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From: Clemens Ladisch <clemens@ladisch.de>
To: Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>
Cc: alsa-devel@alsa-project.org,
	Mark Brown <broonie@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com>,
	Colin Guthrie <gmane@colin.guthr.ie>
Subject: Re: alsactl adds volume controls?
Date: Fri, 01 Oct 2010 08:44:29 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4CA5834D.5030408@ladisch.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <s5hr5gb9k83.wl%tiwai@suse.de>

Takashi Iwai wrote:
> Mark Brown wrote:
> > On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 04:09:56PM +0100, Colin Guthrie wrote:
> > > *shouldn't* use them, but at present it does and they *are* active and
> > > used, so it's not an issue for me), the problem is rather one of setting
> > > Master (not PCM) to 0% aka -46.5dB causes some kind of auto-mute that
> > > cuts off all sound. It shouldn't do that.
> > 
> > Is this perhaps just an error in the TLV information - should it be
> > flagging that the minimim gain is mute but isn't?
> 
> There is no clear (or consistent) definition in HD-audio codec, I guess.

The HDA spec is quite clear that muting is done only with the mute bit.

> Some chips do mute at 0 and some not.

Those that do are violating the specification.

But we have to support them anyway.
Colin, please tell us the IDs of your codec so that we can add a TLV
workaround to the driver.


Regards,
Clemens

  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-10-01  6:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-08-27 14:39 alsactl adds volume controls? David Henningsson
2010-08-27 15:43 ` Clemens Ladisch
2010-08-27 18:36   ` David Henningsson
2010-08-27 22:58     ` Raymond Yau
2010-08-30  8:01       ` Takashi Iwai
2010-08-30  9:30         ` Raymond Yau
2010-08-30 11:09           ` Takashi Iwai
2010-08-30 13:01         ` David Henningsson
2010-08-30 13:08           ` Takashi Iwai
2010-09-01 13:26             ` David Henningsson
2010-09-01 14:06               ` Raymond Yau
2010-09-02  8:06               ` Takashi Iwai
2010-09-02  9:24                 ` David Henningsson
2010-09-02  9:44                   ` Takashi Iwai
2010-09-03  7:03                     ` David Henningsson
2010-09-03  7:07                       ` Jaroslav Kysela
2010-10-02  0:51                         ` Raymond Yau
2010-09-03  7:23                       ` Raymond Yau
2010-09-02 14:10                   ` Jaroslav Kysela
2010-09-02 14:21                     ` Clemens Ladisch
2010-09-02 15:24                       ` Jaroslav Kysela
2010-09-02 15:52                         ` Clemens Ladisch
2010-09-02 17:28                           ` Jaroslav Kysela
2010-09-02 20:28                             ` Sebastian H.
2010-09-29 14:26                             ` Colin Guthrie
2010-09-29 18:09                               ` Mark Brown
2010-09-30  9:17                               ` Raymond Yau
2010-09-30 11:03                               ` Clemens Ladisch
2010-09-30 15:09                                 ` Colin Guthrie
2010-09-30 15:56                                   ` Clemens Ladisch
2010-09-30 16:47                                   ` Mark Brown
2010-09-30 18:09                                     ` Takashi Iwai
2010-09-30 18:20                                       ` Colin Guthrie
2010-09-30 20:36                                       ` Mark Brown
2010-10-01  6:44                                       ` Clemens Ladisch [this message]
2010-10-01  8:19                                         ` Colin Guthrie
2010-10-01  9:02                                           ` Clemens Ladisch
2010-10-04 11:35                                             ` Colin Guthrie
2010-10-04 12:26                                               ` Clemens Ladisch
2010-10-04 14:01                                                 ` Takashi Iwai
2010-10-07  8:05                                               ` Clemens Ladisch
2010-10-08 13:21                                                 ` Colin Guthrie
2010-10-08 13:41                                                   ` Clemens Ladisch
2010-10-08 14:05                                                     ` Colin Guthrie
2010-10-08 14:16                                                       ` Colin Guthrie
2010-10-08 14:42                                                         ` Clemens Ladisch
2010-10-08 15:25                                                           ` Colin Guthrie
2010-10-08 15:29                                                             ` Colin Guthrie
2010-10-08 15:49                                                               ` Colin Guthrie
2010-10-12  8:51                                                                 ` Colin Guthrie
2010-10-15  8:32                                                                   ` Clemens Ladisch
2010-10-15  8:32                                                                     ` [PATCH 1/2] ALSA: HDA: Sigmatel: work around incorrect master muting Clemens Ladisch
2010-10-15  8:33                                                                     ` [PATCH 2/2] tlv: fix returned dB information for min-is-mute controls Clemens Ladisch
2010-10-15  8:39                                                                     ` alsactl adds volume controls? Colin Guthrie
2010-10-16 15:49                                                                       ` Colin Guthrie
2010-10-17  8:50                                                                         ` Takashi Iwai
2010-10-17 11:22                                                                           ` Colin Guthrie
2010-10-08 15:49                                                             ` Clemens Ladisch
2010-10-11  1:34                                                               ` Raymond Yau
2010-10-11  8:25                                                                 ` Colin Guthrie
2010-10-12  8:37                                                                   ` Raymond Yau
2010-10-17  3:39                                                       ` Raymond Yau
2010-10-17 11:18                                                         ` Colin Guthrie
2010-10-04 14:18                                           ` Alexander E. Patrakov
2010-10-04 11:09                                         ` Raymond Yau
2010-10-04 11:38                                           ` Colin Guthrie
2010-10-06  0:05                                             ` Raymond Yau
2010-10-06 23:29                                               ` Colin Guthrie
2010-10-01  5:38                                     ` Raymond Yau
2010-10-03  7:37                               ` Raymond Yau
2010-10-23 11:51   ` Raymond Yau
2010-10-23 13:00     ` Colin Guthrie
2010-10-24 11:49       ` Raymond Yau
2010-08-29  1:35 ` Raymond Yau

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