From: Robert Hancock <hancockrwd@gmail.com>
To: Mark Lord <liml@rtr.ca>
Cc: Tejun Heo <teheo@suse.de>, Chris Webb <chris@arachsys.com>,
linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org, Ric Wheeler <rwheeler@redhat.com>,
Andrei Tanas <andrei@tanas.ca>, NeilBrown <neilb@suse.de>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
IDE/ATA development list <linux-ide@vger.kernel.org>,
Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@redhat.com>, Mark Lord <mlord@pobox.com>
Subject: Re: MD/RAID time out writing superblock
Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2009 12:36:39 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4AB67637.9060906@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4AB260CA.8040308@rtr.ca>
On 09/17/2009 10:16 AM, Mark Lord wrote:
> Tejun Heo wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> Mark Lord wrote:
>>> Tejun.. do we do a FLUSH CACHE before issuing a non-NCQ command ?
>>
>> Nope.
>>
>>> If not, then I think we may need to add code to do it.
>>
>> Hmm... can you explain a bit more? That seems rather extreme to me.
> ..
>
> You may recall that I first raised this issue about a year ago,
> when my own RAID0 array (MythTV box) started showing errors very
> similar to what Chris is reporting.
>
> These were easily triggered by running hddtemp once every few seconds
> to log drive temperatures during Myth recording sessions.
>
> hddtemp uses SMART commands.
>
> The actual errors in the logs were command timeouts,
> but at this point I no longer remember which opcode was
> actually timing out. Disabling the onboard write cache
> immediately "cured" the problem, at the expense of MUCH
> slower I/O times.
>
> My theory at the time, was that some non-NCQ commands might be triggering
> an internal FLUSH CACHE within the (Hitachi) drive firmware, which then
> caused the original command to timeout in libata (due to the large amounts
> of data present in the onboard write-caches).
>
> Now that more people are playing the game, we're seeing more and more
> reports of strange interactions with smartd running in the background.
Well, unless the SMART commands are using a non-standard timeout, it'll
be the same as the timeout for the flush cache, so the flush cache would
have timed out too..
>
> I suspect more and more now that this is an (avoidable) interaction
> between the write-cache and the SMART opcode, and it could perhaps be
> avoided by doing a FLUSH CACHE before any SMART (or non-data command)
> opcode.
>
> Cheers
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-09-20 18:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 84+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-08-26 0:32 MD/RAID: what's wrong with sector 1953519935? Andrei Tanas
2009-08-26 0:50 ` NeilBrown
2009-08-26 1:06 ` Ric Wheeler
2009-08-26 1:24 ` NeilBrown
2009-08-26 1:31 ` Ric Wheeler
2009-08-26 2:22 ` Andrei Tanas
2009-08-26 2:41 ` Ric Wheeler
2009-08-26 3:45 ` Andrei Tanas
2009-08-26 10:34 ` Ric Wheeler
2009-08-26 14:46 ` Andrei Tanas
2009-08-26 14:49 ` Andrei Tanas
2009-08-26 15:39 ` Ric Wheeler
2009-08-26 18:12 ` Andrei Tanas
2009-08-26 18:12 ` Andrei Tanas
2009-08-27 0:07 ` Mark Lord
2009-08-27 1:37 ` Andrei Tanas
2009-08-27 1:37 ` Andrei Tanas
2009-08-27 2:33 ` Robert Hancock
2009-08-27 21:22 ` MD/RAID time out writing superblock Andrei Tanas
2009-08-27 21:57 ` Ric Wheeler
2009-08-31 8:10 ` Tejun Heo
2009-08-31 12:04 ` Ric Wheeler
2009-08-31 12:20 ` Tejun Heo
2009-09-07 11:44 ` Chris Webb
2009-09-07 11:59 ` Chris Webb
2009-09-09 12:02 ` Chris Webb
2009-09-14 7:41 ` Tejun Heo
2009-09-14 7:44 ` Tejun Heo
2009-09-14 12:48 ` Mark Lord
2009-09-14 13:05 ` Tejun Heo
2009-09-14 14:25 ` Mark Lord
2009-09-16 23:19 ` Chris Webb
2009-09-17 13:29 ` Mark Lord
2009-09-17 13:32 ` Mark Lord
2009-09-17 13:37 ` Chris Webb
2009-09-17 15:35 ` Tejun Heo
2009-09-17 16:16 ` Mark Lord
2009-09-17 16:17 ` Mark Lord
2009-09-18 17:05 ` Chris Webb
2009-09-20 17:35 ` Allan Wind
2009-09-28 5:32 ` Allan Wind
2009-09-21 10:26 ` Chris Webb
2009-09-21 19:47 ` Mark Lord
2009-09-22 6:16 ` Robert Hancock
2009-09-20 18:36 ` Robert Hancock [this message]
2009-09-14 13:11 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2009-09-14 13:24 ` Tejun Heo
2009-09-14 14:02 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2009-09-14 14:34 ` Tejun Heo
2009-09-14 13:14 ` Gabor Gombas
2009-09-07 16:55 ` Allan Wind
2009-09-07 16:55 ` Allan Wind
2009-09-07 23:26 ` Thomas Fjellstrom
2009-09-07 23:26 ` Thomas Fjellstrom
2009-09-14 7:46 ` Tejun Heo
2009-09-14 21:13 ` Thomas Fjellstrom
2009-09-14 22:23 ` Tejun Heo
2009-09-16 22:28 ` Chris Webb
2009-09-16 23:47 ` Tejun Heo
2009-09-17 0:34 ` Neil Brown
2009-09-17 12:00 ` Chris Webb
2009-09-17 11:57 ` Chris Webb
2009-09-17 15:44 ` Tejun Heo
2009-09-17 16:36 ` Allan Wind
2009-09-18 0:16 ` Tejun Heo
2009-09-18 2:47 ` Allan Wind
2009-09-18 17:07 ` Chris Webb
2009-09-20 18:46 ` Robert Hancock
2009-09-21 0:02 ` Kyle Moffett
2009-09-17 13:35 ` Mark Lord
2009-09-17 15:47 ` Tejun Heo
2009-08-31 12:21 ` Mark Lord
2009-08-31 23:45 ` Mark Lord
2009-09-01 13:07 ` Andrei Tanas
2009-09-01 13:07 ` Andrei Tanas
2009-09-01 13:15 ` Mark Lord
2009-09-01 13:30 ` Tejun Heo
2009-09-01 13:47 ` Ric Wheeler
2009-09-01 14:18 ` Andrei Tanas
2009-09-01 14:18 ` Andrei Tanas
2009-09-14 5:30 ` Marc Giger
2009-09-14 5:30 ` Marc Giger
2009-09-02 21:58 ` Allan Wind
2009-09-04 19:39 ` Andrei Tanas
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