From: holler@ahsoftware.de (Alexander Holler)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed,aligned(4) instead of removing the packed attribute
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 21:25:40 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4DFA58B4.5030101@ahsoftware.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201106161955.50972.arnd@arndb.de>
Am 16.06.2011 19:55, schrieb Arnd Bergmann:
> On Thursday 16 June 2011, Alan Stern wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, 16 Jun 2011, Alexander Holler wrote:
>>
>>> In commit 139540170d9d9b7ead3caaf540f161756b356d56 the attribute
>>> packed is removed from the structs which are used to access the EHCI-registers.
>>>
>>> This is done to circumvent a problem with gcc 4.6, which might access members of
>>> packed structs on a byte by byte basis. But using packed, aligned(4) fixes that
>>> too and is imho the better solution. Otherwise (without packed) the compiler would be free
>>> to choose whatever alignment he thinks fits best, which might be e.g. 8-byte on 64-bit machines.
>>
>> Is that really true?
>
> No.
>
>> I thought the compiler was not allowed to insert
>> padding if the natural alignment of the data types didn't require any.
>
> It's architecture dependent. The alignment of the structure is the maximum alignment
> of its members, so it gets to be 8 bytes if there is a 64 bit member in the struct
> on most architectures, but 4 bytes on x86.
Hmm, sorry, but that sentence just says something about the alignment of
the structure itself and nothing about the alignment of it's members or
do I understand something wrong?
I've had a look at c99 again, and in addition to the two points in c99 I
mentioned in the mail before (6.7.2.1 13 and 6.7.2.1. 15), I've only
found the following on that topic:
6.7.2.1 12 Each non-bit-?eld member of a structure or union object is
aligned in an implementationde?ned manner appropriate to its type.
And, under "J.1 Unspecified behaviour":
Many aspects of the representations of types (6.2.6).
I even haven't found anything which says something about the alignment
of a structure itself. But I'm no compiler expert and I look only seldom
at c99 and usually try to avoid such aspects as the one we are talking
about. ;)
For me that means that I understand that when packed(,aligned(4)) is
used, it's pretty sure, that there is no padding inbetween the members
of e.g. struct ehci_regs. But without I'm unsure, so I would avoid that.
That aligned(4) is necessary (for ARM) is only a workaround because of
the implementation of readl(), at least that is how I understood the
discussion. But that is discussed elsewhere and don't want to take part
in that discussion (and can't).
Regards,
Alexander
WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Alexander Holler <holler@ahsoftware.de>
To: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
Cc: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
gregkh@suse.de, Rabin Vincent <rabin@rab.in>,
linux-usb@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed,aligned(4) instead of removing the packed attribute
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 21:25:40 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4DFA58B4.5030101@ahsoftware.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201106161955.50972.arnd@arndb.de>
Am 16.06.2011 19:55, schrieb Arnd Bergmann:
> On Thursday 16 June 2011, Alan Stern wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, 16 Jun 2011, Alexander Holler wrote:
>>
>>> In commit 139540170d9d9b7ead3caaf540f161756b356d56 the attribute
>>> packed is removed from the structs which are used to access the EHCI-registers.
>>>
>>> This is done to circumvent a problem with gcc 4.6, which might access members of
>>> packed structs on a byte by byte basis. But using packed, aligned(4) fixes that
>>> too and is imho the better solution. Otherwise (without packed) the compiler would be free
>>> to choose whatever alignment he thinks fits best, which might be e.g. 8-byte on 64-bit machines.
>>
>> Is that really true?
>
> No.
>
>> I thought the compiler was not allowed to insert
>> padding if the natural alignment of the data types didn't require any.
>
> It's architecture dependent. The alignment of the structure is the maximum alignment
> of its members, so it gets to be 8 bytes if there is a 64 bit member in the struct
> on most architectures, but 4 bytes on x86.
Hmm, sorry, but that sentence just says something about the alignment of
the structure itself and nothing about the alignment of it's members or
do I understand something wrong?
I've had a look at c99 again, and in addition to the two points in c99 I
mentioned in the mail before (6.7.2.1 13 and 6.7.2.1. 15), I've only
found the following on that topic:
6.7.2.1 12 Each non-bit-field member of a structure or union object is
aligned in an implementationdefined manner appropriate to its type.
And, under "J.1 Unspecified behaviour":
Many aspects of the representations of types (6.2.6).
I even haven't found anything which says something about the alignment
of a structure itself. But I'm no compiler expert and I look only seldom
at c99 and usually try to avoid such aspects as the one we are talking
about. ;)
For me that means that I understand that when packed(,aligned(4)) is
used, it's pretty sure, that there is no padding inbetween the members
of e.g. struct ehci_regs. But without I'm unsure, so I would avoid that.
That aligned(4) is necessary (for ARM) is only a workaround because of
the implementation of readl(), at least that is how I understood the
discussion. But that is discussed elsewhere and don't want to take part
in that discussion (and can't).
Regards,
Alexander
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-06-16 19:25 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 124+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-04-27 14:34 [PATCH] echi: remove structure packing from ehci_def Rabin Vincent
2011-04-27 14:34 ` Rabin Vincent
2011-04-27 15:15 ` Sergei Shtylyov
2011-04-27 15:15 ` Sergei Shtylyov
2011-04-27 15:37 ` [PATCHv2] " Rabin Vincent
2011-04-27 15:37 ` Rabin Vincent
2011-06-16 16:17 ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed, aligned(4) instead of removing the packed attribute Alexander Holler
2011-06-16 16:17 ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed,aligned(4) " Alexander Holler
2011-06-16 17:09 ` Alan Stern
2011-06-16 17:09 ` Alan Stern
2011-06-16 17:55 ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed, aligned(4) " Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-16 17:55 ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed,aligned(4) " Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-16 19:25 ` Alexander Holler [this message]
2011-06-16 19:25 ` Alexander Holler
2011-06-16 19:46 ` Alan Stern
2011-06-16 19:46 ` Alan Stern
2011-06-16 20:10 ` Alexander Holler
2011-06-16 20:10 ` Alexander Holler
2011-06-16 20:20 ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed, aligned(4) " Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-16 20:20 ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed,aligned(4) " Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-19 15:02 ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed, aligned(4) " Nicolas Pitre
2011-06-19 15:02 ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed,aligned(4) " Nicolas Pitre
2011-06-19 19:00 ` Alan Stern
2011-06-19 19:00 ` Alan Stern
2011-06-19 20:02 ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed, aligned(4) " Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-19 20:02 ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed,aligned(4) " Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-19 20:11 ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed, aligned(4) " Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-19 20:11 ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed,aligned(4) " Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-19 21:39 ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed, aligned(4) " Nicolas Pitre
2011-06-19 21:39 ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed,aligned(4) " Nicolas Pitre
2011-06-19 21:27 ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed, aligned(4) " Nicolas Pitre
2011-06-19 21:27 ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed,aligned(4) " Nicolas Pitre
2011-06-20 15:03 ` Alan Stern
2011-06-20 15:03 ` Alan Stern
2011-06-20 16:16 ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed, aligned(4) " Nicolas Pitre
2011-06-20 16:16 ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed,aligned(4) " Nicolas Pitre
2011-06-20 16:48 ` Alan Stern
2011-06-20 16:48 ` Alan Stern
2011-06-20 16:58 ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed, aligned(4) " Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-20 16:58 ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed,aligned(4) " Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-20 19:02 ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed, aligned(4) " Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-06-20 19:02 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-06-20 19:20 ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-06-20 19:20 ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-06-20 19:29 ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-06-20 19:29 ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-06-20 17:10 ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-06-20 17:10 ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed,aligned(4) " Nicolas Pitre
2011-06-20 17:35 ` Alan Stern
2011-06-20 17:35 ` Alan Stern
2011-06-20 18:48 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-06-20 18:48 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-06-20 20:26 ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed, aligned(4) " Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-20 20:26 ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed,aligned(4) " Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-20 20:50 ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed, aligned(4) " Nicolas Pitre
2011-06-20 20:50 ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-06-20 20:55 ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed,aligned(4) " Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-06-20 20:55 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-06-20 21:23 ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed, aligned(4) " Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-20 21:23 ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed,aligned(4) " Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-20 22:23 ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed, aligned(4) " Nicolas Pitre
2011-06-20 22:23 ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed,aligned(4) " Nicolas Pitre
2011-06-21 11:25 ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed, aligned(4) " Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-21 11:25 ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed,aligned(4) " Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-25 1:25 ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed, aligned(4) " Nicolas Pitre
2011-06-25 8:09 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-28 18:51 ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-06-29 10:56 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-20 19:14 ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-06-20 19:14 ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed,aligned(4) " Nicolas Pitre
2011-06-20 19:32 ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed, aligned(4) " Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-06-20 19:32 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-06-20 20:14 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-20 20:14 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-20 20:42 ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed,aligned(4) " Alan Stern
2011-06-20 20:42 ` Alan Stern
2011-06-20 22:36 ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed, aligned(4) " Nicolas Pitre
2011-06-20 22:36 ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed,aligned(4) " Nicolas Pitre
2011-06-21 15:06 ` Alan Stern
2011-06-21 15:06 ` Alan Stern
2011-06-20 17:39 ` Alexander Holler
2011-06-20 17:39 ` Alexander Holler
2011-06-20 18:39 ` Alan Stern
2011-06-20 18:39 ` Alan Stern
2011-06-20 18:46 ` Alexander Holler
2011-06-20 18:46 ` Alexander Holler
2011-06-20 18:57 ` Alan Stern
2011-06-20 18:57 ` Alan Stern
2011-06-20 19:56 ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed, aligned(4) " Nicolas Pitre
2011-06-20 19:56 ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed,aligned(4) " Nicolas Pitre
2011-06-20 21:04 ` Alan Stern
2011-06-20 21:04 ` Alan Stern
2011-06-20 22:31 ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed, aligned(4) " Nicolas Pitre
2011-06-20 22:31 ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed,aligned(4) " Nicolas Pitre
2011-06-21 14:58 ` Alan Stern
2011-06-21 14:58 ` Alan Stern
2011-06-21 20:41 ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed, aligned(4) " Nicolas Pitre
2011-06-21 20:41 ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed,aligned(4) " Nicolas Pitre
2011-06-22 6:23 ` Alexander Holler
2011-06-22 6:23 ` Alexander Holler
2011-06-20 20:09 ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed, aligned(4) " Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-20 20:09 ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed,aligned(4) " Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-20 21:05 ` Alan Stern
2011-06-20 21:05 ` Alan Stern
2011-06-20 20:07 ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed, aligned(4) " Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-20 20:07 ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed,aligned(4) " Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-20 20:28 ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed, aligned(4) " Nicolas Pitre
2011-06-20 20:28 ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed,aligned(4) " Nicolas Pitre
2011-06-20 20:39 ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed, aligned(4) " Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-20 20:39 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-20 21:03 ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-06-20 21:03 ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-06-23 9:47 ` Alexander Holler
2011-06-23 9:47 ` Alexander Holler
2011-06-23 14:25 ` Alan Stern
2011-06-23 14:25 ` Alan Stern
2011-06-24 11:40 ` Alexander Holler
2011-06-24 11:40 ` Alexander Holler
2011-06-20 16:26 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-20 16:26 ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed,aligned(4) " Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-16 20:30 ` Alan Stern
2011-06-16 20:30 ` Alan Stern
2011-06-16 18:16 ` Alexander Holler
2011-06-16 18:16 ` Alexander Holler
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