From: paulius.zaleckas@gmail.com (Paulius Zaleckas)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH] ARM: Gemini: Add support for PCI BUS
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 20:52:55 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4CF3F687.6040801@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201011291745.22566.arnd@arndb.de>
On 11/29/2010 06:45 PM, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> On Monday 29 November 2010, Paulius Zaleckas wrote:
>>> The I/O ordering is probably not what you think it is.
>>> There is no ordering guarantee between __raw_writel and
>>> spin_lock/spin_unlock, so you really should be using
>>> readl/writel.
>>
>> No he really should NOT use readl/writel. The ONLY difference
>> between readl/writel and __raw_readl/__raw_writel is endianess
>> conversion. __raw_*l is not doing it. Which to use depend only
>> on HW.
>
> There are many differences between readl and __raw_readl, including
>
> * __raw_readl does not have barriers and does not serialize with
> spinlocks, so it breaks on out-of-order CPUs.
> * __raw_readl does not have a specific endianess, while readl is
> fixed little-endian, just as the hardware is in this case.
> The endian-conversion is a NOP on little-endian ARM, but required
> if you actually run on a big-endian ARM (you don't).
> * __raw_readl may not be atomic, gcc is free to split the access
> into byte wise reads (it normally does not, unless you mark
> the pointer __attribute__((packed))).
>
> In essence, it is almost never a good idea to use __raw_readl, and
> the double underscores should tell you so.
You are wrong:
Since CONFIG_ARM_DMA_MEM_BUFFERABLE is NOT defined for FA526 core,
no barriers are in use when using readl. It just translates into
le32_to_cpu(__raw_readl(x)). Now this CPU has physical pin for endianess
configuration and if you will chose big-endian you will fail to read
internal registers, because they ALSO change endianess and le32_to_cpu()
will screw it. However it is different when accessing registers through
PCI bus, then you need to use readl().
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From: Paulius Zaleckas <paulius.zaleckas@gmail.com>
To: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
Cc: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
Hans Ulli Kroll <ulli.kroll@googlemail.com>,
Russell King <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] ARM: Gemini: Add support for PCI BUS
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 20:52:55 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4CF3F687.6040801@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201011291745.22566.arnd@arndb.de>
On 11/29/2010 06:45 PM, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> On Monday 29 November 2010, Paulius Zaleckas wrote:
>>> The I/O ordering is probably not what you think it is.
>>> There is no ordering guarantee between __raw_writel and
>>> spin_lock/spin_unlock, so you really should be using
>>> readl/writel.
>>
>> No he really should NOT use readl/writel. The ONLY difference
>> between readl/writel and __raw_readl/__raw_writel is endianess
>> conversion. __raw_*l is not doing it. Which to use depend only
>> on HW.
>
> There are many differences between readl and __raw_readl, including
>
> * __raw_readl does not have barriers and does not serialize with
> spinlocks, so it breaks on out-of-order CPUs.
> * __raw_readl does not have a specific endianess, while readl is
> fixed little-endian, just as the hardware is in this case.
> The endian-conversion is a NOP on little-endian ARM, but required
> if you actually run on a big-endian ARM (you don't).
> * __raw_readl may not be atomic, gcc is free to split the access
> into byte wise reads (it normally does not, unless you mark
> the pointer __attribute__((packed))).
>
> In essence, it is almost never a good idea to use __raw_readl, and
> the double underscores should tell you so.
You are wrong:
Since CONFIG_ARM_DMA_MEM_BUFFERABLE is NOT defined for FA526 core,
no barriers are in use when using readl. It just translates into
le32_to_cpu(__raw_readl(x)). Now this CPU has physical pin for endianess
configuration and if you will chose big-endian you will fail to read
internal registers, because they ALSO change endianess and le32_to_cpu()
will screw it. However it is different when accessing registers through
PCI bus, then you need to use readl().
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-11-29 18:52 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-11-27 12:24 [PATCH] ARM: Gemini: Add support for PCI BUS Hans Ulli Kroll
2010-11-27 12:24 ` Hans Ulli Kroll
2010-11-28 19:56 ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-11-28 19:56 ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-11-29 12:17 ` Hans Ulli Kroll
2010-11-29 12:17 ` Hans Ulli Kroll
2010-11-29 15:02 ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-11-29 15:02 ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-11-29 16:05 ` Paulius Zaleckas
2010-11-29 16:05 ` Paulius Zaleckas
2010-11-29 16:45 ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-11-29 16:45 ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-11-29 18:52 ` Paulius Zaleckas [this message]
2010-11-29 18:52 ` Paulius Zaleckas
2010-11-29 20:02 ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-11-29 20:02 ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-11-29 20:19 ` Paulius Zaleckas
2010-11-29 20:19 ` Paulius Zaleckas
2010-11-30 8:15 ` Hans Ulli Kroll
2010-11-30 8:15 ` Hans Ulli Kroll
2010-11-30 9:34 ` Paulius Zaleckas
2010-11-30 9:34 ` Paulius Zaleckas
2010-12-01 11:52 ` Hans Ulli Kroll
2010-12-01 11:52 ` Hans Ulli Kroll
2010-12-01 13:08 ` Paulius Zaleckas
2010-12-01 13:08 ` Paulius Zaleckas
2010-12-01 15:02 ` Hans Ulli Kroll
2010-12-01 15:02 ` Hans Ulli Kroll
2010-12-06 10:51 ` Sergei Shtylyov
2010-12-06 10:51 ` Sergei Shtylyov
2010-12-06 12:18 ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-12-06 12:18 ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-11-29 19:32 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-11-29 19:32 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-11-29 19:57 ` Paulius Zaleckas
2010-11-29 19:57 ` Paulius Zaleckas
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2010-11-20 14:27 [PATCH] ARM: Gemini: Add support for PCI Bus Hans Ulli Kroll
2010-11-20 14:27 ` Hans Ulli Kroll
2010-11-20 19:30 ` Paulius Zaleckas
2010-11-20 19:30 ` Paulius Zaleckas
2010-11-26 11:18 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-11-26 11:18 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-11-26 11:57 ` Michał Mirosław
2010-11-26 11:57 ` Michał Mirosław
2010-11-27 12:16 ` Hans Ulli Kroll
2010-11-27 12:16 ` Hans Ulli Kroll
2010-11-27 13:01 ` Michał Mirosław
2010-11-27 13:01 ` Michał Mirosław
2010-11-27 15:39 ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-11-27 15:39 ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-11-29 8:12 ` Hans Ulli Kroll
2010-11-29 8:12 ` Hans Ulli Kroll
2010-11-29 14:22 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-11-29 14:22 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-11-29 14:50 ` Hans Ulli Kroll
2010-11-29 14:50 ` Hans Ulli Kroll
2010-11-29 15:57 ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-11-29 15:57 ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-11-30 15:38 ` Hans Ulli Kroll
2010-11-30 15:38 ` Hans Ulli Kroll
2010-11-30 16:05 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-11-30 16:05 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-11-30 16:19 ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-11-30 16:19 ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-12-01 15:05 ` Hans Ulli Kroll
2010-12-01 15:05 ` Hans Ulli Kroll
2010-11-29 15:50 ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-11-29 15:50 ` Arnd Bergmann
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