >     > _______________________________________________
> >     > Alsa-devel mailing list
> >     > Alsa-devel@alsa-project.org
> >     > http://mailman.alsa-project.org/mailman/listinfo/alsa-devel
> >     > 
> > 
> > 

Re: Testers wanted: New SB X-Fi driver

[Takashi Iwai]

At Sun, 19 Jul 2009 19:38:59 -0500,
Ted T. Logan wrote:
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Basically the driver from creative, the old one, works without clicks:
> 
> XFiDrv_Linux_US-1.18.tar.gz
> >From April, 2008

Where is it available?

> and this one works without clicks.
> 
> XFiDrv_Linux_Public_US_1.00.tar.gz

So, do both versions work on yours?
What are the differences between them?

> lspci lists it as:
> 03:03.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB X-Fi
> 
> and in xp, it uses the same x-fi drivers as the others.
> 
> I have never been able to get any driver you released to work with it.
> 
> Can you tell me the first driver you had that you recommend I test it with?

GIT is the easiest way.  For example, look at the page below:
   http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/tiwai/sound-2.6.git;a=history;f=sound/pci/ctxfi;h=91c958a7e171313fe68d728a3b4860287ad40aa7;hb=HEAD


Takashi

> On Sun, 2009-07-19 at 18:01 +0200, Takashi Iwai wrote:
> 
>     At Sun, 19 Jul 2009 10:35:21 -0500,
>     Ted T. Logan wrote:
>     > 
>     > Maybe you haven't been following the thread.  I've been trying to debug the
>     > problem.  As I mentioned to Takashi, there's not a point where it broke, it
>     > never worked with this driver.
>     > There have always been clicks.
>     > 
>     > However, it does not have clicks with the following driver:
>     > XFiDrv_Linux_Public_US_1.00.tar.gz
>     > 
>     > Sending out condescending messages like this after I was responding to the
>     > "testers wanted" mailer which said all cards should be supported now is
>     > completely unproductive.
>     
>     Well, the current situation is that I've got no other report but you
>     regarding the specific problem.  There is a known issue with openal,
>     accordingly, but not all apps.  So, this is very likely a different
>     issue.
>     
>     Actually, it's still the phase to gather all information to know which
>     part exactly is problematic.  If you find any other guys that have the
>     exact same problem, let me know.  It would make easier to find out a
>     problem pattern, either for finding out the culprit or reproducing the
>     problem.
>     
>     Or, you can do trial-and-error by comparing the driver above and the
>     current one (maybe the first committed version is easier to compare).
>     This can't be done without the real hardware, so it's actually up to
>     you how to fix the issue...
> 
>     Takashi
>     
>     > 
>     > On Thu, 2009-07-16 at 12:20 -0700, John L. Utz III wrote:
>     > 
>     >     Debug the problem, write code that fixes it and then send in a patch.
>     >     That's why this is the alsa *developers* mailing list.
>     >     
>     >     Ted T. Logan wrote:
>     >     > Takashi, please, what must I do to get your xfi driver to stop clicking?
>     >     > 
>     >     > On Thu, 2009-07-16 at 11:22 +0200, Takashi Iwai wrote:
>     >     > 
>     >     >> At Wed, 15 Jul 2009 12:55:23 +0200,
>     >     >> Frashman wrote:
>     >     >>> Hi Takashi,
>     >     >>>
>     >     >>> first of all, thank you for developing this driver.
>     >     >>> I tested it today. It works, so far.
>     >     >>>
>     >     >>> But two annoying things. As you mentioned, I got problems, if the 
>     >     >>> onboard sound modules are loaded. Then i get no sound out auf my xfi.
>     >     >> It's likely the collision of PCI device ID.
>     >     >> Some X-Fi models support both HD-audio and emu20kx-native modes.  The
>     >     >> modes are switched by some magical sequence.
>     >     >>
>     >     >> Anyway, please run alsa-info.sh with --no-upload option, and attach
>     >     >> the generated file.
>     >     >>
>     >     >>> If I disable the loading of snd-hda-intel modules while booting, then it 
>     >     >>> works.
>     >     >>>
>     >     >>> The second problem is, that SIDE and SURROUND connectors are 
>     >     >>> interchanged. I'm absolutly sure, it works fine under windows and the 
>     >     >>> connector colors are also correct.
>     >     >>>
>     >     >>> If I run speaker-test -c8 the SIDE Speakers sounds come out of my REAR 
>     >     >>> (SURROUND) Speakers, while nothing is coming out of my rear speakers, if 
>     >     >>> i'm using speaker-test -c6
>     >     >> So, the side channels (channel 7 & 8) and the rear channels (3 & 4)
>     >     >> are swapped when running with 8 channel mode?
>     >     >>
>     >     >>
>     >     >> Takashi
>     >     >> _______________________________________________
>     >     >> Alsa-devel mailing list
>     >     >> Alsa-devel@alsa-project.org
>     >     >> http://mailman.alsa-project.org/mailman/listinfo/alsa-devel
>     >     > _______________________________________________
>     >     > Alsa-devel mailing list
>     >     > Alsa-devel@alsa-project.org
>     >     > http://mailman.alsa-project.org/mailman/listinfo/alsa-devel
>     >     > 
>     > 
>     > 
> 
> 

Re: Testers wanted: New SB X-Fi driver

[Ted T. Logan]

http://opensource.creative.com/soundcard.html has 1.18


http://ccftp.creative.com/manualdn/Drivers/AVP/10792/0x0343D29A/XFiDrv_Linux_Public_US_1.00.tar.gz

I think the difference is the 1.00 is newer, but just listed at a
different location or something.

On Mon, 2009-07-20 at 07:37 +0200, Takashi Iwai wrote:

> At Sun, 19 Jul 2009 19:38:59 -0500,
> Ted T. Logan wrote:
> > 
> > Thanks.
> > 
> > Basically the driver from creative, the old one, works without clicks:
> > 
> > XFiDrv_Linux_US-1.18.tar.gz
> > >From April, 2008
> 
> Where is it available?
> 
> > and this one works without clicks.
> > 
> > 
> 
> So, do both versions work on yours?
> What are the differences between them?
> 
> > lspci lists it as:
> > 03:03.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB X-Fi
> > 
> > and in xp, it uses the same x-fi drivers as the others.
> > 
> > I have never been able to get any driver you released to work with it.
> > 
> > Can you tell me the first driver you had that you recommend I test it with?
> 
> GIT is the easiest way.  For example, look at the page below:
>    http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/tiwai/sound-2.6.git;a=history;f=sound/pci/ctxfi;h=91c958a7e171313fe68d728a3b4860287ad40aa7;hb=HEAD
> 
> 
> Takashi
> 
> > On Sun, 2009-07-19 at 18:01 +0200, Takashi Iwai wrote:
> > 
> >     At Sun, 19 Jul 2009 10:35:21 -0500,
> >     Ted T. Logan wrote:
> >     > 
> >     > Maybe you haven't been following the thread.  I've been trying to debug the
> >     > problem.  As I mentioned to Takashi, there's not a point where it broke, it
> >     > never worked with this driver.
> >     > There have always been clicks.
> >     > 
> >     > However, it does not have clicks with the following driver:
> >     > XFiDrv_Linux_Public_US_1.00.tar.gz
> >     > 
> >     > Sending out condescending messages like this after I was responding to the
> >     > "testers wanted" mailer which said all cards should be supported now is
> >     > completely unproductive.
> >     
> >     Well, the current situation is that I've got no other report but you
> >     regarding the specific problem.  There is a known issue with openal,
> >     accordingly, but not all apps.  So, this is very likely a different
> >     issue.
> >     
> >     Actually, it's still the phase to gather all information to know which
> >     part exactly is problematic.  If you find any other guys that have the
> >     exact same problem, let me know.  It would make easier to find out a
> >     problem pattern, either for finding out the culprit or reproducing the
> >     problem.
> >     
> >     Or, you can do trial-and-error by comparing the driver above and the
> >     current one (maybe the first committed version is easier to compare).
> >     This can't be done without the real hardware, so it's actually up to
> >     you how to fix the issue...
> > 
> >     Takashi
> >     
> >     > 
> >     > On Thu, 2009-07-16 at 12:20 -0700, John L. Utz III wrote:
> >     > 
> >     >     Debug the problem, write code that fixes it and then send in a patch.
> >     >     That's why this is the alsa *developers* mailing list.
> >     >     
> >     >     Ted T. Logan wrote:
> >     >     > Takashi, please, what must I do to get your xfi driver to stop clicking?
> >     >     > 
> >     >     > On Thu, 2009-07-16 at 11:22 +0200, Takashi Iwai wrote:
> >     >     > 
> >     >     >> At Wed, 15 Jul 2009 12:55:23 +0200,
> >     >     >> Frashman wrote:
> >     >     >>> Hi Takashi,
> >     >     >>>
> >     >     >>> first of all, thank you for developing this driver.
> >     >     >>> I tested it today. It works, so far.
> >     >     >>>
> >     >     >>> But two annoying things. As you mentioned, I got problems, if the 
> >     >     >>> onboard sound modules are loaded. Then i get no sound out auf my xfi.
> >     >     >> It's likely the collision of PCI device ID.
> >     >     >> Some X-Fi models support both HD-audio and emu20kx-native modes.  The
> >     >     >> modes are switched by some magical sequence.
> >     >     >>
> >     >     >> Anyway, please run alsa-info.sh with --no-upload option, and attach
> >     >     >> the generated file.
> >     >     >>
> >     >     >>> If I disable the loading of snd-hda-intel modules while booting, then it 
> >     >     >>> works.
> >     >     >>>
> >     >     >>> The second problem is, that SIDE and SURROUND connectors are 
> >     >     >>> interchanged. I'm absolutly sure, it works fine under windows and the 
> >     >     >>> connector colors are also correct.
> >     >     >>>
> >     >     >>> If I run speaker-test -c8 the SIDE Speakers sounds come out of my REAR 
> >     >     >>> (SURROUND) Speakers, while nothing is coming out of my rear speakers, if 
> >     >     >>> i'm using speaker-test -c6
> >     >     >> So, the side channels (channel 7 & 8) and the rear channels (3 & 4)
> >     >     >> are swapped when running with 8 channel mode?
> >     >     >>
> >     >     >>
> >     >     >> Takashi
> >     >     >> _______________________________________________
> >     >     >> Alsa-devel mailing list
> >     >     >> Alsa-devel@alsa-project.org
> >     >     >> http://mailman.alsa-project.org/mailman/listinfo/alsa-devel
> >     >     > _______________________________________________
> >     >     > Alsa-devel mailing list
> >     >     > Alsa-devel@alsa-project.org
> >     >     > http://mailman.alsa-project.org/mailman/listinfo/alsa-devel
> >     >     > 
> >     > 
> >     > 
> > 
> > 

Re: Testers wanted: New SB X-Fi driver

[Ted T. Logan]

Sorry,

Meant to mention the OSS Drivers from 4front from a while back also
worked without clicking.

On Mon, 2009-07-20 at 07:37 +0200, Takashi Iwai wrote:

> At Sun, 19 Jul 2009 19:38:59 -0500,
> Ted T. Logan wrote:
> > 
> > Thanks.
> > 
> > Basically the driver from creative, the old one, works without clicks:
> > 
> > XFiDrv_Linux_US-1.18.tar.gz
> > >From April, 2008
> 
> Where is it available?
> 
> > and this one works without clicks.
> > 
> > XFiDrv_Linux_Public_US_1.00.tar.gz
> 
> So, do both versions work on yours?
> What are the differences between them?
> 
> > lspci lists it as:
> > 03:03.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB X-Fi
> > 
> > and in xp, it uses the same x-fi drivers as the others.
> > 
> > I have never been able to get any driver you released to work with it.
> > 
> > Can you tell me the first driver you had that you recommend I test it with?
> 
> GIT is the easiest way.  For example, look at the page below:
>    http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/tiwai/sound-2.6.git;a=history;f=sound/pci/ctxfi;h=91c958a7e171313fe68d728a3b4860287ad40aa7;hb=HEAD
> 
> 
> Takashi
> 
> > On Sun, 2009-07-19 at 18:01 +0200, Takashi Iwai wrote:
> > 
> >     At Sun, 19 Jul 2009 10:35:21 -0500,
> >     Ted T. Logan wrote:
> >     > 
> >     > Maybe you haven't been following the thread.  I've been trying to debug the
> >     > problem.  As I mentioned to Takashi, there's not a point where it broke, it
> >     > never worked with this driver.
> >     > There have always been clicks.
> >     > 
> >     > However, it does not have clicks with the following driver:
> >     > XFiDrv_Linux_Public_US_1.00.tar.gz
> >     > 
> >     > Sending out condescending messages like this after I was responding to the
> >     > "testers wanted" mailer which said all cards should be supported now is
> >     > completely unproductive.
> >     
> >     Well, the current situation is that I've got no other report but you
> >     regarding the specific problem.  There is a known issue with openal,
> >     accordingly, but not all apps.  So, this is very likely a different
> >     issue.
> >     
> >     Actually, it's still the phase to gather all information to know which
> >     part exactly is problematic.  If you find any other guys that have the
> >     exact same problem, let me know.  It would make easier to find out a
> >     problem pattern, either for finding out the culprit or reproducing the
> >     problem.
> >     
> >     Or, you can do trial-and-error by comparing the driver above and the
> >     current one (maybe the first committed version is easier to compare).
> >     This can't be done without the real hardware, so it's actually up to
> >     you how to fix the issue...
> > 
> >     Takashi
> >     
> >     > 
> >     > On Thu, 2009-07-16 at 12:20 -0700, John L. Utz III wrote:
> >     > 
> >     >     Debug the problem, write code that fixes it and then send in a patch.
> >     >     That's why this is the alsa *developers* mailing list.
> >     >     
> >     >     Ted T. Logan wrote:
> >     >     > Takashi, please, what must I do to get your xfi driver to stop clicking?
> >     >     > 
> >     >     > On Thu, 2009-07-16 at 11:22 +0200, Takashi Iwai wrote:
> >     >     > 
> >     >     >> At Wed, 15 Jul 2009 12:55:23 +0200,
> >     >     >> Frashman wrote:
> >     >     >>> Hi Takashi,
> >     >     >>>
> >     >     >>> first of all, thank you for developing this driver.
> >     >     >>> I tested it today. It works, so far.
> >     >     >>>
> >     >     >>> But two annoying things. As you mentioned, I got problems, if the 
> >     >     >>> onboard sound modules are loaded. Then i get no sound out auf my xfi.
> >     >     >> It's likely the collision of PCI device ID.
> >     >     >> Some X-Fi models support both HD-audio and emu20kx-native modes.  The
> >     >     >> modes are switched by some magical sequence.
> >     >     >>
> >     >     >> Anyway, please run alsa-info.sh with --no-upload option, and attach
> >     >     >> the generated file.
> >     >     >>
> >     >     >>> If I disable the loading of snd-hda-intel modules while booting, then it 
> >     >     >>> works.
> >     >     >>>
> >     >     >>> The second problem is, that SIDE and SURROUND connectors are 
> >     >     >>> interchanged. I'm absolutly sure, it works fine under windows and the 
> >     >     >>> connector colors are also correct.
> >     >     >>>
> >     >     >>> If I run speaker-test -c8 the SIDE Speakers sounds come out of my REAR 
> >     >     >>> (SURROUND) Speakers, while nothing is coming out of my rear speakers, if 
> >     >     >>> i'm using speaker-test -c6
> >     >     >> So, the side channels (channel 7 & 8) and the rear channels (3 & 4)
> >     >     >> are swapped when running with 8 channel mode?
> >     >     >>
> >     >     >>
> >     >     >> Takashi
> >     >     >> _______________________________________________
> >     >     >> Alsa-devel mailing list
> >     >     >> Alsa-devel@alsa-project.org
> >     >     >> http://mailman.alsa-project.org/mailman/listinfo/alsa-devel
> >     >     > _______________________________________________
> >     >     > Alsa-devel mailing list
> >     >     > Alsa-devel@alsa-project.org
> >     >     > http://mailman.alsa-project.org/mailman/listinfo/alsa-devel
> >     >     > 
> >     > 
> >     > 
> > 
> > 

Re: Testers wanted: New SB X-Fi driver

[Takashi Iwai]

At Mon, 20 Jul 2009 12:33:24 -0500,
Ted T. Logan wrote:
> 
> Sorry,
> 
> Meant to mention the OSS Drivers from 4front from a while back also worked
> without clicking.

Hm, did it really work even though your device is emu20k2?  
I thought their driver supported only emu20k1.  Maybe added later.

Anyway, you can try the latest snapshot, which now includes the native
timer support on emu20k2.  It was only for emu20k1 until today.


Takashi

> On Mon, 2009-07-20 at 07:37 +0200, Takashi Iwai wrote:
> 
>     At Sun, 19 Jul 2009 19:38:59 -0500,
>     Ted T. Logan wrote:
>     > 
>     > Thanks.
>     > 
>     > Basically the driver from creative, the old one, works without clicks:
>     > 
>     > XFiDrv_Linux_US-1.18.tar.gz
>     > >From April, 2008
>     
>     Where is it available?
>     
>     > and this one works without clicks.
>     > 
>     > XFiDrv_Linux_Public_US_1.00.tar.gz
>     
>     So, do both versions work on yours?
>     What are the differences between them?
>     
>     > lspci lists it as:
>     > 03:03.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB X-Fi
>     > 
>     > and in xp, it uses the same x-fi drivers as the others.
>     > 
>     > I have never been able to get any driver you released to work with it.
>     > 
>     > Can you tell me the first driver you had that you recommend I test it with?
>     
>     GIT is the easiest way.  For example, look at the page below:
>        http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/tiwai/sound-2.6.git;a=history;f=sound/pci/ctxfi;h=91c958a7e171313fe68d728a3b4860287ad40aa7;hb=HEAD
> 
>     Takashi
>     
>     > On Sun, 2009-07-19 at 18:01 +0200, Takashi Iwai wrote:
>     > 
>     >     At Sun, 19 Jul 2009 10:35:21 -0500,
>     >     Ted T. Logan wrote:
>     >     > 
>     >     > Maybe you haven't been following the thread.  I've been trying to debug the
>     >     > problem.  As I mentioned to Takashi, there's not a point where it broke, it
>     >     > never worked with this driver.
>     >     > There have always been clicks.
>     >     > 
>     >     > However, it does not have clicks with the following driver:
>     >     > XFiDrv_Linux_Public_US_1.00.tar.gz
>     >     > 
>     >     > Sending out condescending messages like this after I was responding to the
>     >     > "testers wanted" mailer which said all cards should be supported now is
>     >     > completely unproductive.
>     >     
>     >     Well, the current situation is that I've got no other report but you
>     >     regarding the specific problem.  There is a known issue with openal,
>     >     accordingly, but not all apps.  So, this is very likely a different
>     >     issue.
>     >     
>     >     Actually, it's still the phase to gather all information to know which
>     >     part exactly is problematic.  If you find any other guys that have the
>     >     exact same problem, let me know.  It would make easier to find out a
>     >     problem pattern, either for finding out the culprit or reproducing the
>     >     problem.
>     >     
>     >     Or, you can do trial-and-error by comparing the driver above and the
>     >     current one (maybe the first committed version is easier to compare).
>     >     This can't be done without the real hardware, so it's actually up to
>     >     you how to fix the issue...
>     > 
>     >     Takashi
>     >     
>     >     > 
>     >     > On Thu, 2009-07-16 at 12:20 -0700, John L. Utz III wrote:
>     >     > 
>     >     >     Debug the problem, write code that fixes it and then send in a patch.
>     >     >     That's why this is the alsa *developers* mailing list.
>     >     >     
>     >     >     Ted T. Logan wrote:
>     >     >     > Takashi, please, what must I do to get your xfi driver to stop clicking?
>     >     >     > 
>     >     >     > On Thu, 2009-07-16 at 11:22 +0200, Takashi Iwai wrote:
>     >     >     > 
>     >     >     >> At Wed, 15 Jul 2009 12:55:23 +0200,
>     >     >     >> Frashman wrote:
>     >     >     >>> Hi Takashi,
>     >     >     >>>
>     >     >     >>> first of all, thank you for developing this driver.
>     >     >     >>> I tested it today. It works, so far.
>     >     >     >>>
>     >     >     >>> But two annoying things. As you mentioned, I got problems, if the 
>     >     >     >>> onboard sound modules are loaded. Then i get no sound out auf my xfi.
>     >     >     >> It's likely the collision of PCI device ID.
>     >     >     >> Some X-Fi models support both HD-audio and emu20kx-native modes.  The
>     >     >     >> modes are switched by some magical sequence.
>     >     >     >>
>     >     >     >> Anyway, please run alsa-info.sh with --no-upload option, and attach
>     >     >     >> the generated file.
>     >     >     >>
>     >     >     >>> If I disable the loading of snd-hda-intel modules while booting, then it 
>     >     >     >>> works.
>     >     >     >>>
>     >     >     >>> The second problem is, that SIDE and SURROUND connectors are 
>     >     >     >>> interchanged. I'm absolutly sure, it works fine under windows and the 
>     >     >     >>> connector colors are also correct.
>     >     >     >>>
>     >     >     >>> If I run speaker-test -c8 the SIDE Speakers sounds come out of my REAR 
>     >     >     >>> (SURROUND) Speakers, while nothing is coming out of my rear speakers, if 
>     >     >     >>> i'm using speaker-test -c6
>     >     >     >> So, the side channels (channel 7 & 8) and the rear channels (3 & 4)
>     >     >     >> are swapped when running with 8 channel mode?
>     >     >     >>
>     >     >     >>
>     >     >     >> Takashi
>     >     >     >> _______________________________________________
>     >     >     >> Alsa-devel mailing list
>     >     >     >> Alsa-devel@alsa-project.org
>     >     >     >> http://mailman.alsa-project.org/mailman/listinfo/alsa-devel
>     >     >     > _______________________________________________
>     >     >     > Alsa-devel mailing list
>     >     >     > Alsa-devel@alsa-project.org
>     >     >     > http://mailman.alsa-project.org/mailman/listinfo/alsa-devel
>     >     >     > 
>     >     > 
>     >     > 
>     > 
>     > 
> 
> 

Re: Testers wanted: New SB X-Fi driver

[Ted T. Logan]

upgraded to latest snapshot:

ftp://kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/tiwai/snapshot/alsa-driver-snapshot.tar.gz
just like a metronome:)

click
click
click
click
click
click
click
click




http://forums11.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/bizsupport/questionanswer.do?admit=109447626+1248160986695+28353475&threadId=1163389

that's the card I have.

On Mon, 2009-07-20 at 19:47 +0200, Takashi Iwai wrote:

> At Mon, 20 Jul 2009 12:33:24 -0500,
> Ted T. Logan wrote:
> > 
> > Sorry,
> > 
> > Meant to mention the OSS Drivers from 4front from a while back also worked
> > without clicking.
> 
> Hm, did it really work even though your device is emu20k2?  
> I thought their driver supported only emu20k1.  Maybe added later.
> 
> Anyway, you can try the latest snapshot, which now includes the native
> timer support on emu20k2.  It was only for emu20k1 until today.
> 
> 
> Takashi
> 
> > On Mon, 2009-07-20 at 07:37 +0200, Takashi Iwai wrote:
> > 
> >     At Sun, 19 Jul 2009 19:38:59 -0500,
> >     Ted T. Logan wrote:
> >     > 
> >     > Thanks.
> >     > 
> >     > Basically the driver from creative, the old one, works without clicks:
> >     > 
> >     > XFiDrv_Linux_US-1.18.tar.gz
> >     > >From April, 2008
> >     
> >     Where is it available?
> >     
> >     > and this one works without clicks.
> >     > 
> >     > XFiDrv_Linux_Public_US_1.00.tar.gz
> >     
> >     So, do both versions work on yours?
> >     What are the differences between them?
> >     
> >     > lspci lists it as:
> >     > 03:03.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB X-Fi
> >     > 
> >     > and in xp, it uses the same x-fi drivers as the others.
> >     > 
> >     > I have never been able to get any driver you released to work with it.
> >     > 
> >     > Can you tell me the first driver you had that you recommend I test it with?
> >     
> >     GIT is the easiest way.  For example, look at the page below:
> >        http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/tiwai/sound-2.6.git;a=history;f=sound/pci/ctxfi;h=91c958a7e171313fe68d728a3b4860287ad40aa7;hb=HEAD
> > 
> >     Takashi
> >     
> >     > On Sun, 2009-07-19 at 18:01 +0200, Takashi Iwai wrote:
> >     > 
> >     >     At Sun, 19 Jul 2009 10:35:21 -0500,
> >     >     Ted T. Logan wrote:
> >     >     > 
> >     >     > Maybe you haven't been following the thread.  I've been trying to debug the
> >     >     > problem.  As I mentioned to Takashi, there's not a point where it broke, it
> >     >     > never worked with this driver.
> >     >     > There have always been clicks.
> >     >     > 
> >     >     > However, it does not have clicks with the following driver:
> >     >     > XFiDrv_Linux_Public_US_1.00.tar.gz
> >     >     > 
> >     >     > Sending out condescending messages like this after I was responding to the
> >     >     > "testers wanted" mailer which said all cards should be supported now is
> >     >     > completely unproductive.
> >     >     
> >     >     Well, the current situation is that I've got no other report but you
> >     >     regarding the specific problem.  There is a known issue with openal,
> >     >     accordingly, but not all apps.  So, this is very likely a different
> >     >     issue.
> >     >     
> >     >     Actually, it's still the phase to gather all information to know which
> >     >     part exactly is problematic.  If you find any other guys that have the
> >     >     exact same problem, let me know.  It would make easier to find out a
> >     >     problem pattern, either for finding out the culprit or reproducing the
> >     >     problem.
> >     >     
> >     >     Or, you can do trial-and-error by comparing the driver above and the
> >     >     current one (maybe the first committed version is easier to compare).
> >     >     This can't be done without the real hardware, so it's actually up to
> >     >     you how to fix the issue...
> >     > 
> >     >     Takashi
> >     >     
> >     >     > 
> >     >     > On Thu, 2009-07-16 at 12:20 -0700, John L. Utz III wrote:
> >     >     > 
> >     >     >     Debug the problem, write code that fixes it and then send in a patch.
> >     >     >     That's why this is the alsa *developers* mailing list.
> >     >     >     
> >     >     >     Ted T. Logan wrote:
> >     >     >     > Takashi, please, what must I do to get your xfi driver to stop clicking?
> >     >     >     > 
> >     >     >     > On Thu, 2009-07-16 at 11:22 +0200, Takashi Iwai wrote:
> >     >     >     > 
> >     >     >     >> At Wed, 15 Jul 2009 12:55:23 +0200,
> >     >     >     >> Frashman wrote:
> >     >     >     >>> Hi Takashi,
> >     >     >     >>>
> >     >     >     >>> first of all, thank you for developing this driver.
> >     >     >     >>> I tested it today. It works, so far.
> >     >     >     >>>
> >     >     >     >>> But two annoying things. As you mentioned, I got problems, if the 
> >     >     >     >>> onboard sound modules are loaded. Then i get no sound out auf my xfi.
> >     >     >     >> It's likely the collision of PCI device ID.
> >     >     >     >> Some X-Fi models support both HD-audio and emu20kx-native modes.  The
> >     >     >     >> modes are switched by some magical sequence.
> >     >     >     >>
> >     >     >     >> Anyway, please run alsa-info.sh with --no-upload option, and attach
> >     >     >     >> the generated file.
> >     >     >     >>
> >     >     >     >>> If I disable the loading of snd-hda-intel modules while booting, then it 
> >     >     >     >>> works.
> >     >     >     >>>
> >     >     >     >>> The second problem is, that SIDE and SURROUND connectors are 
> >     >     >     >>> interchanged. I'm absolutly sure, it works fine under windows and the 
> >     >     >     >>> connector colors are also correct.
> >     >     >     >>>
> >     >     >     >>> If I run speaker-test -c8 the SIDE Speakers sounds come out of my REAR 
> >     >     >     >>> (SURROUND) Speakers, while nothing is coming out of my rear speakers, if 
> >     >     >     >>> i'm using speaker-test -c6
> >     >     >     >> So, the side channels (channel 7 & 8) and the rear channels (3 & 4)
> >     >     >     >> are swapped when running with 8 channel mode?
> >     >     >     >>
> >     >     >     >>
> >     >     >     >> Takashi
> >     >     >     >> _______________________________________________
> >     >     >     >> Alsa-devel mailing list
> >     >     >     >> Alsa-devel@alsa-project.org
> >     >     >     >> http://mailman.alsa-project.org/mailman/listinfo/alsa-devel
> >     >     >     > _______________________________________________
> >     >     >     > Alsa-devel mailing list
> >     >     >     > Alsa-devel@alsa-project.org
> >     >     >     > http://mailman.alsa-project.org/mailman/listinfo/alsa-devel
> >     >     >     > 
> >     >     > 
> >     >     > 
> >     > 
> >     > 
> > 
> > 

Re: Testers wanted: New SB X-Fi driver

[Takashi Iwai]

At Tue, 21 Jul 2009 02:23:06 -0500,
Ted T. Logan wrote:
> 
> upgraded to latest snapshot:
> 
> ftp://kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/tiwai/snapshot/
> alsa-driver-snapshot.tar.gz
> just like a metronome:)
> 
> click
> click
> click
> click
> click
> click
> click
> click

This must be a bug I recently introduced.
Now it's fixed in the latest snapshot.  Give it a try again.


Takashi

Re: Testers wanted: New SB X-Fi driver

[Takashi Iwai]

[Please don't do top-posting]

At Tue, 28 Jul 2009 14:50:10 -0500,
Ted T. Logan wrote:
> 
> Just got the latest as of today,
> 
> click
> click
> click
> click
> click
> 
> :(
> mplayer yesterday.mp3

For testing this kind of problem, use aplay and try different
--period-size and --buffer-size options.  mplayer isn't suitable for
primary testing.

If the click period doesn't change regardless of the period size
option value, it implies that the noise doesn't come from the buffer
set up but rather from other routes.  If the noise period changes with
different period size options, the click noise is a buffer setup
issue.

In addition, it'd be better to use aplay with -Dplughw to avoid the
automatic routing to PA.

Also, your description was unclear.  It it only click without other
tone, or repeated sound, or the click noise appear on the normal
playback, or what?  The repeated sound bug with emu20k2 (it didn't
appear with emu20k1) was fixed as I mentioned.  But, if it's click
noise on the normal playback, then I don't know.  Better to ask
Creative guys...


thanks,

Takashi

Re: Testers wanted: New SB X-Fi driver

[Ted T. Logan]

I just CANNOT understand this.  I disabled usb and hda-intel, updated to
latest snapshot.

with aplay, i get snaps every 1/2 second.  This blows my mind.

On Mon, 2009-07-20 at 07:37 +0200, Takashi Iwai wrote:

> At Sun, 19 Jul 2009 19:38:59 -0500,
> Ted T. Logan wrote:
> > 
> > Thanks.
> > 
> > Basically the driver from creative, the old one, works without clicks:
> > 
> > XFiDrv_Linux_US-1.18.tar.gz
> > >From April, 2008
> 
> Where is it available?
> 
> > and this one works without clicks.
> > 
> > XFiDrv_Linux_Public_US_1.00.tar.gz
> 
> So, do both versions work on yours?
> What are the differences between them?
> 
> > lspci lists it as:
> > 03:03.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB X-Fi
> > 
> > and in xp, it uses the same x-fi drivers as the others.
> > 
> > I have never been able to get any driver you released to work with it.
> > 
> > Can you tell me the first driver you had that you recommend I test it with?
> 
> GIT is the easiest way.  For example, look at the page below:
>    http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/tiwai/sound-2.6.git;a=history;f=sound/pci/ctxfi;h=91c958a7e171313fe68d728a3b4860287ad40aa7;hb=HEAD
> 
> 
> Takashi
> 
> > On Sun, 2009-07-19 at 18:01 +0200, Takashi Iwai wrote:
> > 
> >     At Sun, 19 Jul 2009 10:35:21 -0500,
> >     Ted T. Logan wrote:
> >     > 
> >     > Maybe you haven't been following the thread.  I've been trying to debug the
> >     > problem.  As I mentioned to Takashi, there's not a point where it broke, it
> >     > never worked with this driver.
> >     > There have always been clicks.
> >     > 
> >     > However, it does not have clicks with the following driver:
> >     > XFiDrv_Linux_Public_US_1.00.tar.gz
> >     > 
> >     > Sending out condescending messages like this after I was responding to the
> >     > "testers wanted" mailer which said all cards should be supported now is
> >     > completely unproductive.
> >     
> >     Well, the current situation is that I've got no other report but you
> >     regarding the specific problem.  There is a known issue with openal,
> >     accordingly, but not all apps.  So, this is very likely a different
> >     issue.
> >     
> >     Actually, it's still the phase to gather all information to know which
> >     part exactly is problematic.  If you find any other guys that have the
> >     exact same problem, let me know.  It would make easier to find out a
> >     problem pattern, either for finding out the culprit or reproducing the
> >     problem.
> >     
> >     Or, you can do trial-and-error by comparing the driver above and the
> >     current one (maybe the first committed version is easier to compare).
> >     This can't be done without the real hardware, so it's actually up to
> >     you how to fix the issue...
> > 
> >     Takashi
> >     
> >     > 
> >     > On Thu, 2009-07-16 at 12:20 -0700, John L. Utz III wrote:
> >     > 
> >     >     Debug the problem, write code that fixes it and then send in a patch.
> >     >     That's why this is the alsa *developers* mailing list.
> >     >     
> >     >     Ted T. Logan wrote:
> >     >     > Takashi, please, what must I do to get your xfi driver to stop clicking?
> >     >     > 
> >     >     > On Thu, 2009-07-16 at 11:22 +0200, Takashi Iwai wrote:
> >     >     > 
> >     >     >> At Wed, 15 Jul 2009 12:55:23 +0200,
> >     >     >> Frashman wrote:
> >     >     >>> Hi Takashi,
> >     >     >>>
> >     >     >>> first of all, thank you for developing this driver.
> >     >     >>> I tested it today. It works, so far.
> >     >     >>>
> >     >     >>> But two annoying things. As you mentioned, I got problems, if the 
> >     >     >>> onboard sound modules are loaded. Then i get no sound out auf my xfi.
> >     >     >> It's likely the collision of PCI device ID.
> >     >     >> Some X-Fi models support both HD-audio and emu20kx-native modes.  The
> >     >     >> modes are switched by some magical sequence.
> >     >     >>
> >     >     >> Anyway, please run alsa-info.sh with --no-upload option, and attach
> >     >     >> the generated file.
> >     >     >>
> >     >     >>> If I disable the loading of snd-hda-intel modules while booting, then it 
> >     >     >>> works.
> >     >     >>>
> >     >     >>> The second problem is, that SIDE and SURROUND connectors are 
> >     >     >>> interchanged. I'm absolutly sure, it works fine under windows and the 
> >     >     >>> connector colors are also correct.
> >     >     >>>
> >     >     >>> If I run speaker-test -c8 the SIDE Speakers sounds come out of my REAR 
> >     >     >>> (SURROUND) Speakers, while nothing is coming out of my rear speakers, if 
> >     >     >>> i'm using speaker-test -c6
> >     >     >> So, the side channels (channel 7 & 8) and the rear channels (3 & 4)
> >     >     >> are swapped when running with 8 channel mode?
> >     >     >>
> >     >     >>
> >     >     >> Takashi
> >     >     >> _______________________________________________
> >     >     >> Alsa-devel mailing list
> >     >     >> Alsa-devel@alsa-project.org
> >     >     >> http://mailman.alsa-project.org/mailman/listinfo/alsa-devel
> >     >     > _______________________________________________
> >     >     > Alsa-devel mailing list
> >     >     > Alsa-devel@alsa-project.org
> >     >     > http://mailman.alsa-project.org/mailman/listinfo/alsa-devel
> >     >     > 
> >     > 
> >     > 
> > 
> > 

Re: Testers wanted: New SB X-Fi driver - POC for creative?

[Ted T. Logan]

Takashi,

The latest snapshot has the same clicking/snapping.  Can you give me
your POC for creative?  I just cannot figure out why their driver works
fine and the alsa ones do not.
XFiDrv_Linux_Public_US_1.00.tar.gz


On Wed, 2009-08-05 at 04:31 -0500, Ted T. Logan wrote:

> I just CANNOT understand this.  I disabled usb and hda-intel, updated
> to latest snapshot.
> 
> with aplay, i get snaps every 1/2 second.  This blows my mind.
> 
> On Mon, 2009-07-20 at 07:37 +0200, Takashi Iwai wrote: 
> 
> > At Sun, 19 Jul 2009 19:38:59 -0500,
> > Ted T. Logan wrote:
> > > 
> > > Thanks.
> > > 
> > > Basically the driver from creative, the old one, works without clicks:
> > > 
> > > XFiDrv_Linux_US-1.18.tar.gz
> > > >From April, 2008
> > 
> > Where is it available?
> > 
> > > and this one works without clicks.
> > > 
> > > XFiDrv_Linux_Public_US_1.00.tar.gz
> > 
> > So, do both versions work on yours?
> > What are the differences between them?
> > 
> > > lspci lists it as:
> > > 03:03.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB X-Fi
> > > 
> > > and in xp, it uses the same x-fi drivers as the others.
> > > 
> > > I have never been able to get any driver you released to work with it.
> > > 
> > > Can you tell me the first driver you had that you recommend I test it with?
> > 
> > GIT is the easiest way.  For example, look at the page below:
> >    http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/tiwai/sound-2.6.git;a=history;f=sound/pci/ctxfi;h=91c958a7e171313fe68d728a3b4860287ad40aa7;hb=HEAD
> > 
> > 
> > Takashi
> > 
> > > On Sun, 2009-07-19 at 18:01 +0200, Takashi Iwai wrote:
> > > 
> > >     At Sun, 19 Jul 2009 10:35:21 -0500,
> > >     Ted T. Logan wrote:
> > >     > 
> > >     > Maybe you haven't been following the thread.  I've been trying to debug the
> > >     > problem.  As I mentioned to Takashi, there's not a point where it broke, it
> > >     > never worked with this driver.
> > >     > There have always been clicks.
> > >     > 
> > >     > However, it does not have clicks with the following driver:
> > >     > XFiDrv_Linux_Public_US_1.00.tar.gz
> > >     > 
> > >     > Sending out condescending messages like this after I was responding to the
> > >     > "testers wanted" mailer which said all cards should be supported now is
> > >     > completely unproductive.
> > >     
> > >     Well, the current situation is that I've got no other report but you
> > >     regarding the specific problem.  There is a known issue with openal,
> > >     accordingly, but not all apps.  So, this is very likely a different
> > >     issue.
> > >     
> > >     Actually, it's still the phase to gather all information to know which
> > >     part exactly is problematic.  If you find any other guys that have the
> > >     exact same problem, let me know.  It would make easier to find out a
> > >     problem pattern, either for finding out the culprit or reproducing the
> > >     problem.
> > >     
> > >     Or, you can do trial-and-error by comparing the driver above and the
> > >     current one (maybe the first committed version is easier to compare).
> > >     This can't be done without the real hardware, so it's actually up to
> > >     you how to fix the issue...
> > > 
> > >     Takashi
> > >     
> > >     > 
> > >     > On Thu, 2009-07-16 at 12:20 -0700, John L. Utz III wrote:
> > >     > 
> > >     >     Debug the problem, write code that fixes it and then send in a patch.
> > >     >     That's why this is the alsa *developers* mailing list.
> > >     >     
> > >     >     Ted T. Logan wrote:
> > >     >     > Takashi, please, what must I do to get your xfi driver to stop clicking?
> > >     >     > 
> > >     >     > On Thu, 2009-07-16 at 11:22 +0200, Takashi Iwai wrote:
> > >     >     > 
> > >     >     >> At Wed, 15 Jul 2009 12:55:23 +0200,
> > >     >     >> Frashman wrote:
> > >     >     >>> Hi Takashi,
> > >     >     >>>
> > >     >     >>> first of all, thank you for developing this driver.
> > >     >     >>> I tested it today. It works, so far.
> > >     >     >>>
> > >     >     >>> But two annoying things. As you mentioned, I got problems, if the 
> > >     >     >>> onboard sound modules are loaded. Then i get no sound out auf my xfi.
> > >     >     >> It's likely the collision of PCI device ID.
> > >     >     >> Some X-Fi models support both HD-audio and emu20kx-native modes.  The
> > >     >     >> modes are switched by some magical sequence.
> > >     >     >>
> > >     >     >> Anyway, please run alsa-info.sh with --no-upload option, and attach
> > >     >     >> the generated file.
> > >     >     >>
> > >     >     >>> If I disable the loading of snd-hda-intel modules while booting, then it 
> > >     >     >>> works.
> > >     >     >>>
> > >     >     >>> The second problem is, that SIDE and SURROUND connectors are 
> > >     >     >>> interchanged. I'm absolutly sure, it works fine under windows and the 
> > >     >     >>> connector colors are also correct.
> > >     >     >>>
> > >     >     >>> If I run speaker-test -c8 the SIDE Speakers sounds come out of my REAR 
> > >     >     >>> (SURROUND) Speakers, while nothing is coming out of my rear speakers, if 
> > >     >     >>> i'm using speaker-test -c6
> > >     >     >> So, the side channels (channel 7 & 8) and the rear channels (3 & 4)
> > >     >     >> are swapped when running with 8 channel mode?
> > >     >     >>
> > >     >     >>
> > >     >     >> Takashi
> > >     >     >> _______________________________________________
> > >     >     >> Alsa-devel mailing list
> > >     >     >> Alsa-devel@alsa-project.org
> > >     >     >> http://mailman.alsa-project.org/mailman/listinfo/alsa-devel
> > >     >     > _______________________________________________
> > >     >     > Alsa-devel mailing list
> > >     >     > Alsa-devel@alsa-project.org
> > >     >     > http://mailman.alsa-project.org/mailman/listinfo/alsa-devel
> > >     >     > 
> > >     > 
> > >     > 
> > > 
> > > 

Re: Testers wanted: New SB X-Fi driver - POC for creative?

[Takashi Iwai]

At Wed, 05 Aug 2009 13:17:31 -0500,
Ted T. Logan wrote:
> 
> Takashi,
> 
> The latest snapshot has the same clicking/snapping.  Can you give me your POC
> for creative? 

Well, it's found in GIT changelog publicly as already mentioned.
Here it is.

    Signed-off-by: Wai Yew CHAY <wychay@ctl.creative.com>
    Singed-off-by: Ryan RICHARDS <ryan_richards@creativelabs.com>


Takashi

Re: Testers wanted: New SB X-Fi driver - POC for creative?

[Ted T. Logan]

No response from either:(  Any other POCs?

On Thu, 2009-08-06 at 08:13 +0200, Takashi Iwai wrote:

> At Wed, 05 Aug 2009 13:17:31 -0500,
> Ted T. Logan wrote:
> > 
> > Takashi,
> > 
> > The latest snapshot has the same clicking/snapping.  Can you give me your POC
> > for creative? 
> 
> Well, it's found in GIT changelog publicly as already mentioned.
> Here it is.
> 
>     Signed-off-by: Wai Yew CHAY <wychay@ctl.creative.com>
>     Singed-off-by: Ryan RICHARDS <ryan_richards@creativelabs.com>
> 
> 
> Takashi

Re: Testers wanted: New SB X-Fi driver

[Ted T. Logan]

Takashi,

Fwiw, I reinstalled my kernel to get the old alsa modules back
Linux home 2.6.29.5-191.fc11.i586 #1 SMP Tue Jun 16 23:11:39 EDT 2009
i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux

and reinstalled this driver:
XFiDrv_Linux_Public_US_1.00

and I am able to use my xfi again without clicks.  Unfortunately, this
driver seems to be no longer developed and has some other issues such as
with skype and pulseaudio.  I'd REALLY prefer to use your driver but I'm
not quite sure what to do.



On Sun, 2009-07-19 at 18:01 +0200, Takashi Iwai wrote:

> At Sun, 19 Jul 2009 10:35:21 -0500,
> Ted T. Logan wrote:
> > 
> > Maybe you haven't been following the thread.  I've been trying to debug the
> > problem.  As I mentioned to Takashi, there's not a point where it broke, it
> > never worked with this driver.
> > There have always been clicks.
> > 
> > However, it does not have clicks with the following driver:
> > XFiDrv_Linux_Public_US_1.00.tar.gz
> > 
> > Sending out condescending messages like this after I was responding to the
> > "testers wanted" mailer which said all cards should be supported now is
> > completely unproductive.
> 
> Well, the current situation is that I've got no other report but you
> regarding the specific problem.  There is a known issue with openal,
> accordingly, but not all apps.  So, this is very likely a different
> issue.
> 
> Actually, it's still the phase to gather all information to know which
> part exactly is problematic.  If you find any other guys that have the
> exact same problem, let me know.  It would make easier to find out a
> problem pattern, either for finding out the culprit or reproducing the
> problem.
> 
> Or, you can do trial-and-error by comparing the driver above and the
> current one (maybe the first committed version is easier to compare).
> This can't be done without the real hardware, so it's actually up to
> you how to fix the issue...
> 
> 
> Takashi
> 
> > 
> > On Thu, 2009-07-16 at 12:20 -0700, John L. Utz III wrote:
> > 
> >     Debug the problem, write code that fixes it and then send in a patch.
> >     That's why this is the alsa *developers* mailing list.
> >     
> >     Ted T. Logan wrote:
> >     > Takashi, please, what must I do to get your xfi driver to stop clicking?
> >     > 
> >     > On Thu, 2009-07-16 at 11:22 +0200, Takashi Iwai wrote:
> >     > 
> >     >> At Wed, 15 Jul 2009 12:55:23 +0200,
> >     >> Frashman wrote:
> >     >>> Hi Takashi,
> >     >>>
> >     >>> first of all, thank you for developing this driver.
> >     >>> I tested it today. It works, so far.
> >     >>>
> >     >>> But two annoying things. As you mentioned, I got problems, if the 
> >     >>> onboard sound modules are loaded. Then i get no sound out auf my xfi.
> >     >> It's likely the collision of PCI device ID.
> >     >> Some X-Fi models support both HD-audio and emu20kx-native modes.  The
> >     >> modes are switched by some magical sequence.
> >     >>
> >     >> Anyway, please run alsa-info.sh with --no-upload option, and attach
> >     >> the generated file.
> >     >>
> >     >>> If I disable the loading of snd-hda-intel modules while booting, then it 
> >     >>> works.
> >     >>>
> >     >>> The second problem is, that SIDE and SURROUND connectors are 
> >     >>> interchanged. I'm absolutly sure, it works fine under windows and the 
> >     >>> connector colors are also correct.
> >     >>>
> >     >>> If I run speaker-test -c8 the SIDE Speakers sounds come out of my REAR 
> >     >>> (SURROUND) Speakers, while nothing is coming out of my rear speakers, if 
> >     >>> i'm using speaker-test -c6
> >     >> So, the side channels (channel 7 & 8) and the rear channels (3 & 4)
> >     >> are swapped when running with 8 channel mode?
> >     >>
> >     >>
> >     >> Takashi
> >     >> _______________________________________________
> >     >> Alsa-devel mailing list
> >     >> Alsa-devel@alsa-project.org
> >     >> http://mailman.alsa-project.org/mailman/listinfo/alsa-devel
> >     > _______________________________________________
> >     > Alsa-devel mailing list
> >     > Alsa-devel@alsa-project.org
> >     > http://mailman.alsa-project.org/mailman/listinfo/alsa-devel
> >     > 
> > 
> > 

Re: Testers wanted: New SB X-Fi driver

[Takashi Iwai]

At Wed, 22 Jul 2009 12:53:49 -0500,
Ted T. Logan wrote:
> 
> Takashi,
> 
> Fwiw, I reinstalled my kernel to get the old alsa modules back
> Linux home 2.6.29.5-191.fc11.i586 #1 SMP Tue Jun 16 23:11:39 EDT 2009 i686
> i686 i386 GNU/Linux
> 
> and reinstalled this driver:
> XFiDrv_Linux_Public_US_1.00
> 
> and I am able to use my xfi again without clicks.  Unfortunately, this driver
> seems to be no longer developed and has some other issues such as with skype
> and pulseaudio.  I'd REALLY prefer to use your driver but I'm not quite sure
> what to do.

Then you should  contact with Creative guys.
They provided the driver after all.
The addresses can be obtained in GIT changelog.


Takashi

> 
> On Sun, 2009-07-19 at 18:01 +0200, Takashi Iwai wrote:
> 
>     At Sun, 19 Jul 2009 10:35:21 -0500,
>     Ted T. Logan wrote:
>     > 
>     > Maybe you haven't been following the thread.  I've been trying to debug the
>     > problem.  As I mentioned to Takashi, there's not a point where it broke, it
>     > never worked with this driver.
>     > There have always been clicks.
>     > 
>     > However, it does not have clicks with the following driver:
>     > XFiDrv_Linux_Public_US_1.00.tar.gz
>     > 
>     > Sending out condescending messages like this after I was responding to the
>     > "testers wanted" mailer which said all cards should be supported now is
>     > completely unproductive.
>     
>     Well, the current situation is that I've got no other report but you
>     regarding the specific problem.  There is a known issue with openal,
>     accordingly, but not all apps.  So, this is very likely a different
>     issue.
>     
>     Actually, it's still the phase to gather all information to know which
>     part exactly is problematic.  If you find any other guys that have the
>     exact same problem, let me know.  It would make easier to find out a
>     problem pattern, either for finding out the culprit or reproducing the
>     problem.
>     
>     Or, you can do trial-and-error by comparing the driver above and the
>     current one (maybe the first committed version is easier to compare).
>     This can't be done without the real hardware, so it's actually up to
>     you how to fix the issue...
> 
>     Takashi
>     
>     > 
>     > On Thu, 2009-07-16 at 12:20 -0700, John L. Utz III wrote:
>     > 
>     >     Debug the problem, write code that fixes it and then send in a patch.
>     >     That's why this is the alsa *developers* mailing list.
>     >     
>     >     Ted T. Logan wrote:
>     >     > Takashi, please, what must I do to get your xfi driver to stop clicking?
>     >     > 
>     >     > On Thu, 2009-07-16 at 11:22 +0200, Takashi Iwai wrote:
>     >     > 
>     >     >> At Wed, 15 Jul 2009 12:55:23 +0200,
>     >     >> Frashman wrote:
>     >     >>> Hi Takashi,
>     >     >>>
>     >     >>> first of all, thank you for developing this driver.
>     >     >>> I tested it today. It works, so far.
>     >     >>>
>     >     >>> But two annoying things. As you mentioned, I got problems, if the 
>     >     >>> onboard sound modules are loaded. Then i get no sound out auf my xfi.
>     >     >> It's likely the collision of PCI device ID.
>     >     >> Some X-Fi models support both HD-audio and emu20kx-native modes.  The
>     >     >> modes are switched by some magical sequence.
>     >     >>
>     >     >> Anyway, please run alsa-info.sh with --no-upload option, and attach
>     >     >> the generated file.
>     >     >>
>     >     >>> If I disable the loading of snd-hda-intel modules while booting, then it 
>     >     >>> works.
>     >     >>>
>     >     >>> The second problem is, that SIDE and SURROUND connectors are 
>     >     >>> interchanged. I'm absolutly sure, it works fine under windows and the 
>     >     >>> connector colors are also correct.
>     >     >>>
>     >     >>> If I run speaker-test -c8 the SIDE Speakers sounds come out of my REAR 
>     >     >>> (SURROUND) Speakers, while nothing is coming out of my rear speakers, if 
>     >     >>> i'm using speaker-test -c6
>     >     >> So, the side channels (channel 7 & 8) and the rear channels (3 & 4)
>     >     >> are swapped when running with 8 channel mode?
>     >     >>
>     >     >>
>     >     >> Takashi
>     >     >> _______________________________________________
>     >     >> Alsa-devel mailing list
>     >     >> Alsa-devel@alsa-project.org
>     >     >> http://mailman.alsa-project.org/mailman/listinfo/alsa-devel
>     >     > _______________________________________________
>     >     > Alsa-devel mailing list
>     >     > Alsa-devel@alsa-project.org
>     >     > http://mailman.alsa-project.org/mailman/listinfo/alsa-devel
>     >     > 
>     > 
>     > 
> 
> 

Re: Testers wanted: New SB X-Fi driver

[Ted T. Logan]

I should contact the creative guys about using your driver?

On Wed, 2009-07-22 at 21:33 +0200, Takashi Iwai wrote:

> At Wed, 22 Jul 2009 12:53:49 -0500,
> Ted T. Logan wrote:
> > 
> > Takashi,
> > 
> > Fwiw, I reinstalled my kernel to get the old alsa modules back
> > Linux home 2.6.29.5-191.fc11.i586 #1 SMP Tue Jun 16 23:11:39 EDT 2009 i686
> > i686 i386 GNU/Linux
> > 
> > and reinstalled this driver:
> > XFiDrv_Linux_Public_US_1.00
> > 
> > and I am able to use my xfi again without clicks.  Unfortunately, this driver
> > seems to be no longer developed and has some other issues such as with skype
> > and pulseaudio.  I'd REALLY prefer to use your driver but I'm not quite sure
> > what to do.
> 
> Then you should  contact with Creative guys.
> They provided the driver after all.
> The addresses can be obtained in GIT changelog.
> 
> 
> Takashi
> 
> > 
> > On Sun, 2009-07-19 at 18:01 +0200, Takashi Iwai wrote:
> > 
> >     At Sun, 19 Jul 2009 10:35:21 -0500,
> >     Ted T. Logan wrote:
> >     > 
> >     > Maybe you haven't been following the thread.  I've been trying to debug the
> >     > problem.  As I mentioned to Takashi, there's not a point where it broke, it
> >     > never worked with this driver.
> >     > There have always been clicks.
> >     > 
> >     > However, it does not have clicks with the following driver:
> >     > XFiDrv_Linux_Public_US_1.00.tar.gz
> >     > 
> >     > Sending out condescending messages like this after I was responding to the
> >     > "testers wanted" mailer which said all cards should be supported now is
> >     > completely unproductive.
> >     
> >     Well, the current situation is that I've got no other report but you
> >     regarding the specific problem.  There is a known issue with openal,
> >     accordingly, but not all apps.  So, this is very likely a different
> >     issue.
> >     
> >     Actually, it's still the phase to gather all information to know which
> >     part exactly is problematic.  If you find any other guys that have the
> >     exact same problem, let me know.  It would make easier to find out a
> >     problem pattern, either for finding out the culprit or reproducing the
> >     problem.
> >     
> >     Or, you can do trial-and-error by comparing the driver above and the
> >     current one (maybe the first committed version is easier to compare).
> >     This can't be done without the real hardware, so it's actually up to
> >     you how to fix the issue...
> > 
> >     Takashi
> >     
> >     > 
> >     > On Thu, 2009-07-16 at 12:20 -0700, John L. Utz III wrote:
> >     > 
> >     >     Debug the problem, write code that fixes it and then send in a patch.
> >     >     That's why this is the alsa *developers* mailing list.
> >     >     
> >     >     Ted T. Logan wrote:
> >     >     > Takashi, please, what must I do to get your xfi driver to stop clicking?
> >     >     > 
> >     >     > On Thu, 2009-07-16 at 11:22 +0200, Takashi Iwai wrote:
> >     >     > 
> >     >     >> At Wed, 15 Jul 2009 12:55:23 +0200,
> >     >     >> Frashman wrote:
> >     >     >>> Hi Takashi,
> >     >     >>>
> >     >     >>> first of all, thank you for developing this driver.
> >     >     >>> I tested it today. It works, so far.
> >     >     >>>
> >     >     >>> But two annoying things. As you mentioned, I got problems, if the 
> >     >     >>> onboard sound modules are loaded. Then i get no sound out auf my xfi.
> >     >     >> It's likely the collision of PCI device ID.
> >     >     >> Some X-Fi models support both HD-audio and emu20kx-native modes.  The
> >     >     >> modes are switched by some magical sequence.
> >     >     >>
> >     >     >> Anyway, please run alsa-info.sh with --no-upload option, and attach
> >     >     >> the generated file.
> >     >     >>
> >     >     >>> If I disable the loading of snd-hda-intel modules while booting, then it 
> >     >     >>> works.
> >     >     >>>
> >     >     >>> The second problem is, that SIDE and SURROUND connectors are 
> >     >     >>> interchanged. I'm absolutly sure, it works fine under windows and the 
> >     >     >>> connector colors are also correct.
> >     >     >>>
> >     >     >>> If I run speaker-test -c8 the SIDE Speakers sounds come out of my REAR 
> >     >     >>> (SURROUND) Speakers, while nothing is coming out of my rear speakers, if 
> >     >     >>> i'm using speaker-test -c6
> >     >     >> So, the side channels (channel 7 & 8) and the rear channels (3 & 4)
> >     >     >> are swapped when running with 8 channel mode?
> >     >     >>
> >     >     >>
> >     >     >> Takashi
> >     >     >> _______________________________________________
> >     >     >> Alsa-devel mailing list
> >     >     >> Alsa-devel@alsa-project.org
> >     >     >> http://mailman.alsa-project.org/mailman/listinfo/alsa-devel
> >     >     > _______________________________________________
> >     >     > Alsa-devel mailing list
> >     >     > Alsa-devel@alsa-project.org
> >     >     > http://mailman.alsa-project.org/mailman/listinfo/alsa-devel
> >     >     > 
> >     > 
> >     > 
> > 
> > 

Re: Testers wanted: New SB X-Fi driver

[Takashi Iwai]

At Wed, 22 Jul 2009 14:40:25 -0500,
Ted T. Logan wrote:
> 
> I should contact the creative guys about using your driver?

This isn't *my* driver at all.
The driver code is originally given by Creative guys.


Takashi

> 
> On Wed, 2009-07-22 at 21:33 +0200, Takashi Iwai wrote:
> 
>     At Wed, 22 Jul 2009 12:53:49 -0500,
>     Ted T. Logan wrote:
>     > 
>     > Takashi,
>     > 
>     > Fwiw, I reinstalled my kernel to get the old alsa modules back
>     > Linux home 2.6.29.5-191.fc11.i586 #1 SMP Tue Jun 16 23:11:39 EDT 2009 i686
>     > i686 i386 GNU/Linux
>     > 
>     > and reinstalled this driver:
>     > XFiDrv_Linux_Public_US_1.00
>     > 
>     > and I am able to use my xfi again without clicks.  Unfortunately, this driver
>     > seems to be no longer developed and has some other issues such as with skype
>     > and pulseaudio.  I'd REALLY prefer to use your driver but I'm not quite sure
>     > what to do.
>     
>     Then you should  contact with Creative guys.
>     They provided the driver after all.
>     The addresses can be obtained in GIT changelog.
> 
>     Takashi
>     
>     > 
>     > On Sun, 2009-07-19 at 18:01 +0200, Takashi Iwai wrote:
>     > 
>     >     At Sun, 19 Jul 2009 10:35:21 -0500,
>     >     Ted T. Logan wrote:
>     >     > 
>     >     > Maybe you haven't been following the thread.  I've been trying to debug the
>     >     > problem.  As I mentioned to Takashi, there's not a point where it broke, it
>     >     > never worked with this driver.
>     >     > There have always been clicks.
>     >     > 
>     >     > However, it does not have clicks with the following driver:
>     >     > XFiDrv_Linux_Public_US_1.00.tar.gz
>     >     > 
>     >     > Sending out condescending messages like this after I was responding to the
>     >     > "testers wanted" mailer which said all cards should be supported now is
>     >     > completely unproductive.
>     >     
>     >     Well, the current situation is that I've got no other report but you
>     >     regarding the specific problem.  There is a known issue with openal,
>     >     accordingly, but not all apps.  So, this is very likely a different
>     >     issue.
>     >     
>     >     Actually, it's still the phase to gather all information to know which
>     >     part exactly is problematic.  If you find any other guys that have the
>     >     exact same problem, let me know.  It would make easier to find out a
>     >     problem pattern, either for finding out the culprit or reproducing the
>     >     problem.
>     >     
>     >     Or, you can do trial-and-error by comparing the driver above and the
>     >     current one (maybe the first committed version is easier to compare).
>     >     This can't be done without the real hardware, so it's actually up to
>     >     you how to fix the issue...
>     > 
>     >     Takashi
>     >     
>     >     > 
>     >     > On Thu, 2009-07-16 at 12:20 -0700, John L. Utz III wrote:
>     >     > 
>     >     >     Debug the problem, write code that fixes it and then send in a patch.
>     >     >     That's why this is the alsa *developers* mailing list.
>     >     >     
>     >     >     Ted T. Logan wrote:
>     >     >     > Takashi, please, what must I do to get your xfi driver to stop clicking?
>     >     >     > 
>     >     >     > On Thu, 2009-07-16 at 11:22 +0200, Takashi Iwai wrote:
>     >     >     > 
>     >     >     >> At Wed, 15 Jul 2009 12:55:23 +0200,
>     >     >     >> Frashman wrote:
>     >     >     >>> Hi Takashi,
>     >     >     >>>
>     >     >     >>> first of all, thank you for developing this driver.
>     >     >     >>> I tested it today. It works, so far.
>     >     >     >>>
>     >     >     >>> But two annoying things. As you mentioned, I got problems, if the 
>     >     >     >>> onboard sound modules are loaded. Then i get no sound out auf my xfi.
>     >     >     >> It's likely the collision of PCI device ID.
>     >     >     >> Some X-Fi models support both HD-audio and emu20kx-native modes.  The
>     >     >     >> modes are switched by some magical sequence.
>     >     >     >>
>     >     >     >> Anyway, please run alsa-info.sh with --no-upload option, and attach
>     >     >     >> the generated file.
>     >     >     >>
>     >     >     >>> If I disable the loading of snd-hda-intel modules while booting, then it 
>     >     >     >>> works.
>     >     >     >>>
>     >     >     >>> The second problem is, that SIDE and SURROUND connectors are 
>     >     >     >>> interchanged. I'm absolutly sure, it works fine under windows and the 
>     >     >     >>> connector colors are also correct.
>     >     >     >>>
>     >     >     >>> If I run speaker-test -c8 the SIDE Speakers sounds come out of my REAR 
>     >     >     >>> (SURROUND) Speakers, while nothing is coming out of my rear speakers, if 
>     >     >     >>> i'm using speaker-test -c6
>     >     >     >> So, the side channels (channel 7 & 8) and the rear channels (3 & 4)
>     >     >     >> are swapped when running with 8 channel mode?
>     >     >     >>
>     >     >     >>
>     >     >     >> Takashi
>     >     >     >> _______________________________________________
>     >     >     >> Alsa-devel mailing list
>     >     >     >> Alsa-devel@alsa-project.org
>     >     >     >> http://mailman.alsa-project.org/mailman/listinfo/alsa-devel
>     >     >     > _______________________________________________
>     >     >     > Alsa-devel mailing list
>     >     >     > Alsa-devel@alsa-project.org
>     >     >     > http://mailman.alsa-project.org/mailman/listinfo/alsa-devel
>     >     >     > 
>     >     > 
>     >     > 
>     > 
>     > 
> 
> 

Re: Testers wanted: New SB X-Fi driver

[Ted T. Logan]

Ah ok, sorry.

I just know that, from what I can see, there are no plans for them to
develop the driver anymore and was looking for something for the future,
that's why I'm hoping to get my card working with your driver. Also, I
get no sound at all with your driver when I tell it to do surround.

On Thu, 2009-07-23 at 07:30 +0200, Takashi Iwai wrote:

> At Wed, 22 Jul 2009 14:40:25 -0500,
> Ted T. Logan wrote:
> > 
> > I should contact the creative guys about using your driver?
> 
> This isn't *my* driver at all.
> The driver code is originally given by Creative guys.
> 
> 
> Takashi
> 
> > 
> > On Wed, 2009-07-22 at 21:33 +0200, Takashi Iwai wrote:
> > 
> >     At Wed, 22 Jul 2009 12:53:49 -0500,
> >     Ted T. Logan wrote:
> >     > 
> >     > Takashi,
> >     > 
> >     > Fwiw, I reinstalled my kernel to get the old alsa modules back
> >     > Linux home 2.6.29.5-191.fc11.i586 #1 SMP Tue Jun 16 23:11:39 EDT 2009 i686
> >     > i686 i386 GNU/Linux
> >     > 
> >     > and reinstalled this driver:
> >     > XFiDrv_Linux_Public_US_1.00
> >     > 
> >     > and I am able to use my xfi again without clicks.  Unfortunately, this driver
> >     > seems to be no longer developed and has some other issues such as with skype
> >     > and pulseaudio.  I'd REALLY prefer to use your driver but I'm not quite sure
> >     > what to do.
> >     
> >     Then you should  contact with Creative guys.
> >     They provided the driver after all.
> >     The addresses can be obtained in GIT changelog.
> > 
> >     Takashi
> >     
> >     > 
> >     > On Sun, 2009-07-19 at 18:01 +0200, Takashi Iwai wrote:
> >     > 
> >     >     At Sun, 19 Jul 2009 10:35:21 -0500,
> >     >     Ted T. Logan wrote:
> >     >     > 
> >     >     > Maybe you haven't been following the thread.  I've been trying to debug the
> >     >     > problem.  As I mentioned to Takashi, there's not a point where it broke, it
> >     >     > never worked with this driver.
> >     >     > There have always been clicks.
> >     >     > 
> >     >     > However, it does not have clicks with the following driver:
> >     >     > XFiDrv_Linux_Public_US_1.00.tar.gz
> >     >     > 
> >     >     > Sending out condescending messages like this after I was responding to the
> >     >     > "testers wanted" mailer which said all cards should be supported now is
> >     >     > completely unproductive.
> >     >     
> >     >     Well, the current situation is that I've got no other report but you
> >     >     regarding the specific problem.  There is a known issue with openal,
> >     >     accordingly, but not all apps.  So, this is very likely a different
> >     >     issue.
> >     >     
> >     >     Actually, it's still the phase to gather all information to know which
> >     >     part exactly is problematic.  If you find any other guys that have the
> >     >     exact same problem, let me know.  It would make easier to find out a
> >     >     problem pattern, either for finding out the culprit or reproducing the
> >     >     problem.
> >     >     
> >     >     Or, you can do trial-and-error by comparing the driver above and the
> >     >     current one (maybe the first committed version is easier to compare).
> >     >     This can't be done without the real hardware, so it's actually up to
> >     >     you how to fix the issue...
> >     > 
> >     >     Takashi
> >     >     
> >     >     > 
> >     >     > On Thu, 2009-07-16 at 12:20 -0700, John L. Utz III wrote:
> >     >     > 
> >     >     >     Debug the problem, write code that fixes it and then send in a patch.
> >     >     >     That's why this is the alsa *developers* mailing list.
> >     >     >     
> >     >     >     Ted T. Logan wrote:
> >     >     >     > Takashi, please, what must I do to get your xfi driver to stop clicking?
> >     >     >     > 
> >     >     >     > On Thu, 2009-07-16 at 11:22 +0200, Takashi Iwai wrote:
> >     >     >     > 
> >     >     >     >> At Wed, 15 Jul 2009 12:55:23 +0200,
> >     >     >     >> Frashman wrote:
> >     >     >     >>> Hi Takashi,
> >     >     >     >>>
> >     >     >     >>> first of all, thank you for developing this driver.
> >     >     >     >>> I tested it today. It works, so far.
> >     >     >     >>>
> >     >     >     >>> But two annoying things. As you mentioned, I got problems, if the 
> >     >     >     >>> onboard sound modules are loaded. Then i get no sound out auf my xfi.
> >     >     >     >> It's likely the collision of PCI device ID.
> >     >     >     >> Some X-Fi models support both HD-audio and emu20kx-native modes.  The
> >     >     >     >> modes are switched by some magical sequence.
> >     >     >     >>
> >     >     >     >> Anyway, please run alsa-info.sh with --no-upload option, and attach
> >     >     >     >> the generated file.
> >     >     >     >>
> >     >     >     >>> If I disable the loading of snd-hda-intel modules while booting, then it 
> >     >     >     >>> works.
> >     >     >     >>>
> >     >     >     >>> The second problem is, that SIDE and SURROUND connectors are 
> >     >     >     >>> interchanged. I'm absolutly sure, it works fine under windows and the 
> >     >     >     >>> connector colors are also correct.
> >     >     >     >>>
> >     >     >     >>> If I run speaker-test -c8 the SIDE Speakers sounds come out of my REAR 
> >     >     >     >>> (SURROUND) Speakers, while nothing is coming out of my rear speakers, if 
> >     >     >     >>> i'm using speaker-test -c6
> >     >     >     >> So, the side channels (channel 7 & 8) and the rear channels (3 & 4)
> >     >     >     >> are swapped when running with 8 channel mode?
> >     >     >     >>
> >     >     >     >>
> >     >     >     >> Takashi
> >     >     >     >> _______________________________________________
> >     >     >     >> Alsa-devel mailing list
> >     >     >     >> Alsa-devel@alsa-project.org
> >     >     >     >> http://mailman.alsa-project.org/mailman/listinfo/alsa-devel
> >     >     >     > _______________________________________________
> >     >     >     > Alsa-devel mailing list
> >     >     >     > Alsa-devel@alsa-project.org
> >     >     >     > http://mailman.alsa-project.org/mailman/listinfo/alsa-devel
> >     >     >     > 
> >     >     > 
> >     >     > 
> >     > 
> >     > 
> > 
> > 

Re: Testers wanted: New SB X-Fi driver

[Takashi Iwai]

At Thu, 16 Jul 2009 12:19:15 +0200,
Frashman wrote:
> 
> Takashi Iwai schrieb:
> > At Wed, 15 Jul 2009 12:55:23 +0200,
> > Frashman wrote:
> >   
> >> Hi Takashi,
> >>
> >> first of all, thank you for developing this driver.
> >> I tested it today. It works, so far.
> >>
> >> But two annoying things. As you mentioned, I got problems, if the 
> >> onboard sound modules are loaded. Then i get no sound out auf my xfi.
> >>     
> >
> > It's likely the collision of PCI device ID.
> > Some X-Fi models support both HD-audio and emu20kx-native modes.  The
> > modes are switched by some magical sequence.
> >
> > Anyway, please run alsa-info.sh with --no-upload option, and attach
> > the generated file.
> >   
> I let the kernel auto probe all sound modules and generated then the 
> alsa-info.txt
> It's attached.

The PCI ID looks different from what snd-hda-intel driver supports.
When compiled together with snd-ctxfi, snd-hda-intel only probes
PCI ID 1002:0009.

Are you sure that it's hda-intel that interferes the xfi?
Any relevant kernel messages or asound entry when this happens?


Takashi

Re: Testers wanted: New SB X-Fi driver

[Frank Roth]

Hi

Got it, there was a wrong default entry in
/etc/modprobe.d/50-sound.conf
..made by alsaconf

alias snd-card-0 snd-ctxfi
alias sound-slot-0 snd-ctxfi


moved it now to
/etc/modprobe.d/modprobe.conf
and chanced to:

alias snd-card-0 snd_ctxfi
alias sound-slot-0 snd_ctxfi

now it's fine ... so ... no conflict ... sorry.
but maybe someone could look, why alsaconf had done this.



> 
> The PCI ID looks different from what snd-hda-intel driver supports.
> When compiled together with snd-ctxfi, snd-hda-intel only probes
> PCI ID 1002:0009.
> 
> Are you sure that it's hda-intel that interferes the xfi?
> Any relevant kernel messages or asound entry when this happens?
> 
> 
> Takashi



Found another problem ... maybe it isn't a bug ...

If I raise all volumes in alsamixer to 100% it starts to crackle while playing music ...
If I lower one of the mixer volumes down to 90% it's fine.
Maybe it's just overdriven ... but I'm relative sure, in windows I can gain everything to 100% without to be overdriven.

For now, I've set the PCM volume control to 90%, then I can do whatever I want with the master volume ;-)


Greetings
Frank

Re: Testers wanted: New SB X-Fi driver

[Takashi Iwai]

At Mon, 20 Jul 2009 20:47:55 +0200,
Frank Roth wrote:
> 
> Hi
> 
> Got it, there was a wrong default entry in
> /etc/modprobe.d/50-sound.conf
> ..made by alsaconf
> 
> alias snd-card-0 snd-ctxfi
> alias sound-slot-0 snd-ctxfi
> 
> 
> moved it now to
> /etc/modprobe.d/modprobe.conf
> and chanced to:
> 
> alias snd-card-0 snd_ctxfi
> alias sound-slot-0 snd_ctxfi
> 
> now it's fine ... so ... no conflict ... sorry.
> but maybe someone could look, why alsaconf had done this.

The former file name is the requirement by the recent
module-init-tools.  The question is rather why it doesn't work on your
system.  Maybe modprobe.d/* itself doesn't work?

Anyway, alsaconf is nowadays no longer recommended.  It's good for
detecting some very old ISA devices without PnP, but not for other
normal devices.


Takashi


> > 
> > The PCI ID looks different from what snd-hda-intel driver supports.
> > When compiled together with snd-ctxfi, snd-hda-intel only probes
> > PCI ID 1002:0009.
> > 
> > Are you sure that it's hda-intel that interferes the xfi?
> > Any relevant kernel messages or asound entry when this happens?
> > 
> > 
> > Takashi
> 
> 
> 
> Found another problem ... maybe it isn't a bug ...
> 
> If I raise all volumes in alsamixer to 100% it starts to crackle while playing music ...
> If I lower one of the mixer volumes down to 90% it's fine.
> Maybe it's just overdriven ... but I'm relative sure, in windows I can gain everything to 100% without to be overdriven.
> 
> For now, I've set the PCM volume control to 90%, then I can do whatever I want with the master volume ;-)
> 
> 
> Greetings
> Frank
> 
> 
> 

Re: Testers wanted: New SB X-Fi driver

[Frank Roth]

I play around with my X-Fi now,
I'm wondering if there is a way to support this Headphones/4/5.1/7.1 up-/downmix modes from Windows.
Stereo/Surround ...

And in what I'm much more interested is,
Bass-Redirection ... because I use a Teufel - Concept E Magnum 5.1 speaker system.
It's connected via analogue 5.1 cables. And by default, nothing is coming out of LFE if play usual stereo music.
There is also an option in the windows drivers.


I found out, i could configure .asoundrc to do this, but is this the usual way?



Thanks for help.
Frank

Re: Testers wanted: New SB X-Fi driver

[Takashi Iwai]

At Tue, 21 Jul 2009 12:52:18 +0200,
Frank Roth wrote:
> 
> I play around with my X-Fi now,
> I'm wondering if there is a way to support this Headphones/4/5.1/7.1 up-/downmix modes from Windows.
> Stereo/Surround ...
> 
> And in what I'm much more interested is,
> Bass-Redirection ... because I use a Teufel - Concept E Magnum 5.1 speaker system.
> It's connected via analogue 5.1 cables. And by default, nothing is coming out of LFE if play usual stereo music.
> There is also an option in the windows drivers.
> 
> 
> I found out, i could configure .asoundrc to do this, but is this the usual way?

Unless any information about the DSP programming on emu20kx is opened,
there is no way to implement in the driver side.


Takashi

Re: Testers wanted: New SB X-Fi driver

[Frank Roth]

Ok thanks.

So you still didn't have specifications from Creative?
Because I red some time ago, creative gave the specs to the opensource community?
How is it possible to write this drivers then? Only reengineering from their opensource drivers?
Impressive!!

So I understand it right, everything is more or less software based right now?
We must change this ... (I would help you out, so far I can)


But thanks again for your work,
I have clear sound to here some music on linux, a first step.

Frank

Takashi Iwai schrieb:
> At Tue, 21 Jul 2009 12:52:18 +0200,
> Frank Roth wrote:
>> I play around with my X-Fi now,
>> I'm wondering if there is a way to support this Headphones/4/5.1/7.1 up-/downmix modes from Windows.
>> Stereo/Surround ...
>>
>> And in what I'm much more interested is,
>> Bass-Redirection ... because I use a Teufel - Concept E Magnum 5.1 speaker system.
>> It's connected via analogue 5.1 cables. And by default, nothing is coming out of LFE if play usual stereo music.
>> There is also an option in the windows drivers.
>>
>>
>> I found out, i could configure .asoundrc to do this, but is this the usual way?
> 
> Unless any information about the DSP programming on emu20kx is opened,
> there is no way to implement in the driver side.
> 
> 
> Takashi

Re: Testers wanted: New SB X-Fi driver

[James Courtier-Dutton]

2009/7/21 Frank Roth <frashman@freenet.de>:
> Ok thanks.
>
> So you still didn't have specifications from Creative?
> Because I red some time ago, creative gave the specs to the opensource community?
> How is it possible to write this drivers then? Only reengineering from their opensource drivers?
> Impressive!!
>
> So I understand it right, everything is more or less software based right now?
> We must change this ... (I would help you out, so far I can)
>

That is correct. I have the datasheets from Creative and they are not
complete data sheets. They do not include the DSP workings of the
card. They simply explain how to configure the card to bypass the DSP
unit.
The datasheet does contain some info regarding how one might use
hardware mixing as this uses a separate "mixing unit" within the chip.
I do not think that this "mixing unit" has been implemented in the
open source driver.
The DSP itself is very complex and as a result, reverse engineering it
will be difficult. It would be possible if one had the time but I
don't have the time.
I consider it a similar task to if one was needing to reverse engineer
the x86 chip without having any of the instruction set.

Kind Regards

James