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From: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>
To: Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>
Cc: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>, Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>,
	kvm <kvm@vger.kernel.org>, qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] KVM: Windows 64-bit troubles with user space irqchip
Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2011 11:11:23 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4D4A7F4B.6050406@siemens.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110203100407.GA2449@amt.cnet>

On 2011-02-03 11:04, Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 03, 2011 at 10:32:25AM +0100, Jan Kiszka wrote:
>> On 2011-02-03 09:18, Avi Kivity wrote:
>>> On 02/02/2011 05:52 PM, Jan Kiszka wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>  If there is no problem in the logic of this commit (and I do not see
>>>>>  one yet) then we somewhere miss kicking vcpu when interrupt, that should be
>>>>>  handled, arrives?
>>>>
>>>> I'm not yet confident about the logic of the kernel patch: mov to cr8 is
>>>> serializing. If the guest raises the tpr and then signals this with a
>>>> succeeding, non vm-exiting instruction to the other vcpus, one of those
>>>> could inject an interrupt with a higher priority than the previous tpr,
>>>> but a lower one than current tpr. QEMU user space would accept this
>>>> interrupt - and would likely surprise the guest. Do I miss something?
>>>
>>> apic_get_interrupt() is only called from the vcpu thread, so it should 
>>> see a correct tpr.
>>>
>>> The only difference I can see with the patch is that we may issue a 
>>> spurious cpu_interrupt().  But that shouldn't do anything bad, should it?
>>
>> I tested this yesterday, and it doesn't confuse Windows. It actually
>> receives quite a few spurious IRQs in normal operation, w/ or w/o the
>> kernel's tpr optimization.
> 
> http://www.mail-archive.com/kvm@vger.kernel.org/msg41681.html

Don't get the scenario yet: We do not inject (or set isr) over the
context of apic_set_irq caller.

> 
> tpr of a vcpu should always be inspected in vcpu context, instead of 
> iothread context?

Maybe this is true for the in-kernel model, but I don't see the issue
(anymore) for the way user space works.

Jan

-- 
Siemens AG, Corporate Technology, CT T DE IT 1
Corporate Competence Center Embedded Linux

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From: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>
To: Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>
Cc: qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>, Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>,
	Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>, kvm <kvm@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] KVM: Windows 64-bit troubles with user space irqchip
Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2011 11:11:23 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4D4A7F4B.6050406@siemens.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110203100407.GA2449@amt.cnet>

On 2011-02-03 11:04, Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 03, 2011 at 10:32:25AM +0100, Jan Kiszka wrote:
>> On 2011-02-03 09:18, Avi Kivity wrote:
>>> On 02/02/2011 05:52 PM, Jan Kiszka wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>  If there is no problem in the logic of this commit (and I do not see
>>>>>  one yet) then we somewhere miss kicking vcpu when interrupt, that should be
>>>>>  handled, arrives?
>>>>
>>>> I'm not yet confident about the logic of the kernel patch: mov to cr8 is
>>>> serializing. If the guest raises the tpr and then signals this with a
>>>> succeeding, non vm-exiting instruction to the other vcpus, one of those
>>>> could inject an interrupt with a higher priority than the previous tpr,
>>>> but a lower one than current tpr. QEMU user space would accept this
>>>> interrupt - and would likely surprise the guest. Do I miss something?
>>>
>>> apic_get_interrupt() is only called from the vcpu thread, so it should 
>>> see a correct tpr.
>>>
>>> The only difference I can see with the patch is that we may issue a 
>>> spurious cpu_interrupt().  But that shouldn't do anything bad, should it?
>>
>> I tested this yesterday, and it doesn't confuse Windows. It actually
>> receives quite a few spurious IRQs in normal operation, w/ or w/o the
>> kernel's tpr optimization.
> 
> http://www.mail-archive.com/kvm@vger.kernel.org/msg41681.html

Don't get the scenario yet: We do not inject (or set isr) over the
context of apic_set_irq caller.

> 
> tpr of a vcpu should always be inspected in vcpu context, instead of 
> iothread context?

Maybe this is true for the in-kernel model, but I don't see the issue
(anymore) for the way user space works.

Jan

-- 
Siemens AG, Corporate Technology, CT T DE IT 1
Corporate Competence Center Embedded Linux

  reply	other threads:[~2011-02-03 10:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-02-01 18:02 KVM: Windows 64-bit troubles with user space irqchip Jan Kiszka
2011-02-01 18:02 ` [Qemu-devel] " Jan Kiszka
2011-02-02 11:55 ` Gleb Natapov
2011-02-02 11:55   ` Gleb Natapov
2011-02-02 11:58   ` Jan Kiszka
2011-02-02 11:58     ` Jan Kiszka
2011-02-02 12:35     ` Gleb Natapov
2011-02-02 12:35       ` Gleb Natapov
2011-02-02 12:50       ` Jan Kiszka
2011-02-02 12:50         ` Jan Kiszka
2011-02-02 13:05         ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-02 13:05           ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-02 13:09           ` Jan Kiszka
2011-02-02 13:09             ` Jan Kiszka
2011-02-02 13:11             ` Gleb Natapov
2011-02-02 13:14               ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-02 13:14                 ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-02 13:18                 ` Gleb Natapov
2011-02-02 13:18                   ` Gleb Natapov
2011-02-02 14:30           ` Jan Kiszka
2011-02-02 14:30             ` Jan Kiszka
2011-02-02 14:35             ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-02 14:35               ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-02 14:43               ` Jan Kiszka
2011-02-02 14:43                 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-02-02 14:52                 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-02-02 14:52                   ` Jan Kiszka
2011-02-02 15:09                   ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-02 15:09                     ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-02 15:35                     ` Jan Kiszka
2011-02-02 15:35                       ` Jan Kiszka
2011-02-02 15:44                       ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-02 15:44                         ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-02 15:46                       ` Gleb Natapov
2011-02-02 15:52                         ` Jan Kiszka
2011-02-02 16:29                           ` Gleb Natapov
2011-02-02 16:36                             ` Jan Kiszka
2011-02-02 16:39                               ` Gleb Natapov
2011-02-02 16:51                                 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-02-03  7:42                                   ` Gleb Natapov
2011-02-03  9:31                                     ` Jan Kiszka
2011-02-03  8:18                           ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-03  8:18                             ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-03  9:32                             ` Jan Kiszka
2011-02-03  9:32                               ` Jan Kiszka
2011-02-03 10:01                               ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-03 10:01                                 ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-03 10:14                                 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-02-03 10:14                                   ` Jan Kiszka
2011-02-03 10:04                               ` Marcelo Tosatti
2011-02-03 10:04                                 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2011-02-03 10:11                                 ` Jan Kiszka [this message]
2011-02-03 10:11                                   ` Jan Kiszka
2011-02-03 14:15                                   ` Gleb Natapov
2011-02-03 14:27                                     ` Jan Kiszka
2011-02-06 10:26                                     ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-06 10:26                                       ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-06 10:28                                       ` Gleb Natapov
2011-02-06 10:28                                         ` Gleb Natapov

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