From: Mark Lord <liml@rtr.ca>
To: Tejun Heo <teheo@suse.de>
Cc: Chris Webb <chris@arachsys.com>,
linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org, Ric Wheeler <rwheeler@redhat.com>,
Andrei Tanas <andrei@tanas.ca>, NeilBrown <neilb@suse.de>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
IDE/ATA development list <linux-ide@vger.kernel.org>,
Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@redhat.com>, Mark Lord <mlord@pobox.com>
Subject: Re: MD/RAID time out writing superblock
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 10:25:16 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4AAE524C.2030401@rtr.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4AAE3F86.8090804@suse.de>
Tejun Heo wrote:
> Mark Lord wrote:
>> Tejun Heo wrote:
>> ..
>>> Oooh, another possibility is the above continuous IDENTIFY tries.
>>> Doing things like that generally isn't a good idea because vendors
>>> don't expect IDENTIFY to be mixed regularly with normal IOs and
>>> firmwares aren't tested against that. Even smart commands sometimes
>>> cause problems. So, finding out the thing which is obsessed with the
>>> identity of the drive and stopping it might help.
>> ..
>>
>> Bullpucky. That sort of thing, specifically with IDENTIFY,
>> has never been an issue.
>
> With SMART it has. I wouldn't be too surprised if some new firmware
> chokes on repeated IDENTIFY mixed with stream of NCQ commands. It's
> just not something people (including vendors) do regularly.
..
Yeah, some drives really don't like SMART commands (hddtemp & smartctl).
That's a strange one, too. Because the whole idea of SMART
is that it gets used to periodically monitor drive health.
IDENTIFY is much safer -- usually no media access after initial spin-up,
and lots of things exercise it quite regularly.
Pretty much any hdparm command triggers an IDENTIFY beforehand now,
hddtemp and smartctl both use it too.
I suspect we're missing some info from this specific failure.
Looking back at Chris's earlier posting, the whole thing started
with a FLUSH_CACHE_EXT failure. Once that happens, all bets are
off on anything that follows.
> Everything will be running fine when suddenly:
>
> ata1.00: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 action 0x6 frozen
> ata1.00: cmd ea/00:00:00:00:00/00:00:00:00:00/a0 tag 0
> res 40/00:00:80:17:91/00:00:37:00:00/40 Emask 0x4 (timeout)
> ata1.00: status: { DRDY }
> ata1: hard resetting link
> ata1: softreset failed (device not ready)
> ata1: hard resetting link
> ata1: SATA link up 3.0 Gbps (SStatus 123 SControl 300)
> ata1.00: configured for UDMA/133
> ata1: EH complete
> end_request: I/O error, dev sda, sector 1465147272
> md: super_written gets error=-5, uptodate=0
> raid10: Disk failure on sda3, disabling device.
> raid10: Operation continuing on 5 devices.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-09-14 14:25 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 84+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-08-26 0:32 MD/RAID: what's wrong with sector 1953519935? Andrei Tanas
2009-08-26 0:50 ` NeilBrown
2009-08-26 1:06 ` Ric Wheeler
2009-08-26 1:24 ` NeilBrown
2009-08-26 1:31 ` Ric Wheeler
2009-08-26 2:22 ` Andrei Tanas
2009-08-26 2:41 ` Ric Wheeler
2009-08-26 3:45 ` Andrei Tanas
2009-08-26 10:34 ` Ric Wheeler
2009-08-26 14:46 ` Andrei Tanas
2009-08-26 14:49 ` Andrei Tanas
2009-08-26 15:39 ` Ric Wheeler
2009-08-26 18:12 ` Andrei Tanas
2009-08-26 18:12 ` Andrei Tanas
2009-08-27 0:07 ` Mark Lord
2009-08-27 1:37 ` Andrei Tanas
2009-08-27 1:37 ` Andrei Tanas
2009-08-27 2:33 ` Robert Hancock
2009-08-27 21:22 ` MD/RAID time out writing superblock Andrei Tanas
2009-08-27 21:57 ` Ric Wheeler
2009-08-31 8:10 ` Tejun Heo
2009-08-31 12:04 ` Ric Wheeler
2009-08-31 12:20 ` Tejun Heo
2009-09-07 11:44 ` Chris Webb
2009-09-07 11:59 ` Chris Webb
2009-09-09 12:02 ` Chris Webb
2009-09-14 7:41 ` Tejun Heo
2009-09-14 7:44 ` Tejun Heo
2009-09-14 12:48 ` Mark Lord
2009-09-14 13:05 ` Tejun Heo
2009-09-14 14:25 ` Mark Lord [this message]
2009-09-16 23:19 ` Chris Webb
2009-09-17 13:29 ` Mark Lord
2009-09-17 13:32 ` Mark Lord
2009-09-17 13:37 ` Chris Webb
2009-09-17 15:35 ` Tejun Heo
2009-09-17 16:16 ` Mark Lord
2009-09-17 16:17 ` Mark Lord
2009-09-18 17:05 ` Chris Webb
2009-09-20 17:35 ` Allan Wind
2009-09-28 5:32 ` Allan Wind
2009-09-21 10:26 ` Chris Webb
2009-09-21 19:47 ` Mark Lord
2009-09-22 6:16 ` Robert Hancock
2009-09-20 18:36 ` Robert Hancock
2009-09-14 13:11 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2009-09-14 13:24 ` Tejun Heo
2009-09-14 14:02 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2009-09-14 14:34 ` Tejun Heo
2009-09-14 13:14 ` Gabor Gombas
2009-09-07 16:55 ` Allan Wind
2009-09-07 23:26 ` Thomas Fjellstrom
2009-09-07 23:26 ` Thomas Fjellstrom
2009-09-14 7:46 ` Tejun Heo
2009-09-14 21:13 ` Thomas Fjellstrom
2009-09-14 22:23 ` Tejun Heo
2009-09-07 16:55 ` Allan Wind
2009-09-16 22:28 ` Chris Webb
2009-09-16 23:47 ` Tejun Heo
2009-09-17 0:34 ` Neil Brown
2009-09-17 12:00 ` Chris Webb
2009-09-17 11:57 ` Chris Webb
2009-09-17 15:44 ` Tejun Heo
2009-09-17 16:36 ` Allan Wind
2009-09-18 0:16 ` Tejun Heo
2009-09-18 2:47 ` Allan Wind
2009-09-18 17:07 ` Chris Webb
2009-09-20 18:46 ` Robert Hancock
2009-09-21 0:02 ` Kyle Moffett
2009-09-17 13:35 ` Mark Lord
2009-09-17 15:47 ` Tejun Heo
2009-08-31 12:21 ` Mark Lord
2009-08-31 23:45 ` Mark Lord
2009-09-01 13:07 ` Andrei Tanas
2009-09-01 13:07 ` Andrei Tanas
2009-09-01 13:15 ` Mark Lord
2009-09-01 13:30 ` Tejun Heo
2009-09-01 13:47 ` Ric Wheeler
2009-09-01 14:18 ` Andrei Tanas
2009-09-01 14:18 ` Andrei Tanas
2009-09-14 5:30 ` Marc Giger
2009-09-14 5:30 ` Marc Giger
2009-09-02 21:58 ` Allan Wind
2009-09-04 19:39 ` Andrei Tanas
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