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* pci: is reset incomplete?
@ 2009-09-14 15:48 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Michael S. Tsirkin @ 2009-09-14 15:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Paul Brook
  Cc: Avi Kivity, qemu-devel, Carsten Otte, kvm, Rusty Russell,
	virtualization, Christian Borntraeger

Hi!
pci bus reset does not seem to clear pci config registers, such as BAR
registers, or memory space enable, of the attached devices: it only
clears the interrupt state.

This seems wrong, but easy to fix.

Comments?

-- 
MST

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* [Qemu-devel] pci: is reset incomplete?
@ 2009-09-14 15:48 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Michael S. Tsirkin @ 2009-09-14 15:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Paul Brook
  Cc: Carsten Otte, kvm, Rusty Russell, qemu-devel, virtualization,
	Christian Borntraeger, Avi Kivity

Hi!
pci bus reset does not seem to clear pci config registers, such as BAR
registers, or memory space enable, of the attached devices: it only
clears the interrupt state.

This seems wrong, but easy to fix.

Comments?

-- 
MST

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread

* pci: is reset incomplete?
@ 2009-09-14 15:48 Michael S. Tsirkin
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Michael S. Tsirkin @ 2009-09-14 15:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Paul Brook
  Cc: Carsten Otte, kvm, qemu-devel, virtualization,
	Christian Borntraeger, Avi Kivity

Hi!
pci bus reset does not seem to clear pci config registers, such as BAR
registers, or memory space enable, of the attached devices: it only
clears the interrupt state.

This seems wrong, but easy to fix.

Comments?

-- 
MST

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread

* Re: pci: is reset incomplete?
  2009-09-14 15:48 ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
  (?)
@ 2009-09-14 17:15 ` Anthony Liguori
  -1 siblings, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Anthony Liguori @ 2009-09-14 17:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Michael S. Tsirkin
  Cc: Carsten Otte, kvm, qemu-devel, virtualization,
	Christian Borntraeger, Paul Brook, Avi Kivity

Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> Hi!
> pci bus reset does not seem to clear pci config registers, such as BAR
> registers, or memory space enable, of the attached devices: it only
> clears the interrupt state.
>
> This seems wrong, but easy to fix.
>   

I don't think most pci devices reset their config space in their reset 
callbacks.

I would think that making most of the config space (if not the entire) 
qdev properties would make sense.  You can then get reset for free and 
it's possible for users to tweak things like class codes universally.

Regards,

Anthony Liguori

> Comments?
>
>   

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread

* Re: pci: is reset incomplete?
  2009-09-14 15:48 ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
@ 2009-09-14 17:15   ` Anthony Liguori
  -1 siblings, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Anthony Liguori @ 2009-09-14 17:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Michael S. Tsirkin
  Cc: Paul Brook, Avi Kivity, qemu-devel, Carsten Otte, kvm,
	Rusty Russell, virtualization, Christian Borntraeger,
	Gerd Hoffmann

Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> Hi!
> pci bus reset does not seem to clear pci config registers, such as BAR
> registers, or memory space enable, of the attached devices: it only
> clears the interrupt state.
>
> This seems wrong, but easy to fix.
>   

I don't think most pci devices reset their config space in their reset 
callbacks.

I would think that making most of the config space (if not the entire) 
qdev properties would make sense.  You can then get reset for free and 
it's possible for users to tweak things like class codes universally.

Regards,

Anthony Liguori

> Comments?
>
>   


^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread

* [Qemu-devel] Re: pci: is reset incomplete?
@ 2009-09-14 17:15   ` Anthony Liguori
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Anthony Liguori @ 2009-09-14 17:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Michael S. Tsirkin
  Cc: Carsten Otte, Gerd Hoffmann, kvm, Rusty Russell, qemu-devel,
	virtualization, Christian Borntraeger, Paul Brook, Avi Kivity

Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> Hi!
> pci bus reset does not seem to clear pci config registers, such as BAR
> registers, or memory space enable, of the attached devices: it only
> clears the interrupt state.
>
> This seems wrong, but easy to fix.
>   

I don't think most pci devices reset their config space in their reset 
callbacks.

I would think that making most of the config space (if not the entire) 
qdev properties would make sense.  You can then get reset for free and 
it's possible for users to tweak things like class codes universally.

Regards,

Anthony Liguori

> Comments?
>
>   

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread

* Re: pci: is reset incomplete?
  2009-09-14 17:15   ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
  (?)
@ 2009-09-14 17:36   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
  -1 siblings, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Michael S. Tsirkin @ 2009-09-14 17:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Anthony Liguori
  Cc: Carsten Otte, kvm, qemu-devel, virtualization,
	Christian Borntraeger, Paul Brook, Avi Kivity

On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 12:15:29PM -0500, Anthony Liguori wrote:
> Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
>> Hi!
>> pci bus reset does not seem to clear pci config registers, such as BAR
>> registers, or memory space enable, of the attached devices: it only
>> clears the interrupt state.
>>
>> This seems wrong, but easy to fix.
>>   
>
> I don't think most pci devices reset their config space in their reset  
> callbacks.

For things like BAR registers, they really must.
The PCI spec is quite specific on this point.

> I would think that making most of the config space (if not the entire)  
> qdev properties would make sense.  You can then get reset for free and  
> it's possible for users to tweak things like class codes universally.

class codes are read only registers. Your proposal might be correct for
some of these. But PCI registers that are reset, change as a result of
guest activity, and reset values are typically specified by guest spec.
So I don't think we should let users tweak these.

> Regards,
>
> Anthony Liguori
>
>> Comments?
>>
>>   

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread

* Re: pci: is reset incomplete?
  2009-09-14 17:15   ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
@ 2009-09-14 17:36     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
  -1 siblings, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Michael S. Tsirkin @ 2009-09-14 17:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Anthony Liguori
  Cc: Paul Brook, Avi Kivity, qemu-devel, Carsten Otte, kvm,
	Rusty Russell, virtualization, Christian Borntraeger,
	Gerd Hoffmann

On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 12:15:29PM -0500, Anthony Liguori wrote:
> Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
>> Hi!
>> pci bus reset does not seem to clear pci config registers, such as BAR
>> registers, or memory space enable, of the attached devices: it only
>> clears the interrupt state.
>>
>> This seems wrong, but easy to fix.
>>   
>
> I don't think most pci devices reset their config space in their reset  
> callbacks.

For things like BAR registers, they really must.
The PCI spec is quite specific on this point.

> I would think that making most of the config space (if not the entire)  
> qdev properties would make sense.  You can then get reset for free and  
> it's possible for users to tweak things like class codes universally.

class codes are read only registers. Your proposal might be correct for
some of these. But PCI registers that are reset, change as a result of
guest activity, and reset values are typically specified by guest spec.
So I don't think we should let users tweak these.

> Regards,
>
> Anthony Liguori
>
>> Comments?
>>
>>   

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread

* [Qemu-devel] Re: pci: is reset incomplete?
@ 2009-09-14 17:36     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Michael S. Tsirkin @ 2009-09-14 17:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Anthony Liguori
  Cc: Carsten Otte, Gerd Hoffmann, kvm, Rusty Russell, qemu-devel,
	virtualization, Christian Borntraeger, Paul Brook, Avi Kivity

On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 12:15:29PM -0500, Anthony Liguori wrote:
> Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
>> Hi!
>> pci bus reset does not seem to clear pci config registers, such as BAR
>> registers, or memory space enable, of the attached devices: it only
>> clears the interrupt state.
>>
>> This seems wrong, but easy to fix.
>>   
>
> I don't think most pci devices reset their config space in their reset  
> callbacks.

For things like BAR registers, they really must.
The PCI spec is quite specific on this point.

> I would think that making most of the config space (if not the entire)  
> qdev properties would make sense.  You can then get reset for free and  
> it's possible for users to tweak things like class codes universally.

class codes are read only registers. Your proposal might be correct for
some of these. But PCI registers that are reset, change as a result of
guest activity, and reset values are typically specified by guest spec.
So I don't think we should let users tweak these.

> Regards,
>
> Anthony Liguori
>
>> Comments?
>>
>>   

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread

* Re: pci: is reset incomplete?
  2009-09-14 17:36     ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
  (?)
@ 2009-09-14 22:54     ` Anthony Liguori
  -1 siblings, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Anthony Liguori @ 2009-09-14 22:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Michael S. Tsirkin
  Cc: Carsten Otte, kvm, qemu-devel, virtualization,
	Christian Borntraeger, Paul Brook, Avi Kivity

Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 12:15:29PM -0500, Anthony Liguori wrote:
>   
>> Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
>>     
>>> Hi!
>>> pci bus reset does not seem to clear pci config registers, such as BAR
>>> registers, or memory space enable, of the attached devices: it only
>>> clears the interrupt state.
>>>
>>> This seems wrong, but easy to fix.
>>>   
>>>       
>> I don't think most pci devices reset their config space in their reset  
>> callbacks.
>>     
>
> For things like BAR registers, they really must.
>   

BARs should be registered via pci_register_bar so you should be able to 
centralize their reset.

> class codes are read only registers. Your proposal might be correct for
> some of these. But PCI registers that are reset, change as a result of
> guest activity, and reset values are typically specified by guest spec.
> So I don't think we should let users tweak these.
>   

Well, I guess my general point was that it would be good to add more 
structure to how config space is initialized.  I think a natural 
consequence of that is that it becomes easier to automatically fix the 
values on reset.

Regards,

Anthony Liguori

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread

* Re: pci: is reset incomplete?
  2009-09-14 17:36     ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
@ 2009-09-14 22:54       ` Anthony Liguori
  -1 siblings, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Anthony Liguori @ 2009-09-14 22:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Michael S. Tsirkin
  Cc: Paul Brook, Avi Kivity, qemu-devel, Carsten Otte, kvm,
	Rusty Russell, virtualization, Christian Borntraeger,
	Gerd Hoffmann

Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 12:15:29PM -0500, Anthony Liguori wrote:
>   
>> Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
>>     
>>> Hi!
>>> pci bus reset does not seem to clear pci config registers, such as BAR
>>> registers, or memory space enable, of the attached devices: it only
>>> clears the interrupt state.
>>>
>>> This seems wrong, but easy to fix.
>>>   
>>>       
>> I don't think most pci devices reset their config space in their reset  
>> callbacks.
>>     
>
> For things like BAR registers, they really must.
>   

BARs should be registered via pci_register_bar so you should be able to 
centralize their reset.

> class codes are read only registers. Your proposal might be correct for
> some of these. But PCI registers that are reset, change as a result of
> guest activity, and reset values are typically specified by guest spec.
> So I don't think we should let users tweak these.
>   

Well, I guess my general point was that it would be good to add more 
structure to how config space is initialized.  I think a natural 
consequence of that is that it becomes easier to automatically fix the 
values on reset.

Regards,

Anthony Liguori

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread

* [Qemu-devel] Re: pci: is reset incomplete?
@ 2009-09-14 22:54       ` Anthony Liguori
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Anthony Liguori @ 2009-09-14 22:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Michael S. Tsirkin
  Cc: Carsten Otte, Gerd Hoffmann, kvm, Rusty Russell, qemu-devel,
	virtualization, Christian Borntraeger, Paul Brook, Avi Kivity

Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 12:15:29PM -0500, Anthony Liguori wrote:
>   
>> Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
>>     
>>> Hi!
>>> pci bus reset does not seem to clear pci config registers, such as BAR
>>> registers, or memory space enable, of the attached devices: it only
>>> clears the interrupt state.
>>>
>>> This seems wrong, but easy to fix.
>>>   
>>>       
>> I don't think most pci devices reset their config space in their reset  
>> callbacks.
>>     
>
> For things like BAR registers, they really must.
>   

BARs should be registered via pci_register_bar so you should be able to 
centralize their reset.

> class codes are read only registers. Your proposal might be correct for
> some of these. But PCI registers that are reset, change as a result of
> guest activity, and reset values are typically specified by guest spec.
> So I don't think we should let users tweak these.
>   

Well, I guess my general point was that it would be good to add more 
structure to how config space is initialized.  I think a natural 
consequence of that is that it becomes easier to automatically fix the 
values on reset.

Regards,

Anthony Liguori

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread

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