From: Mike Waychison <mikew-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
To: Dave Hansen <dave-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
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Subject: Re: [RFCv2][PATCH] flexible array implementation
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 15:55:56 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4A676ECC.1090400@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090721220017.60A219D3@kernel>
Dave Hansen wrote:
> Changes from v1:
> - to vs too typo
> - added __check_part_and_nr() and gave it a warning
> - fixed off-by-one check on __nr_part_ptrs()
> - addedFLEX_ARRAY_INIT() macro
> - some kerneldoc comments about the capacity
> with various sized objects
> - comments to note lack of locking semantice
>
> --
>
> Once a structure goes over PAGE_SIZE*2, we see occasional
> allocation failures. Some people have chosen to switch
> over to things like vmalloc() that will let them keep
> array-like access to such a large structures. But,
> vmalloc() has plenty of downsides.
>
> Here's an alternative. I think it's what Andrew was
> suggesting here:
>
> http://lkml.org/lkml/2009/7/2/518
>
> I call it a flexible array. It does all of its work in
> PAGE_SIZE bits, so never does an order>0 allocation.
> The base level has PAGE_SIZE-2*sizeof(int) bytes of
> storage for pointers to the second level. So, with a
> 32-bit arch, you get about 4MB (4183112 bytes) of total
> storage when the objects pack nicely into a page. It
> is half that on 64-bit because the pointers are twice
> the size.
>
> The interface is dirt simple. 4 functions:
> alloc_flex_array()
> free_flex_array()
> flex_array_put()
> flex_array_get()
>
> put() appends an item into the array while get() takes
> indexes and does array-style access.
>
> One thought is that we should perhaps make the base
> structure half the size on 32-bit arches. That will
> ensure that someone testing on 32-bit will not get
> bitten by the size shrinking by half when moving to
> 64-bit.
>
> We could also potentially just pass the "element_size"
> into each of the API functions instead of storing it
> internally. That would get us one more base pointer
> on 32-bit.
>
> The last improvement that I thought about was letting
> the individual array members span pages. In this
> implementation, if you have a 2049-byte object, it
> will only pack one of them into each "part" with
> no attempt to pack them. At this point, I don't think
> the added complexity would be worth it.
>
> Signed-off-by: Dave Hansen <dave-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
> ---
>
> linux-2.6.git-dave/include/linux/flex_array.h | 45 +++++
> linux-2.6.git-dave/lib/Makefile | 2
> linux-2.6.git-dave/lib/flex_array.c | 230 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> 3 files changed, 276 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
>
> diff -puN /dev/null include/linux/flex_array.h
> --- /dev/null 2008-09-02 09:40:19.000000000 -0700
> +++ linux-2.6.git-dave/include/linux/flex_array.h 2009-07-21 14:55:35.000000000 -0700
> @@ -0,0 +1,45 @@
> +#ifndef _FLEX_ARRAY_H
> +#define _FLEX_ARRAY_H
> +
> +#include <linux/types.h>
> +#include <asm/page.h>
> +
> +#define FLEX_ARRAY_PART_SIZE PAGE_SIZE
> +#define FLEX_ARRAY_BASE_SIZE PAGE_SIZE
> +
> +struct flex_array_part;
> +
> +/*
> + * This is meant too replace cases where an array-like
> + * structure has gotten to big to fit into kmalloc()
> + * and the developer is getting tempted to use
> + * vmalloc().
> + */
> +
> +struct flex_array {
> + union {
> + struct {
> + int nr_elements;
> + int element_size;
> + struct flex_array_part *parts[0];
> + };
> + /*
> + * This little trick makes sure that
> + * sizeof(flex_array) == PAGE_SIZE
> + */
> + char padding[FLEX_ARRAY_BASE_SIZE];
> + };
> +};
> +
> +#define FLEX_ARRAY_INIT(size, total) {{{\
> + .element_size = (size), \
> + .nr_elements = 0, \
> +}}}
> +
It's not clear how this guy is used. It will initialize a flex_array,
but how is somebody expected to free the parts that get associated with it?
Is there a fancy way to make declaring a flex_array on stack a
compile-time error?
WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Mike Waychison <mikew@google.com>
To: Dave Hansen <dave@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: akpm@linux-foundation.org, containers@lists.linux-foundation.org,
bblum@google.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
menage@google.com, vda.linux@googlemail.com
Subject: Re: [RFCv2][PATCH] flexible array implementation
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 15:55:56 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4A676ECC.1090400@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090721220017.60A219D3@kernel>
Dave Hansen wrote:
> Changes from v1:
> - to vs too typo
> - added __check_part_and_nr() and gave it a warning
> - fixed off-by-one check on __nr_part_ptrs()
> - addedFLEX_ARRAY_INIT() macro
> - some kerneldoc comments about the capacity
> with various sized objects
> - comments to note lack of locking semantice
>
> --
>
> Once a structure goes over PAGE_SIZE*2, we see occasional
> allocation failures. Some people have chosen to switch
> over to things like vmalloc() that will let them keep
> array-like access to such a large structures. But,
> vmalloc() has plenty of downsides.
>
> Here's an alternative. I think it's what Andrew was
> suggesting here:
>
> http://lkml.org/lkml/2009/7/2/518
>
> I call it a flexible array. It does all of its work in
> PAGE_SIZE bits, so never does an order>0 allocation.
> The base level has PAGE_SIZE-2*sizeof(int) bytes of
> storage for pointers to the second level. So, with a
> 32-bit arch, you get about 4MB (4183112 bytes) of total
> storage when the objects pack nicely into a page. It
> is half that on 64-bit because the pointers are twice
> the size.
>
> The interface is dirt simple. 4 functions:
> alloc_flex_array()
> free_flex_array()
> flex_array_put()
> flex_array_get()
>
> put() appends an item into the array while get() takes
> indexes and does array-style access.
>
> One thought is that we should perhaps make the base
> structure half the size on 32-bit arches. That will
> ensure that someone testing on 32-bit will not get
> bitten by the size shrinking by half when moving to
> 64-bit.
>
> We could also potentially just pass the "element_size"
> into each of the API functions instead of storing it
> internally. That would get us one more base pointer
> on 32-bit.
>
> The last improvement that I thought about was letting
> the individual array members span pages. In this
> implementation, if you have a 2049-byte object, it
> will only pack one of them into each "part" with
> no attempt to pack them. At this point, I don't think
> the added complexity would be worth it.
>
> Signed-off-by: Dave Hansen <dave@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
> ---
>
> linux-2.6.git-dave/include/linux/flex_array.h | 45 +++++
> linux-2.6.git-dave/lib/Makefile | 2
> linux-2.6.git-dave/lib/flex_array.c | 230 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> 3 files changed, 276 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
>
> diff -puN /dev/null include/linux/flex_array.h
> --- /dev/null 2008-09-02 09:40:19.000000000 -0700
> +++ linux-2.6.git-dave/include/linux/flex_array.h 2009-07-21 14:55:35.000000000 -0700
> @@ -0,0 +1,45 @@
> +#ifndef _FLEX_ARRAY_H
> +#define _FLEX_ARRAY_H
> +
> +#include <linux/types.h>
> +#include <asm/page.h>
> +
> +#define FLEX_ARRAY_PART_SIZE PAGE_SIZE
> +#define FLEX_ARRAY_BASE_SIZE PAGE_SIZE
> +
> +struct flex_array_part;
> +
> +/*
> + * This is meant too replace cases where an array-like
> + * structure has gotten to big to fit into kmalloc()
> + * and the developer is getting tempted to use
> + * vmalloc().
> + */
> +
> +struct flex_array {
> + union {
> + struct {
> + int nr_elements;
> + int element_size;
> + struct flex_array_part *parts[0];
> + };
> + /*
> + * This little trick makes sure that
> + * sizeof(flex_array) == PAGE_SIZE
> + */
> + char padding[FLEX_ARRAY_BASE_SIZE];
> + };
> +};
> +
> +#define FLEX_ARRAY_INIT(size, total) {{{\
> + .element_size = (size), \
> + .nr_elements = 0, \
> +}}}
> +
It's not clear how this guy is used. It will initialize a flex_array,
but how is somebody expected to free the parts that get associated with it?
Is there a fancy way to make declaring a flex_array on stack a
compile-time error?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-07-22 19:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-07-21 22:00 [RFCv2][PATCH] flexible array implementation Dave Hansen
2009-07-21 22:09 ` Dave Hansen
2009-07-21 22:35 ` Andrew Morton
2009-07-21 22:35 ` Andrew Morton
2009-07-21 22:09 ` Dave Hansen
2009-07-22 3:25 ` Li Zefan
[not found] ` <4A66868F.4010001-BthXqXjhjHXQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2009-07-22 4:34 ` Dave Hansen
2009-07-22 4:34 ` Dave Hansen
2009-07-22 6:14 ` Li Zefan
2009-07-22 6:14 ` Li Zefan
2009-07-22 3:25 ` Li Zefan
2009-07-22 7:09 ` Amerigo Wang
2009-07-22 7:09 ` Amerigo Wang
[not found] ` <20090722070903.GG6281-+dguKlz9DXUf7BdofF/totBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2009-07-22 15:02 ` Dave Hansen
2009-07-22 15:02 ` Dave Hansen
2009-07-22 18:30 ` Matt Helsley
[not found] ` <20090722183018.GE5878-52DBMbEzqgQ/wnmkkaCWp/UQ3DHhIser@public.gmane.org>
2009-07-22 22:03 ` Dave Hansen
2009-07-22 22:03 ` Dave Hansen
2009-07-22 18:30 ` Matt Helsley
2009-07-22 19:55 ` Mike Waychison [this message]
2009-07-22 19:55 ` Mike Waychison
[not found] ` <4A676ECC.1090400-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-07-22 22:00 ` Dave Hansen
2009-07-22 22:00 ` Dave Hansen
2009-07-22 20:57 ` Benjamin Blum
2009-07-22 20:57 ` Benjamin Blum
[not found] ` <2f86c2480907221357j5a09fd9au890f815db3750187-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2009-07-22 21:51 ` Dave Hansen
2009-07-22 21:51 ` Dave Hansen
2009-07-22 23:20 ` Benjamin Blum
2009-07-22 23:20 ` Benjamin Blum
2009-07-23 5:41 ` Dave Hansen
[not found] ` <2f86c2480907221620u6da3a8e3h8273f6a9ee156f86-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2009-07-23 5:41 ` Dave Hansen
2009-07-23 2:45 ` H. Peter Anvin
[not found] ` <4A67CEB7.2080505-YMNOUZJC4hwAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2009-07-23 14:30 ` Dave Hansen
2009-07-23 14:30 ` Dave Hansen
2009-07-23 2:45 ` H. Peter Anvin
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