From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Cc: Christian Brunner <chb@muc.de>,
MORITA Kazutaka <morita.kazutaka@lab.ntt.co.jp>,
Blue Swirl <blauwirbel@gmail.com>,
kvm@vger.kernel.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
ceph-devel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 1/1] ceph/rbd block driver for qemu-kvm
Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 08:17:13 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4BFBCDD9.4070104@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4BFB94D9.5080904@redhat.com>
On 05/25/2010 04:14 AM, Avi Kivity wrote:
> On 05/24/2010 10:38 PM, Anthony Liguori wrote:
>>
>>> - Building a plugin API seems a bit simpler to me, although I'm to
>>> sure if I'd get the
>>> idea correctly:
>>> The block layer has already some kind of api (.bdrv_file_open,
>>> .bdrv_read). We
>>> could simply compile the block-drivers as shared objects and
>>> create a method
>>> for loading the necessary modules at runtime.
>>
>> That approach would be a recipe for disaster. We would have to
>> introduce a new, reduced functionality block API that was supported
>> for plugins. Otherwise, the only way a plugin could keep up with our
>> API changes would be if it was in tree which defeats the purpose of
>> having plugins.
>
> We could guarantee API/ABI stability in a stable branch but not across
> releases.
We have releases every six months. There would be tons of block plugins
that didn't work for random sets of releases. That creates a lot of
user confusion and unhappiness.
Regards,
Anthony Liguori
WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Cc: kvm@vger.kernel.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
Blue Swirl <blauwirbel@gmail.com>,
ceph-devel@vger.kernel.org, Christian Brunner <chb@muc.de>,
MORITA Kazutaka <morita.kazutaka@lab.ntt.co.jp>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 1/1] ceph/rbd block driver for qemu-kvm
Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 08:17:13 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4BFBCDD9.4070104@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4BFB94D9.5080904@redhat.com>
On 05/25/2010 04:14 AM, Avi Kivity wrote:
> On 05/24/2010 10:38 PM, Anthony Liguori wrote:
>>
>>> - Building a plugin API seems a bit simpler to me, although I'm to
>>> sure if I'd get the
>>> idea correctly:
>>> The block layer has already some kind of api (.bdrv_file_open,
>>> .bdrv_read). We
>>> could simply compile the block-drivers as shared objects and
>>> create a method
>>> for loading the necessary modules at runtime.
>>
>> That approach would be a recipe for disaster. We would have to
>> introduce a new, reduced functionality block API that was supported
>> for plugins. Otherwise, the only way a plugin could keep up with our
>> API changes would be if it was in tree which defeats the purpose of
>> having plugins.
>
> We could guarantee API/ABI stability in a stable branch but not across
> releases.
We have releases every six months. There would be tons of block plugins
that didn't work for random sets of releases. That creates a lot of
user confusion and unhappiness.
Regards,
Anthony Liguori
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-05-25 13:17 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 129+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-05-19 19:22 [RFC PATCH 1/1] ceph/rbd block driver for qemu-kvm Christian Brunner
2010-05-19 19:22 ` [Qemu-devel] " Christian Brunner
2010-05-20 20:31 ` Blue Swirl
2010-05-20 20:31 ` Blue Swirl
2010-05-20 21:18 ` Christian Brunner
2010-05-20 21:18 ` Christian Brunner
2010-05-20 21:29 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-20 21:29 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-20 22:16 ` Christian Brunner
2010-05-20 22:16 ` Christian Brunner
2010-05-21 5:28 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-05-21 5:28 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-05-21 6:13 ` MORITA Kazutaka
2010-05-21 6:13 ` MORITA Kazutaka
2010-05-21 5:54 ` MORITA Kazutaka
2010-05-21 5:54 ` MORITA Kazutaka
2010-05-23 12:01 ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-23 12:01 ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-24 7:12 ` MORITA Kazutaka
2010-05-24 7:12 ` MORITA Kazutaka
2010-05-24 11:05 ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-24 11:05 ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-24 11:42 ` MORITA Kazutaka
2010-05-24 11:42 ` MORITA Kazutaka
2010-05-24 11:56 ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-24 11:56 ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-24 12:07 ` Cláudio Martins
2010-05-24 12:07 ` Cláudio Martins
2010-05-24 14:01 ` MORITA Kazutaka
2010-05-24 14:01 ` MORITA Kazutaka
2010-05-24 19:07 ` Christian Brunner
2010-05-24 19:07 ` Christian Brunner
2010-05-24 19:38 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-24 19:38 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-25 9:14 ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-25 9:14 ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-25 13:17 ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2010-05-25 13:17 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-25 13:25 ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-25 13:25 ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-25 13:29 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-25 13:29 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-25 13:36 ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-25 13:36 ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-25 13:54 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-25 13:54 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-25 13:57 ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-25 13:57 ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-25 14:02 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-25 14:02 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-26 8:44 ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-26 8:44 ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-25 14:01 ` Kevin Wolf
2010-05-25 14:01 ` Kevin Wolf
2010-05-25 16:21 ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-25 16:21 ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-25 17:12 ` Sage Weil
2010-05-25 17:12 ` Sage Weil
2010-05-25 17:12 ` Sage Weil
2010-05-26 5:24 ` MORITA Kazutaka
2010-05-26 5:24 ` MORITA Kazutaka
2010-05-26 8:46 ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-26 8:46 ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-24 19:16 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-24 19:16 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-25 9:19 ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-25 9:19 ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-25 13:26 ` MORITA Kazutaka
2010-05-25 13:26 ` MORITA Kazutaka
2010-05-24 8:27 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-05-24 8:27 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-05-24 11:03 ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-24 11:03 ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-24 19:19 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-24 19:19 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-25 9:22 ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-25 9:22 ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-25 11:02 ` Kevin Wolf
2010-05-25 11:02 ` Kevin Wolf
2010-05-25 11:25 ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-25 11:25 ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-25 12:03 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-05-25 12:03 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-05-25 12:13 ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-25 12:13 ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-25 13:25 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-25 13:25 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-25 13:31 ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-25 13:31 ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-25 13:35 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-25 13:35 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-25 13:38 ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-25 13:38 ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-25 13:55 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-25 13:55 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-25 14:01 ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-25 14:01 ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-25 14:05 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-25 14:05 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-25 15:00 ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-25 15:00 ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-25 15:01 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-25 15:01 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-25 16:16 ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-25 16:16 ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-25 16:21 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-25 16:21 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-25 16:27 ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-25 16:27 ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-25 13:53 ` Kevin Wolf
2010-05-25 13:53 ` Kevin Wolf
2010-05-25 13:55 ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-25 13:55 ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-25 14:03 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-25 14:03 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-25 15:02 ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-25 15:02 ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-25 14:09 ` Kevin Wolf
2010-05-25 14:09 ` Kevin Wolf
2010-05-25 15:01 ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-25 15:01 ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-20 23:02 ` Yehuda Sadeh Weinraub
2010-05-20 23:02 ` Yehuda Sadeh Weinraub
2010-05-23 7:59 ` Blue Swirl
2010-05-23 7:59 ` Blue Swirl
2010-05-24 2:17 ` Yehuda Sadeh Weinraub
2010-05-24 2:17 ` Yehuda Sadeh Weinraub
2010-05-25 20:13 ` Blue Swirl
2010-05-25 20:13 ` [Qemu-devel] " Blue Swirl
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