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From: Clemens Ladisch <clemens@ladisch.de>
To: Jaroslav Kysela <perex@perex.cz>
Cc: Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>,
	alsa-devel@alsa-project.org,
	David Henningsson <david.henningsson@canonical.com>
Subject: Re: alsactl adds volume controls?
Date: Thu, 02 Sep 2010 16:21:03 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4C7FB2CF.5060505@ladisch.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LNX.2.00.1009021553460.10278@eeebox2.perex-int.cz>

Jaroslav Kysela wrote:
> On Thu, 2 Sep 2010, David Henningsson wrote:
> > Interesting. I went looking into the snd_mixer_selem_* documentation (PA
> > uses the simple mixer interface), but I couldn't find a function for
> > determining whether a control is user-defined or not, would you mind
> > pointing me to it? Thanks!
> 
> This logic is bad. We can have user-defined controls for the user space 
> drivers or daemons.
> 
> The additional flag to mixer open functions - as proposed by Takashi - is
> more appropriate in this case when there is a system handling the software
> volume itself. But the question is quite same: How we can distinguish the
> software volume control? I think that some TLV information might do this
> job well.

I think applications should not be required to distinguish software
controls.

The problem is that PA tries to use this control although it is inactive.
The obvious solution is that this control should be marked as inactive,
and that the softvol plugin marks it active only while actually running.

What is the reason for alsactl not trying to restore inactive controls?


Regards,
Clemens

  reply	other threads:[~2010-09-02 14:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-08-27 14:39 alsactl adds volume controls? David Henningsson
2010-08-27 15:43 ` Clemens Ladisch
2010-08-27 18:36   ` David Henningsson
2010-08-27 22:58     ` Raymond Yau
2010-08-30  8:01       ` Takashi Iwai
2010-08-30  9:30         ` Raymond Yau
2010-08-30 11:09           ` Takashi Iwai
2010-08-30 13:01         ` David Henningsson
2010-08-30 13:08           ` Takashi Iwai
2010-09-01 13:26             ` David Henningsson
2010-09-01 14:06               ` Raymond Yau
2010-09-02  8:06               ` Takashi Iwai
2010-09-02  9:24                 ` David Henningsson
2010-09-02  9:44                   ` Takashi Iwai
2010-09-03  7:03                     ` David Henningsson
2010-09-03  7:07                       ` Jaroslav Kysela
2010-10-02  0:51                         ` Raymond Yau
2010-09-03  7:23                       ` Raymond Yau
2010-09-02 14:10                   ` Jaroslav Kysela
2010-09-02 14:21                     ` Clemens Ladisch [this message]
2010-09-02 15:24                       ` Jaroslav Kysela
2010-09-02 15:52                         ` Clemens Ladisch
2010-09-02 17:28                           ` Jaroslav Kysela
2010-09-02 20:28                             ` Sebastian H.
2010-09-29 14:26                             ` Colin Guthrie
2010-09-29 18:09                               ` Mark Brown
2010-09-30  9:17                               ` Raymond Yau
2010-09-30 11:03                               ` Clemens Ladisch
2010-09-30 15:09                                 ` Colin Guthrie
2010-09-30 15:56                                   ` Clemens Ladisch
2010-09-30 16:47                                   ` Mark Brown
2010-09-30 18:09                                     ` Takashi Iwai
2010-09-30 18:20                                       ` Colin Guthrie
2010-09-30 20:36                                       ` Mark Brown
2010-10-01  6:44                                       ` Clemens Ladisch
2010-10-01  8:19                                         ` Colin Guthrie
2010-10-01  9:02                                           ` Clemens Ladisch
2010-10-04 11:35                                             ` Colin Guthrie
2010-10-04 12:26                                               ` Clemens Ladisch
2010-10-04 14:01                                                 ` Takashi Iwai
2010-10-07  8:05                                               ` Clemens Ladisch
2010-10-08 13:21                                                 ` Colin Guthrie
2010-10-08 13:41                                                   ` Clemens Ladisch
2010-10-08 14:05                                                     ` Colin Guthrie
2010-10-08 14:16                                                       ` Colin Guthrie
2010-10-08 14:42                                                         ` Clemens Ladisch
2010-10-08 15:25                                                           ` Colin Guthrie
2010-10-08 15:29                                                             ` Colin Guthrie
2010-10-08 15:49                                                               ` Colin Guthrie
2010-10-12  8:51                                                                 ` Colin Guthrie
2010-10-15  8:32                                                                   ` Clemens Ladisch
2010-10-15  8:32                                                                     ` [PATCH 1/2] ALSA: HDA: Sigmatel: work around incorrect master muting Clemens Ladisch
2010-10-15  8:33                                                                     ` [PATCH 2/2] tlv: fix returned dB information for min-is-mute controls Clemens Ladisch
2010-10-15  8:39                                                                     ` alsactl adds volume controls? Colin Guthrie
2010-10-16 15:49                                                                       ` Colin Guthrie
2010-10-17  8:50                                                                         ` Takashi Iwai
2010-10-17 11:22                                                                           ` Colin Guthrie
2010-10-08 15:49                                                             ` Clemens Ladisch
2010-10-11  1:34                                                               ` Raymond Yau
2010-10-11  8:25                                                                 ` Colin Guthrie
2010-10-12  8:37                                                                   ` Raymond Yau
2010-10-17  3:39                                                       ` Raymond Yau
2010-10-17 11:18                                                         ` Colin Guthrie
2010-10-04 14:18                                           ` Alexander E. Patrakov
2010-10-04 11:09                                         ` Raymond Yau
2010-10-04 11:38                                           ` Colin Guthrie
2010-10-06  0:05                                             ` Raymond Yau
2010-10-06 23:29                                               ` Colin Guthrie
2010-10-01  5:38                                     ` Raymond Yau
2010-10-03  7:37                               ` Raymond Yau
2010-10-23 11:51   ` Raymond Yau
2010-10-23 13:00     ` Colin Guthrie
2010-10-24 11:49       ` Raymond Yau
2010-08-29  1:35 ` Raymond Yau

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