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From: Huang Shijie <b32955@freescale.com>
To: "Lothar Waßmann" <LW@KARO-electronics.de>
Cc: linux@arm.linux.org.uk, linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org,
	dwmw2@infradead.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 5/7] add GPMI support for imx28
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 11:03:44 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4D8AB490.30408@freescale.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <19850.2584.566366.251874@ipc1.ka-ro>

Hi Lothar:
>
>>> some general comments:
>>> - Why are you not using the existing nand_ids but inventing your own
>>>     database?
>>>
>> The nand_ids{} contains poor information for me.
>> Such as :
>> [1]The nand_ids does not have the enough information for the page
>> size,oob size for some new NANDs.
>>      And you can not get the information from parsing the NAND ids, such
>> as some Micron NANDs.
>>
> You could use it for the standard chips where you do not need
> additional information. That way most NAND chips could be supported
> out of the box without having to modify the driver.
>
What the meaning of "standard chips"?

There are many nands in the world. Every vendor has its own rules, some 
even does has :)

Unluckily, the imx23/imx28 supports many nands that the nand_ids{} does 
not support.
I have many nands by my hand. I will add it gradually.

I want to get the page size/oob size from my own database which can not 
get from the nand_ids.


>> [2]I need the timing information of the NAND. The nand_ids DOES not have
>> it. I have to
>>      read the datasheet of the NAND, and add it to my database.
>>
> Do we really need exact timing data for each individual chip?
> Or couldn't we live with some sane timing that works for most chips
> and provide some means to specify a different timing via
> platform_data?
>
Most of the time, the timing is really based on a safe timing setting.
But in the original GPMI driver in the FREESCALE BSP, there exits some
nands need to be set with their own timing setting.

So I do not use the safe timing for _ALL_ the nand, and i'd better get 
it from the
database.
>>> - What is the purpose of the 'rom_helpers'? To me it looks like they
>>>     are doing something that should be done in the mtd partition
>>>     handlers, not in the flash chip driver.
>>>
>> We have saled a lot products based the imx23 or imx28.
>> All the products support the nand boot mode by flashing the kernel to
>> the kernel partitions of the nands.
>> In order to compliant to the old product, the layout of the nand is
>> constraint to the current situation:
>> [1] first a boot partition for the kernel.
>> [2] the rest is for other uses, such as rootfs.
>>
>> So I have to use the rom_helpers to split the kernel partition before
>> the real MTD partition initializations.
>>
> Why can't you just create appropriate partitions using the standard
> partition handlers?
>
thanks , I will try to change the code according to your advice.

Huang Shijie

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From: b32955@freescale.com (Huang Shijie)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH 5/7] add GPMI support for imx28
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 11:03:44 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4D8AB490.30408@freescale.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <19850.2584.566366.251874@ipc1.ka-ro>

Hi Lothar:
>
>>> some general comments:
>>> - Why are you not using the existing nand_ids but inventing your own
>>>     database?
>>>
>> The nand_ids{} contains poor information for me.
>> Such as :
>> [1]The nand_ids does not have the enough information for the page
>> size,oob size for some new NANDs.
>>      And you can not get the information from parsing the NAND ids, such
>> as some Micron NANDs.
>>
> You could use it for the standard chips where you do not need
> additional information. That way most NAND chips could be supported
> out of the box without having to modify the driver.
>
What the meaning of "standard chips"?

There are many nands in the world. Every vendor has its own rules, some 
even does has :)

Unluckily, the imx23/imx28 supports many nands that the nand_ids{} does 
not support.
I have many nands by my hand. I will add it gradually.

I want to get the page size/oob size from my own database which can not 
get from the nand_ids.


>> [2]I need the timing information of the NAND. The nand_ids DOES not have
>> it. I have to
>>      read the datasheet of the NAND, and add it to my database.
>>
> Do we really need exact timing data for each individual chip?
> Or couldn't we live with some sane timing that works for most chips
> and provide some means to specify a different timing via
> platform_data?
>
Most of the time, the timing is really based on a safe timing setting.
But in the original GPMI driver in the FREESCALE BSP, there exits some
nands need to be set with their own timing setting.

So I do not use the safe timing for _ALL_ the nand, and i'd better get 
it from the
database.
>>> - What is the purpose of the 'rom_helpers'? To me it looks like they
>>>     are doing something that should be done in the mtd partition
>>>     handlers, not in the flash chip driver.
>>>
>> We have saled a lot products based the imx23 or imx28.
>> All the products support the nand boot mode by flashing the kernel to
>> the kernel partitions of the nands.
>> In order to compliant to the old product, the layout of the nand is
>> constraint to the current situation:
>> [1] first a boot partition for the kernel.
>> [2] the rest is for other uses, such as rootfs.
>>
>> So I have to use the rom_helpers to split the kernel partition before
>> the real MTD partition initializations.
>>
> Why can't you just create appropriate partitions using the standard
> partition handlers?
>
thanks , I will try to change the code according to your advice.

Huang Shijie

  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-03-24  3:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-03-16  1:42 [PATCH 0/7] add the GPMI controller driver for IMX23/IMX28 Huang Shijie
2011-03-16  1:42 ` [PATCH 1/7] ARM: add GPMI support for imx23/imx28 Huang Shijie
2011-03-16 10:13   ` Lothar Waßmann
     [not found]     ` <4D809453.4090603@freescale.com>
     [not found]       ` <19840.43943.592336.854865@ipc1.ka-ro>
2011-03-17  2:19         ` Huang Shijie
2011-03-17  2:19           ` Huang Shijie
2011-03-17 10:36           ` Lothar Waßmann
2011-03-17 10:36             ` Lothar Waßmann
2011-03-18  2:06             ` Huang Shijie
2011-03-18  2:06               ` Huang Shijie
2011-03-16  1:42 ` [PATCH 2/7] add the common code for GPMI driver Huang Shijie
2011-03-22 12:36   ` =?utf-8?Q?Lothar_Wa=C3=9Fmann?=
2011-03-23  3:41     ` Huang Shijie
2011-03-23  3:41       ` Huang Shijie
2011-03-16  1:42 ` [PATCH 3/7] add the database for the NANDs Huang Shijie
2011-03-16  1:42 ` [PATCH 4/7] add GPMI support for imx23 Huang Shijie
2011-03-16  1:42 ` [PATCH 5/7] add GPMI support for imx28 Huang Shijie
2011-03-22 12:46   ` Lothar Waßmann
2011-03-23  3:11     ` Huang Shijie
2011-03-23  3:11       ` Huang Shijie
2011-03-23 14:56       ` Lothar Waßmann
2011-03-23 14:56         ` Lothar Waßmann
2011-03-23 15:16         ` Florian Fainelli
2011-03-23 15:16           ` Florian Fainelli
2011-03-24  3:07           ` Huang Shijie
2011-03-24  3:07             ` Huang Shijie
2011-03-24  3:03         ` Huang Shijie [this message]
2011-03-24  3:03           ` Huang Shijie
2011-03-24  7:34           ` Lothar Waßmann
2011-03-24  7:34             ` Lothar Waßmann
2011-03-24  8:26             ` Jason Liu
2011-03-24  8:26               ` Jason Liu
2011-03-24  8:32               ` Wolfram Sang
2011-03-24  8:32                 ` Wolfram Sang
2011-03-24  8:33               ` Lothar Waßmann
2011-03-24  8:33                 ` Lothar Waßmann
2011-03-24  8:51             ` Huang Shijie
2011-03-24  8:51               ` Huang Shijie
2011-03-24 13:54               ` Florian Fainelli
2011-03-24 13:54                 ` Florian Fainelli
2011-03-25  2:50                 ` Huang Shijie
2011-03-25  2:50                   ` Huang Shijie
2011-03-16  1:42 ` [PATCH 6/7] dmaengine: change the flags of request_irq() Huang Shijie
2011-03-16 10:13   ` Lothar Waßmann
2011-03-16 12:31     ` 答复: " Huang Shijie-B32955
2011-03-18  6:12     ` Huang Shijie
2011-03-16  1:42 ` [PATCH 7/7] MTD : add GPMI driver in the config and Makefile Huang Shijie
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2011-03-16  1:55 [PATCH 0/7] add the GPMI controller driver for IMX23/IMX28 Huang Shijie
2011-03-16  1:55 ` [PATCH 5/7] add GPMI support for imx28 Huang Shijie
2011-03-16  1:55   ` Huang Shijie
2011-03-31  9:47   ` Artem Bityutskiy
2011-03-31  9:47     ` Artem Bityutskiy
2011-03-31 10:09     ` Huang Shijie
2011-03-31 10:09       ` Huang Shijie
2011-03-31  9:49   ` Artem Bityutskiy
2011-03-31  9:49     ` Artem Bityutskiy
2011-03-31  9:49   ` Artem Bityutskiy
2011-03-31  9:49     ` Artem Bityutskiy

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