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From: Cong Wang <amwang@redhat.com>
To: Andy Gospodarek <andy@greyhouse.net>
Cc: Jay Vosburgh <fubar@us.ibm.com>,
	Neil Horman <nhorman@tuxdriver.com>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, Andy Gospodarek <gospo@redhat.com>,
	bridge@lists.linux-foundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Flavio Leitner <fbl@sysclose.org>, Jeff Moyer <jmoyer@redhat.com>,
	Matt Mackall <mpm@selenic.com>,
	bonding-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Bridge] [v5 Patch 1/3] netpoll: add generic support for bridge and	bonding devices
Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2010 17:57:49 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4C0CC29D.9070507@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100604191841.GM7497@gospo.rdu.redhat.com>

On 06/05/10 03:18, Andy Gospodarek wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 02, 2010 at 06:04:45PM +0800, Cong Wang wrote:
>> On 06/02/10 02:42, Jay Vosburgh wrote:
>>> Cong Wang<amwang@redhat.com>   wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 06/01/10 03:08, Flavio Leitner wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 01:56:52PM +0800, Cong Wang wrote:
>>>>>> Hi, Flavio,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please use the attached patch instead, try to see if it solves
>>>>>> all your problems.
>>>>>
>>>>> I tried and it hangs. No backtraces this time.
>>>>> The bond_change_active_slave() prints before NETDEV_BONDING_FAILOVER
>>>>> notification, so I think it won't work.
>>>>
>>>> Ah, I thought the same.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Please, correct if I'm wrong, but when a failover happens with your
>>>>> patch applied, the netconsole would be disabled forever even with
>>>>> another healthy slave, right?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yes, this is an easy solution, because bonding has several modes,
>>>> it is complex to make netpoll work in different modes.
>>>
>>> 	If I understand correctly, the root cause of the problem with
>>> netconsole and bonding is that bonding is, ultimately, performing
>>> printks with a write lock held, and when netconsole recursively calls
>>> into bonding to send the printk over the netconsole, there is a deadlock
>>> (when the bonding xmit function attempts to acquire the same lock for
>>> read).
>>
>>
>> Yes.
>>
>>>
>>> 	You're trying to avoid the deadlock by shutting off netconsole
>>> (permanently, it looks like) for one problem case: a failover, which
>>> does some printks with a write lock held.
>>>
>>> 	This doesn't look to me like a complete solution, there are
>>> other cases in bonding that will do printk with write locks held.  I
>>> suspect those will also hang netconsole as things exist today, and won't
>>> be affected by your patch below.
>>
>>
>> I can expect that, bonding modes are complex.
>>
>>>
>>> 	For example:
>>>
>>> 	The sysfs functions to set the primary (bonding_store_primary)
>>> or active (bonding_store_active_slave) options: a pr_info is called to
>>> provide a log message of the results.  These could be tested by setting
>>> the primary or active options via sysfs, e.g.,
>>>
>>> echo eth0>   /sys/class/net/bond0/bonding/primary
>>> echo eth0>   /sys/class/net/bond0/bonding/active
>>>
>>> 	If the kernel is defined with DEBUG, there are a few pr_debug
>>> calls within write_locks (bond_del_vlan, for example).
>>>
>>> 	If the slave's underlying device driver's ndo_vlan_rx_register
>>> or ndo_vlan_rx_kill_vid functions call printk (and it looks like some do
>>> for error cases, e.g., igbvf, ehea, enic), those would also presumably
>>> deadlock (because bonding holds its write_lock when calling the ndo_
>>> vlan functions).
>>>
>>> 	It also appears that (with the patch below) some nominally
>>> normal usage patterns will immediately disable netconsole.  The one that
>>> comes to mind is if the primary= option is set (to "eth1" for this
>>> example), but that slave not enslaved first (the slaves are added, say,
>>> eth0 then eth1).  In that situation, when the primary slave (eth1 here)
>>> is added, the first thing that will happen is a failover, and that will
>>> disable netconsole.
>>>
>>
>> Thanks for your detailed explanation!
>>
>> This is why I said bonding is complex. I guess we would have to adjust
>> netpoll code for different bonding cases, one solution seems not fix all.
>> I am not sure how much work to do, since I am not familiar with bonding
>> code. Maybe Andy can help?
>>
>
> Sorry I've been silent until now.  This does seem quite similar to a
> problem I've previously encountered when dealing with bonding+netpoll on
> some old 2.6.9-based kernels.  There is no guarantee the methods used
> there will apply here, but I'll talk about them anyway.
>
> As Flavio noticed, recursive calls into the bond transmit routines were
> not a good idea.  I discovered the same and worked around this issue by
> checking to see if we could take the bond->lock for writing before
> continuing.  If we could not get, I wanted to signal that this should be
> queued for transmission later.  Based on the flow of netpoll_send_skb
> (or possibly for another reason that is escaping me right now) I added
> one of these checks in bond_poll_controller too.  These aren't the
> prettiest fixes, but seemed to work well for me when I did this work in
> the past.  I realize the differences are not that great compared to some
> of the patches posted by Flavio, but I think they are worth trying.


Hmm, I still feel like this way is ugly, although it may work.
I guess David doesn't like it either.

Anyway, Flavio, could you try the following patch as well?

Thanks a lot!

>
> diff --git a/drivers/net/bonding/bond_main.c b/drivers/net/bonding/bond_main.c
> index ef60244..d7b9b99 100644
> --- a/drivers/net/bonding/bond_main.c
> +++ b/drivers/net/bonding/bond_main.c
> @@ -1290,6 +1290,12 @@ static bool slaves_support_netpoll(struct net_device *bond_dev)
>   static void bond_poll_controller(struct net_device *bond_dev)
>   {
>   	struct net_device *dev = bond_dev->npinfo->netpoll->real_dev;
> +	struct bonding *bond = netdev_priv(bond_dev);
> +
> +	if (!write_trylock(&bond->lock))
> +		return;
> +	write_unlock(&bond->lock);
> +
>   	if (dev != bond_dev)
>   		netpoll_poll_dev(dev);
>   }
> @@ -4418,7 +4424,11 @@ static void bond_set_xmit_hash_policy(struct bonding *bond)
>
>   static netdev_tx_t bond_start_xmit(struct sk_buff *skb, struct net_device *dev)
>   {
> -	const struct bonding *bond = netdev_priv(dev);
> +	struct bonding *bond = netdev_priv(dev);
> +
> +	if (!write_trylock(&bond->lock))
> +		return NETDEV_TX_BUSY;
> +	write_unlock(&bond->lock);
>
>   	switch (bond->params.mode) {
>   	case BOND_MODE_ROUNDROBIN:
>
> The other key to all of this is to make sure that queuing is done
> correctly now that we expect to queue these frames and have them sent at
> some point when there is a member of the bond that is actually capable
> of sending them out.
>
> The new style of sending queued skbs in a workqueue is much better than
> what was done in the 2.6.9 timeframe, but careful attention should still
> be paid to txq lock and which processor is the owner.  Returning
> something other than NETDEV_TX_OK from bond_start_xmit and checking for
> locks being held there should also help with any deadlocks that show up
> while running in queue_process (though they would not be recursive).
>
> I'm not in a good spot to test this right now, but I can take a look at
> next week and we can try and track down any of the other deadlocks that
> currently exist as I suspect this will not resolve all of the issues.


WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Cong Wang <amwang@redhat.com>
To: Andy Gospodarek <andy@greyhouse.net>
Cc: Jay Vosburgh <fubar@us.ibm.com>,
	Flavio Leitner <fbl@sysclose.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Matt Mackall <mpm@selenic.com>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, bridge@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	Andy Gospodarek <gospo@redhat.com>,
	Neil Horman <nhorman@tuxdriver.com>,
	Jeff Moyer <jmoyer@redhat.com>,
	Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@linux-foundation.org>,
	bonding-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Subject: Re: [v5 Patch 1/3] netpoll: add generic support for bridge and	bonding devices
Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2010 17:57:49 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4C0CC29D.9070507@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100604191841.GM7497@gospo.rdu.redhat.com>

On 06/05/10 03:18, Andy Gospodarek wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 02, 2010 at 06:04:45PM +0800, Cong Wang wrote:
>> On 06/02/10 02:42, Jay Vosburgh wrote:
>>> Cong Wang<amwang@redhat.com>   wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 06/01/10 03:08, Flavio Leitner wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 01:56:52PM +0800, Cong Wang wrote:
>>>>>> Hi, Flavio,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please use the attached patch instead, try to see if it solves
>>>>>> all your problems.
>>>>>
>>>>> I tried and it hangs. No backtraces this time.
>>>>> The bond_change_active_slave() prints before NETDEV_BONDING_FAILOVER
>>>>> notification, so I think it won't work.
>>>>
>>>> Ah, I thought the same.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Please, correct if I'm wrong, but when a failover happens with your
>>>>> patch applied, the netconsole would be disabled forever even with
>>>>> another healthy slave, right?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yes, this is an easy solution, because bonding has several modes,
>>>> it is complex to make netpoll work in different modes.
>>>
>>> 	If I understand correctly, the root cause of the problem with
>>> netconsole and bonding is that bonding is, ultimately, performing
>>> printks with a write lock held, and when netconsole recursively calls
>>> into bonding to send the printk over the netconsole, there is a deadlock
>>> (when the bonding xmit function attempts to acquire the same lock for
>>> read).
>>
>>
>> Yes.
>>
>>>
>>> 	You're trying to avoid the deadlock by shutting off netconsole
>>> (permanently, it looks like) for one problem case: a failover, which
>>> does some printks with a write lock held.
>>>
>>> 	This doesn't look to me like a complete solution, there are
>>> other cases in bonding that will do printk with write locks held.  I
>>> suspect those will also hang netconsole as things exist today, and won't
>>> be affected by your patch below.
>>
>>
>> I can expect that, bonding modes are complex.
>>
>>>
>>> 	For example:
>>>
>>> 	The sysfs functions to set the primary (bonding_store_primary)
>>> or active (bonding_store_active_slave) options: a pr_info is called to
>>> provide a log message of the results.  These could be tested by setting
>>> the primary or active options via sysfs, e.g.,
>>>
>>> echo eth0>   /sys/class/net/bond0/bonding/primary
>>> echo eth0>   /sys/class/net/bond0/bonding/active
>>>
>>> 	If the kernel is defined with DEBUG, there are a few pr_debug
>>> calls within write_locks (bond_del_vlan, for example).
>>>
>>> 	If the slave's underlying device driver's ndo_vlan_rx_register
>>> or ndo_vlan_rx_kill_vid functions call printk (and it looks like some do
>>> for error cases, e.g., igbvf, ehea, enic), those would also presumably
>>> deadlock (because bonding holds its write_lock when calling the ndo_
>>> vlan functions).
>>>
>>> 	It also appears that (with the patch below) some nominally
>>> normal usage patterns will immediately disable netconsole.  The one that
>>> comes to mind is if the primary= option is set (to "eth1" for this
>>> example), but that slave not enslaved first (the slaves are added, say,
>>> eth0 then eth1).  In that situation, when the primary slave (eth1 here)
>>> is added, the first thing that will happen is a failover, and that will
>>> disable netconsole.
>>>
>>
>> Thanks for your detailed explanation!
>>
>> This is why I said bonding is complex. I guess we would have to adjust
>> netpoll code for different bonding cases, one solution seems not fix all.
>> I am not sure how much work to do, since I am not familiar with bonding
>> code. Maybe Andy can help?
>>
>
> Sorry I've been silent until now.  This does seem quite similar to a
> problem I've previously encountered when dealing with bonding+netpoll on
> some old 2.6.9-based kernels.  There is no guarantee the methods used
> there will apply here, but I'll talk about them anyway.
>
> As Flavio noticed, recursive calls into the bond transmit routines were
> not a good idea.  I discovered the same and worked around this issue by
> checking to see if we could take the bond->lock for writing before
> continuing.  If we could not get, I wanted to signal that this should be
> queued for transmission later.  Based on the flow of netpoll_send_skb
> (or possibly for another reason that is escaping me right now) I added
> one of these checks in bond_poll_controller too.  These aren't the
> prettiest fixes, but seemed to work well for me when I did this work in
> the past.  I realize the differences are not that great compared to some
> of the patches posted by Flavio, but I think they are worth trying.


Hmm, I still feel like this way is ugly, although it may work.
I guess David doesn't like it either.

Anyway, Flavio, could you try the following patch as well?

Thanks a lot!

>
> diff --git a/drivers/net/bonding/bond_main.c b/drivers/net/bonding/bond_main.c
> index ef60244..d7b9b99 100644
> --- a/drivers/net/bonding/bond_main.c
> +++ b/drivers/net/bonding/bond_main.c
> @@ -1290,6 +1290,12 @@ static bool slaves_support_netpoll(struct net_device *bond_dev)
>   static void bond_poll_controller(struct net_device *bond_dev)
>   {
>   	struct net_device *dev = bond_dev->npinfo->netpoll->real_dev;
> +	struct bonding *bond = netdev_priv(bond_dev);
> +
> +	if (!write_trylock(&bond->lock))
> +		return;
> +	write_unlock(&bond->lock);
> +
>   	if (dev != bond_dev)
>   		netpoll_poll_dev(dev);
>   }
> @@ -4418,7 +4424,11 @@ static void bond_set_xmit_hash_policy(struct bonding *bond)
>
>   static netdev_tx_t bond_start_xmit(struct sk_buff *skb, struct net_device *dev)
>   {
> -	const struct bonding *bond = netdev_priv(dev);
> +	struct bonding *bond = netdev_priv(dev);
> +
> +	if (!write_trylock(&bond->lock))
> +		return NETDEV_TX_BUSY;
> +	write_unlock(&bond->lock);
>
>   	switch (bond->params.mode) {
>   	case BOND_MODE_ROUNDROBIN:
>
> The other key to all of this is to make sure that queuing is done
> correctly now that we expect to queue these frames and have them sent at
> some point when there is a member of the bond that is actually capable
> of sending them out.
>
> The new style of sending queued skbs in a workqueue is much better than
> what was done in the 2.6.9 timeframe, but careful attention should still
> be paid to txq lock and which processor is the owner.  Returning
> something other than NETDEV_TX_OK from bond_start_xmit and checking for
> locks being held there should also help with any deadlocks that show up
> while running in queue_process (though they would not be recursive).
>
> I'm not in a good spot to test this right now, but I can take a look at
> next week and we can try and track down any of the other deadlocks that
> currently exist as I suspect this will not resolve all of the issues.


  reply	other threads:[~2010-06-07  9:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-05-05  8:11 [Bridge] [v5 Patch 1/3] netpoll: add generic support for bridge and bonding devices Amerigo Wang
2010-05-05  8:11 ` Amerigo Wang
2010-05-05  8:11 ` Amerigo Wang
2010-05-05  8:11 ` [Bridge] [v5 Patch 2/3] bridge: make bridge support netpoll Amerigo Wang
2010-05-05  8:11   ` Amerigo Wang
2010-05-05  8:11   ` Amerigo Wang
2010-05-05  8:11 ` [Bridge] [v5 Patch 3/3] bonding: make bonding " Amerigo Wang
2010-05-05  8:11   ` Amerigo Wang
2010-05-05  8:11   ` Amerigo Wang
2010-05-06  2:05 ` [Bridge] [v5 Patch 1/3] netpoll: add generic support for bridge and bonding devices Matt Mackall
2010-05-06  2:05   ` Matt Mackall
2010-05-06  7:44   ` [Bridge] " David Miller
2010-05-06  7:44     ` David Miller
2010-05-07  3:24     ` [Bridge] " Cong Wang
2010-05-07  3:24       ` Cong Wang
2010-05-27 18:05 ` [Bridge] " Flavio Leitner
2010-05-27 18:05   ` Flavio Leitner
2010-05-27 20:35   ` [Bridge] " David Miller
2010-05-27 20:35     ` David Miller
2010-05-27 21:25     ` [Bridge] " Flavio Leitner
2010-05-27 21:25       ` Flavio Leitner
2010-05-28  2:47   ` [Bridge] " Cong Wang
2010-05-28  2:47     ` Cong Wang
2010-05-28 19:40     ` [Bridge] " Flavio Leitner
2010-05-28 19:40       ` Flavio Leitner
2010-05-31  5:56       ` [Bridge] " Cong Wang
2010-05-31  5:56         ` Cong Wang
2010-05-31 19:08         ` [Bridge] " Flavio Leitner
2010-05-31 19:08           ` Flavio Leitner
2010-06-01  9:57           ` [Bridge] " Cong Wang
2010-06-01  9:57             ` Cong Wang
2010-06-01 18:42             ` [Bridge] " Jay Vosburgh
2010-06-01 18:42               ` Jay Vosburgh
2010-06-02 10:04               ` [Bridge] " Cong Wang
2010-06-02 10:04                 ` Cong Wang
2010-06-04 19:18                 ` [Bridge] " Andy Gospodarek
2010-06-04 19:18                   ` Andy Gospodarek
2010-06-07  9:57                   ` Cong Wang [this message]
2010-06-07  9:57                     ` Cong Wang
2010-06-07 10:01                     ` [Bridge] " David Miller
2010-06-07 10:01                       ` David Miller
2010-06-08  8:36                       ` [Bridge] " Cong Wang
2010-06-08  8:36                         ` Cong Wang
2010-06-07 13:03                     ` [Bridge] " Andy Gospodarek
2010-06-07 13:03                       ` Andy Gospodarek
2010-06-08  8:38                       ` [Bridge] " Cong Wang
2010-06-08  8:38                         ` Cong Wang
2010-06-07 19:24               ` [Bridge] [PATCH] netconsole: queue console messages to send later Flavio Leitner
2010-06-07 19:24                 ` Flavio Leitner
2010-06-07 19:50                 ` [Bridge] " Matt Mackall
2010-06-07 19:50                   ` Matt Mackall
2010-06-07 20:00                   ` [Bridge] " Stephen Hemminger
2010-06-07 20:00                     ` Stephen Hemminger
2010-06-07 20:21                     ` [Bridge] " Matt Mackall
2010-06-07 20:21                       ` Matt Mackall
2010-06-07 23:52                       ` [Bridge] " David Miller
2010-06-07 23:52                         ` David Miller
2010-06-07 23:50                 ` [Bridge] " David Miller
2010-06-07 23:50                   ` David Miller
2010-06-08  0:37                   ` [Bridge] " Flavio Leitner
2010-06-08  0:37                     ` Flavio Leitner
2010-06-08  8:59                     ` [Bridge] " Cong Wang
2010-06-08  8:59                       ` Cong Wang
2010-05-28  8:16   ` [Bridge] [v5 Patch 1/3] netpoll: add generic support for bridge and bonding devices Cong Wang
2010-05-28  8:16     ` Cong Wang
2010-05-28 20:42     ` [Bridge] " Flavio Leitner
2010-05-28 20:42       ` Flavio Leitner
2010-05-28 21:03       ` [Bridge] " Jay Vosburgh
2010-05-28 21:03         ` Jay Vosburgh
2010-05-31  5:29         ` [Bridge] " Cong Wang
2010-05-31  5:29           ` Cong Wang
2010-05-31  5:37           ` [Bridge] " Cong Wang
2010-05-31  5:37             ` Cong Wang

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